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	<title>Comments on: The Love Triangle of FFVII &#8211; An Analysis by Squall_of_SeeD *Updated*</title>
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		<title>By: SilverAi</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilverAi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this was a good read (though there are a few places where lines are repeated)!

However, I&#039;m not convinced that Cloud didn&#039;t love Aerith romantically.  I&#039;m not contesting that he loves Tifa because I think that he loves her as well. 

Honestly I feel like the way Cloud acts and the way that things are portrayed in the game, Case of Tifa and in Advent Children that Aerith is &#039;the one that got away&#039; or more accurately &#039;the one that was prematurely killed&#039;.  

The reason I feel this way is because Cloud and Tifa&#039;s relationship is very ambiguous.  I agree with you that they are in fact in some sort of romantic relationship and that it is somewhat troubled.  The reason it is troubled, in opinion is because of Aerith. I don&#039;t think that guilt alone is what plagued Cloud and I disagree with you that Zack and Aerith play the same role.  I believe that Aerith&#039;s role is emphasized more though that could be because her death seemed more preventable by Cloud than Zack&#039;s did (though I&#039;ll admit I haven&#039;t played Crisis Core).

I&#039;m not sure if Cloud really loved Aerith as much as he loves Tifa but I do think that he did have some romantic attachment to her that made it harder for him to move on from her death.  

Perhaps it was just how soon Aerith died that made Cloud fixate so much.  She died before any sort of relationship could be established.  I don&#039;t think that his feelings for her just went away when she died.  In fact I&#039;m guessing her death probably amplified those feelings because they were mixed with grief and guilt.  

Perhaps if she had lived it would have all fallen apart because well they didn&#039;t really know each other that well anyways  and a lot of Aerith&#039;s attraction could have been because of the resemblances to Zack.

I guess what I mean is, I find it hard to believe that Cloud only felt guilt about Aerith&#039;s death.  I also find it hard to believe that that alone would stall his and Tifa&#039;s relationship so much.  I think there were some left over romantic feelings for Aerith involved even if they weren&#039;t as strong as his feelings for Tifa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this was a good read (though there are a few places where lines are repeated)!</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not convinced that Cloud didn&#8217;t love Aerith romantically.  I&#8217;m not contesting that he loves Tifa because I think that he loves her as well. </p>
<p>Honestly I feel like the way Cloud acts and the way that things are portrayed in the game, Case of Tifa and in Advent Children that Aerith is &#8216;the one that got away&#8217; or more accurately &#8216;the one that was prematurely killed&#8217;.  </p>
<p>The reason I feel this way is because Cloud and Tifa&#8217;s relationship is very ambiguous.  I agree with you that they are in fact in some sort of romantic relationship and that it is somewhat troubled.  The reason it is troubled, in opinion is because of Aerith. I don&#8217;t think that guilt alone is what plagued Cloud and I disagree with you that Zack and Aerith play the same role.  I believe that Aerith&#8217;s role is emphasized more though that could be because her death seemed more preventable by Cloud than Zack&#8217;s did (though I&#8217;ll admit I haven&#8217;t played Crisis Core).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if Cloud really loved Aerith as much as he loves Tifa but I do think that he did have some romantic attachment to her that made it harder for him to move on from her death.  </p>
<p>Perhaps it was just how soon Aerith died that made Cloud fixate so much.  She died before any sort of relationship could be established.  I don&#8217;t think that his feelings for her just went away when she died.  In fact I&#8217;m guessing her death probably amplified those feelings because they were mixed with grief and guilt.  </p>
<p>Perhaps if she had lived it would have all fallen apart because well they didn&#8217;t really know each other that well anyways  and a lot of Aerith&#8217;s attraction could have been because of the resemblances to Zack.</p>
<p>I guess what I mean is, I find it hard to believe that Cloud only felt guilt about Aerith&#8217;s death.  I also find it hard to believe that that alone would stall his and Tifa&#8217;s relationship so much.  I think there were some left over romantic feelings for Aerith involved even if they weren&#8217;t as strong as his feelings for Tifa.</p>
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		<title>By: rhymesmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhymesmatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man i am a Cloti to the bone(although only after reading this 7 page article did i even LEARN that Cloud x Tifa fans are called Clotis and Cloud x Aerith fans are called Cleriths!!!) but this article DID make me realize Aerith&#039;s importance as Cloud&#039;s Love interest..The way i interpret the whole thing is that Cloud Did love Aerith as well as he did love Tifa, but in the end the one he wanted to PURSUE a ROMANTIC relationship with was Tifa...It is also plausible  though that if Aerith hadn&#039;t died then maybe Cloud would end up with her (especially since she was hitting HARD on him throughout the WHOLE game!) But then again if Aerith hadn&#039;t die then we would have been talking about a different kind of game and NOT FFVII. We all loved this game for the way it was presented as a whole so changing something is like changing the game itself ... The Verdict? as the article pretty much said , Cloud had feelings for both of them but the one he really fell for was Tifa all the way ... Now let&#039;s see how this conclusion will seem if FFVII actually makes it for a remake on PS3 or maybe on PS4?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man i am a Cloti to the bone(although only after reading this 7 page article did i even LEARN that Cloud x Tifa fans are called Clotis and Cloud x Aerith fans are called Cleriths!!!) but this article DID make me realize Aerith&#8217;s importance as Cloud&#8217;s Love interest..The way i interpret the whole thing is that Cloud Did love Aerith as well as he did love Tifa, but in the end the one he wanted to PURSUE a ROMANTIC relationship with was Tifa&#8230;It is also plausible  though that if Aerith hadn&#8217;t died then maybe Cloud would end up with her (especially since she was hitting HARD on him throughout the WHOLE game!) But then again if Aerith hadn&#8217;t die then we would have been talking about a different kind of game and NOT FFVII. We all loved this game for the way it was presented as a whole so changing something is like changing the game itself &#8230; The Verdict? as the article pretty much said , Cloud had feelings for both of them but the one he really fell for was Tifa all the way &#8230; Now let&#8217;s see how this conclusion will seem if FFVII actually makes it for a remake on PS3 or maybe on PS4?</p>
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		<title>By: Vendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh so your German translation overrides the Japanese text? And didn&#039;t I see you admit that the German translation of AC wasn&#039;t that good? Is it only good if you think it can be used against C/T?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh so your German translation overrides the Japanese text? And didn&#8217;t I see you admit that the German translation of AC wasn&#8217;t that good? Is it only good if you think it can be used against C/T?</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Lifestream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Lifestream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have put much work into this essay, I&#039;m impressed.
However, your argumentation lacks the persuasiveness. In the middle, you basically said: &quot;Clerith can&#039;t be true because this would contradict our CloTi view we already prove.&quot; Well, I wouldn&#039;t say prove because it&#039;s a somewhat porous evidence... well, that shall not be the matter.

I wanted to point out that you are especially wrong in one point.
You said that Barrets line meaning that Cloud and Tifa &quot;are together&quot; was meant in a romantic way. This is, however, highly wrong, because the sentence was translated differently in the official German version. 
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&quot;Marlene habe ich bei Tifa gelassen. Sie ist ihr gegenüber sehr zutraulich.&quot;
&quot;Und Cloud? Ist er auch bei Tifa?&quot;
&quot;Ja. Tifa hat ein Lokal aufgemacht, genau wie damals. Cloud hat ihr eine Weile dabei geholfen, doch jetzt hat er wohl genug mit seiner eigenen Arbeit zu tun. Er hat einen Lieferservice aufgemacht.&quot;
&quot;Cloud und ein Lieferservice?&quot;
&quot;Ich schätze, Tifa hat ihm Feuer unter dem Hintern gemacht.&quot;
&quot;Verstehe. Ach ja, das sogenannte &#039;Schwache Geschlecht&#039; ist am Ende doch immer stärker.&quot;
___________________________
So, basically, it said that Cloud is living at Tifas bar. Also, the aspect of Cid talking about &quot;women wearing the pants (in a relationship)&quot; is absent completely. Therefore, it is highly obvious that SE didn&#039;t intend the line to be as you wished for.

You might also like to know that Aerith calls Cloud a &quot;Geliebter&quot; in the German version; &quot;Geliebter&quot; is the strongest expression of loving someone romantically - there is no word that would describe greater feelings of love. 
This doesn&#039;t mean anything about Clouds feelings, but I thought you would like to know if it comes to Zerith points. So, the whole discussion if koibito (koi bito) means romantic love or not is not needed anymore, at least not in this case. 
I think it was already discussed that Tifa can also be a sweetheart, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have put much work into this essay, I&#8217;m impressed.<br />
However, your argumentation lacks the persuasiveness. In the middle, you basically said: &#8220;Clerith can&#8217;t be true because this would contradict our CloTi view we already prove.&#8221; Well, I wouldn&#8217;t say prove because it&#8217;s a somewhat porous evidence&#8230; well, that shall not be the matter.</p>
<p>I wanted to point out that you are especially wrong in one point.<br />
You said that Barrets line meaning that Cloud and Tifa &#8220;are together&#8221; was meant in a romantic way. This is, however, highly wrong, because the sentence was translated differently in the official German version.<br />
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&#8220;Marlene habe ich bei Tifa gelassen. Sie ist ihr gegenüber sehr zutraulich.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Und Cloud? Ist er auch bei Tifa?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Ja. Tifa hat ein Lokal aufgemacht, genau wie damals. Cloud hat ihr eine Weile dabei geholfen, doch jetzt hat er wohl genug mit seiner eigenen Arbeit zu tun. Er hat einen Lieferservice aufgemacht.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Cloud und ein Lieferservice?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Ich schätze, Tifa hat ihm Feuer unter dem Hintern gemacht.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Verstehe. Ach ja, das sogenannte &#8216;Schwache Geschlecht&#8217; ist am Ende doch immer stärker.&#8221;<br />
___________________________<br />
So, basically, it said that Cloud is living at Tifas bar. Also, the aspect of Cid talking about &#8220;women wearing the pants (in a relationship)&#8221; is absent completely. Therefore, it is highly obvious that SE didn&#8217;t intend the line to be as you wished for.</p>
<p>You might also like to know that Aerith calls Cloud a &#8220;Geliebter&#8221; in the German version; &#8220;Geliebter&#8221; is the strongest expression of loving someone romantically &#8211; there is no word that would describe greater feelings of love.<br />
This doesn&#8217;t mean anything about Clouds feelings, but I thought you would like to know if it comes to Zerith points. So, the whole discussion if koibito (koi bito) means romantic love or not is not needed anymore, at least not in this case.<br />
I think it was already discussed that Tifa can also be a sweetheart, too.</p>
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		<title>By: The Official Canon Couple of FF7: Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockheart &#171; A Scratch Book of a Melancholic Cancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Official Canon Couple of FF7: Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockheart &#171; A Scratch Book of a Melancholic Cancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SuperAnonymous777</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperAnonymous777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would help SoS more if you&#039;re to point out the points he got wrong. But then, I don&#039;t think this article has been properly beta&#039;ed since I also spot some repetitions and isn&#039;t up to date with some of the latest materials that has something to do with the LTD. You should read SoS&#039;s GameFAQ article then. It&#039;s more organized and complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would help SoS more if you&#8217;re to point out the points he got wrong. But then, I don&#8217;t think this article has been properly beta&#8217;ed since I also spot some repetitions and isn&#8217;t up to date with some of the latest materials that has something to do with the LTD. You should read SoS&#8217;s GameFAQ article then. It&#8217;s more organized and complete.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperAnonymous777</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperAnonymous777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one good analysis. This is probably the most logical and the least biased (if you can even consider this bias) essay/analysis I&#039;ve read tackling the topic of the LTD.

Kudos to you, SoS. You&#039;ve again made another great FAQ for the FFVII fandom. Just to let you know, I&#039;ve already known you and has been following your essays way back at your active GameFAQ days. Not that you know me. But don&#039;t worry, lad... I&#039;m not an internet stalker. I just happen to appreciate your essays. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one good analysis. This is probably the most logical and the least biased (if you can even consider this bias) essay/analysis I&#8217;ve read tackling the topic of the LTD.</p>
<p>Kudos to you, SoS. You&#8217;ve again made another great FAQ for the FFVII fandom. Just to let you know, I&#8217;ve already known you and has been following your essays way back at your active GameFAQ days. Not that you know me. But don&#8217;t worry, lad&#8230; I&#8217;m not an internet stalker. I just happen to appreciate your essays. <img src='http://thelifestream.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Heroine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heroine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 03:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/index.php?showtopic=9686

^^ I don&#039;t know why you posted this link, but it&#039;s full of BS. They merely give empty rebuttal and no reliable arguments or facts. Please. It doesn&#039;t count.


SoS, thanks so much for the insights. You might be a CloTi, but this article gives enough perspectives and explanation for the fact that Cloud is Indeed with Tifa.

Would you please add some details from Dissidia 012? Now that it&#039;s already out there and provides some more events of Cloud and Tifa.

Thank you. You rock, SoS! XD</description>
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<p>^^ I don&#8217;t know why you posted this link, but it&#8217;s full of BS. They merely give empty rebuttal and no reliable arguments or facts. Please. It doesn&#8217;t count.</p>
<p>SoS, thanks so much for the insights. You might be a CloTi, but this article gives enough perspectives and explanation for the fact that Cloud is Indeed with Tifa.</p>
<p>Would you please add some details from Dissidia 012? Now that it&#8217;s already out there and provides some more events of Cloud and Tifa.</p>
<p>Thank you. You rock, SoS! XD</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 02:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Cloud should just stick with Tifa and Zack and Aerith FOREVER. FOREVER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Cloud should just stick with Tifa and Zack and Aerith FOREVER. FOREVER!</p>
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		<title>By: SHUTTHEFUCKUP</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHUTTHEFUCKUP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to me the whole LTD is like a soap-opera (an amusing one at that)

oh and btw nice analysis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to me the whole LTD is like a soap-opera (an amusing one at that)</p>
<p>oh and btw nice analysis</p>
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		<title>By: Vendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they don&#039;t have &quot;good&quot; arguments. This was SoS being very generous.</description>
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		<title>By: Wingheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wingheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Squall listing up &quot;Clerith evidence&quot; finally convinced me that the Clerith side has indeed got good arguments. 
I wonder if Cloud loved both women, Tifa and Aerith.
He seems to show so much affection towards her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Squall listing up &#8220;Clerith evidence&#8221; finally convinced me that the Clerith side has indeed got good arguments.<br />
I wonder if Cloud loved both women, Tifa and Aerith.<br />
He seems to show so much affection towards her.</p>
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