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		<title>By: Bonbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W00t! I always knew Cloud and Tifa were definitely the canon couple, but I never would&#039;ve thought that far. lol and begins a new daydream about Cloti...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W00t! I always knew Cloud and Tifa were definitely the canon couple, but I never would&#8217;ve thought that far. lol and begins a new daydream about Cloti&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- &quot;I think the evidence presented here (or anywhere for that matter) is way not enough to deem any couple “canon”. For this there needs to be either kissing, extensive hugging, hand-holding or explicit statement of feelings&quot;


Ignoring the utterly arbitrary nature of this statement (and the blatant goalpost shifting we have seen countless times). I wonder how many couples that have shown up in FF games (not just the main ones) this would apply to? 

My guess would be &quot;not many&quot;. 

Also.

- &quot;which none of is given throughout the entire world of FF7 including KH, dissidia, itahki, etc. Only hints and little quirks that suggest one way or the other are given and I think this is done on purpose. a HUGE amount of FF7-fanism is ONLY due to this “Love-triangle” and the creators know this.&quot; 


Giving credence to things like KH and ISS when talking about the story and massively inflating the importance/popularity of the &quot;who Cloud loves&quot; aspect are both hallmarks of a certain segment of the fandom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- &#8220;I think the evidence presented here (or anywhere for that matter) is way not enough to deem any couple “canon”. For this there needs to be either kissing, extensive hugging, hand-holding or explicit statement of feelings&#8221;</p>
<p>Ignoring the utterly arbitrary nature of this statement (and the blatant goalpost shifting we have seen countless times). I wonder how many couples that have shown up in FF games (not just the main ones) this would apply to? </p>
<p>My guess would be &#8220;not many&#8221;. </p>
<p>Also.</p>
<p>- &#8220;which none of is given throughout the entire world of FF7 including KH, dissidia, itahki, etc. Only hints and little quirks that suggest one way or the other are given and I think this is done on purpose. a HUGE amount of FF7-fanism is ONLY due to this “Love-triangle” and the creators know this.&#8221; </p>
<p>Giving credence to things like KH and ISS when talking about the story and massively inflating the importance/popularity of the &#8220;who Cloud loves&#8221; aspect are both hallmarks of a certain segment of the fandom.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FINALLY. I&#039;ve been waiting for this day to come! I&#039;m so tired of Clerith fans telling people that Cloud and Aerith were the canon couple of FFVII. I&#039;m not saying they didn&#039;t share anything special, but that they were merely really good friends. There were so many instances that hinted a relationship between Cloud and Tifa. Especially during the Lifestream and Highwind sequences. 1. Tifa got on a whole new level with Cloud when they were in the Lifestream. Tifa is single-handedly the #1 person that knows who Cloud really is (CLOUD isn&#039;t even #1!!). She helped him piece back his memories and his real personality. I think that says something. 2. They had sex during the Highwind scene. I don&#039;t know why Aerith fans try to rebuke this. The creators even said that they were originally going to make the scene more risque, but TONED it down. They didn&#039;t mean get rid of it altogether, but to make it a little more subtle for the little kiddies. This is just in the OG game. But when you go to other games like Crisis Core or Kingdom Hearts, you&#039;ll see something more between Cloud and Tifa. Like in KH2, Tifa was Cloud&#039;s light. He kept running away from Tifa because she was the light. When she finally caught up with him, he finally received the light--which only happened because Tifa was around. Also In the case files (Tifa&#039;s case: On the way to a smile), it talks solely about Tifa&#039;s new life with Cloud--her family. AND NOW. They have been officially named the canon couple. They were even grouped together with other couples like Squall and Rinoa, Garnet and Zidane, and Tidus and Yuna. THAT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING. If Clerith fans find an excuse for this one, I wouldn&#039;t even know what to freaking say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY. I&#8217;ve been waiting for this day to come! I&#8217;m so tired of Clerith fans telling people that Cloud and Aerith were the canon couple of FFVII. I&#8217;m not saying they didn&#8217;t share anything special, but that they were merely really good friends. There were so many instances that hinted a relationship between Cloud and Tifa. Especially during the Lifestream and Highwind sequences. 1. Tifa got on a whole new level with Cloud when they were in the Lifestream. Tifa is single-handedly the #1 person that knows who Cloud really is (CLOUD isn&#8217;t even #1!!). She helped him piece back his memories and his real personality. I think that says something. 2. They had sex during the Highwind scene. I don&#8217;t know why Aerith fans try to rebuke this. The creators even said that they were originally going to make the scene more risque, but TONED it down. They didn&#8217;t mean get rid of it altogether, but to make it a little more subtle for the little kiddies. This is just in the OG game. But when you go to other games like Crisis Core or Kingdom Hearts, you&#8217;ll see something more between Cloud and Tifa. Like in KH2, Tifa was Cloud&#8217;s light. He kept running away from Tifa because she was the light. When she finally caught up with him, he finally received the light&#8211;which only happened because Tifa was around. Also In the case files (Tifa&#8217;s case: On the way to a smile), it talks solely about Tifa&#8217;s new life with Cloud&#8211;her family. AND NOW. They have been officially named the canon couple. They were even grouped together with other couples like Squall and Rinoa, Garnet and Zidane, and Tidus and Yuna. THAT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING. If Clerith fans find an excuse for this one, I wouldn&#8217;t even know what to freaking say.</p>
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		<title>By: MalicousMisery</title>
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		<dc:creator>MalicousMisery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear noob. If only it was this easy, we would&#039;ve just all been friends a looong time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear noob. If only it was this easy, we would&#8217;ve just all been friends a looong time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. I just recently played trough FF7 and was hooked. I even watched, read and played everything there is to it, except BeforeCrisis due to me not being able to get my hands on a japanese phone. I read the summaries thou. I read a lot about this love-triangle as well Anyways...I think the evidence presented here (or anywhere for that matter) is way not enough to deem any couple &quot;canon&quot;. For this there needs to be either kissing, extensive hugging, hand-holding or explicit statement of feelings, which none of is given throughout the entire world of FF7 including KH, dissidia, itahki, etc. Only hints and little quirks that suggest one way or the other are given and I think this is done on purpose. a HUGE amount of FF7-fanism is ONLY due to this &quot;Love-triangle&quot; and the creators know this. So they will never explicitly declare one couple or the other canon, for they would lose half their fanbase for FF7 either way. Anyways we all know there WILL be a countinuation to the FF7-Universe and I will bet my clean, soft arse that Square will do the only right thing and let be player decide the couple. So until then just relax :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. I just recently played trough FF7 and was hooked. I even watched, read and played everything there is to it, except BeforeCrisis due to me not being able to get my hands on a japanese phone. I read the summaries thou. I read a lot about this love-triangle as well Anyways&#8230;I think the evidence presented here (or anywhere for that matter) is way not enough to deem any couple &#8220;canon&#8221;. For this there needs to be either kissing, extensive hugging, hand-holding or explicit statement of feelings, which none of is given throughout the entire world of FF7 including KH, dissidia, itahki, etc. Only hints and little quirks that suggest one way or the other are given and I think this is done on purpose. a HUGE amount of FF7-fanism is ONLY due to this &#8220;Love-triangle&#8221; and the creators know this. So they will never explicitly declare one couple or the other canon, for they would lose half their fanbase for FF7 either way. Anyways we all know there WILL be a countinuation to the FF7-Universe and I will bet my clean, soft arse that Square will do the only right thing and let be player decide the couple. So until then just relax <img src='http://thelifestream.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IDK why but I just knew from the start that it was CloTi. 
Cloud&#039;s shy so if he can openly show his affections for Aerith, means he don&#039;t like her. But, when he&#039;s with Tifa, he&#039;s quite so very shy. So that&#039;s whyyy :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDK why but I just knew from the start that it was CloTi.<br />
Cloud&#8217;s shy so if he can openly show his affections for Aerith, means he don&#8217;t like her. But, when he&#8217;s with Tifa, he&#8217;s quite so very shy. So that&#8217;s whyyy <img src='http://thelifestream.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zuruzuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuruzuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the other &quot;loveteam&quot; will make another story to this! oh c&#039;mon, accept the fact , CLOTI is canon. believe or not! tifa is way hotter and more gorgeous than the other girl(she&#039;s boring)! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the other &#8220;loveteam&#8221; will make another story to this! oh c&#8217;mon, accept the fact , CLOTI is canon. believe or not! tifa is way hotter and more gorgeous than the other girl(she&#8217;s boring)! <img src='http://thelifestream.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rhymesmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhymesmatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really AM wondering where the cleriths are!I mean c&#039;mon i was expecting some new theories EVEN after that to have some material to laugh about!hahaha

Ok srsly sorry for being mean to Cleriths . But i am certain that you can finally let sweet Aerith rest in piece with her first and true love Zack and leave our love birds Tifa and cloudie alone!I do love Aerith as a char but is just that i love Tifa even more...So yea!Cheers Ryu!!!!

oh btw i am A Cloti! Maybe that wasn&#039;t clear enough :P:P:P:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really AM wondering where the cleriths are!I mean c&#8217;mon i was expecting some new theories EVEN after that to have some material to laugh about!hahaha</p>
<p>Ok srsly sorry for being mean to Cleriths . But i am certain that you can finally let sweet Aerith rest in piece with her first and true love Zack and leave our love birds Tifa and cloudie alone!I do love Aerith as a char but is just that i love Tifa even more&#8230;So yea!Cheers Ryu!!!!</p>
<p>oh btw i am A Cloti! Maybe that wasn&#8217;t clear enough <img src='http://thelifestream.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> :P:P:P</p>
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		<title>By: hwah</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why anyone bothered thinking Aerith and Cloud were an item, Aerith just liked the aspects of Zack that she saw in Cloud. So... yeah. They can go have post-death angel sex in the lifstream lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why anyone bothered thinking Aerith and Cloud were an item, Aerith just liked the aspects of Zack that she saw in Cloud. So&#8230; yeah. They can go have post-death angel sex in the lifstream lol</p>
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		<title>By: prshr</title>
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		<dc:creator>prshr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Cloud Tifa fan but.. I think the translation of the scene Under the Highwind is INCORRECT. It is not &#039;WITHOUT USING WORDS&#039; but &#039;FEELINGS WHICH WORDS CAN NOT EXPRESS.&#039;

On the other hand, it does not completely brush away the idea that they sort of had sex during that scene. Because in Japan, they do not use the word SEX but use other ways of saying it. If the FEELING that Cloud and Tifa have is LOVE or 愛 (ai) sometimes 恋 (koi) in Japanese and one should notice that Square used the term 確かめ合う in the picture, mixing the two words, we would come up with the expression 愛を確かめ合う (ai wo tashikameau) which means &#039;make love&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Cloud Tifa fan but.. I think the translation of the scene Under the Highwind is INCORRECT. It is not &#8216;WITHOUT USING WORDS&#8217; but &#8216;FEELINGS WHICH WORDS CAN NOT EXPRESS.&#8217;</p>
<p>On the other hand, it does not completely brush away the idea that they sort of had sex during that scene. Because in Japan, they do not use the word SEX but use other ways of saying it. If the FEELING that Cloud and Tifa have is LOVE or 愛 (ai) sometimes 恋 (koi) in Japanese and one should notice that Square used the term 確かめ合う in the picture, mixing the two words, we would come up with the expression 愛を確かめ合う (ai wo tashikameau) which means &#8216;make love&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ClerithRaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClerithRaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We continue it at the LTD thread found on the forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We continue it at the LTD thread found on the forums.</p>
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		<title>By: fucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>fucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also I wonder if people here have life other then arguing over a fictional love triangle...just asking cause from reading all these comments I smell so such much butthurt fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also I wonder if people here have life other then arguing over a fictional love triangle&#8230;just asking cause from reading all these comments I smell so such much butthurt fans.</p>
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