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	<title>Comments on: This just in: The Love Triangle Debate- over.</title>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and you dont need to be so rude with your comments, ok? :) but i understand what you mean about the cloti part. i reread what i said and it was badly put. so how do i put this in simple terms... both cloti and clerith fans are die-hard psycho with the love triangle debate. but this ultimania thing was in favor of cloudxtifa and clerith fans won&#039;t accept the truth. but i&#039;m a wee bit understanding with clerith fans&#039; ignorance because i know if things were in favor of cloudxaerith, cloti fans would act just like clerith fans right now. yes? also i was not trying to make a bold statement. i was simply saying that i will not care about what anyone else says about the LTD, since square enix already announced what was canon. huzzah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you dont need to be so rude with your comments, ok? <img src='http://thelifestream.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but i understand what you mean about the cloti part. i reread what i said and it was badly put. so how do i put this in simple terms&#8230; both cloti and clerith fans are die-hard psycho with the love triangle debate. but this ultimania thing was in favor of cloudxtifa and clerith fans won&#8217;t accept the truth. but i&#8217;m a wee bit understanding with clerith fans&#8217; ignorance because i know if things were in favor of cloudxaerith, cloti fans would act just like clerith fans right now. yes? also i was not trying to make a bold statement. i was simply saying that i will not care about what anyone else says about the LTD, since square enix already announced what was canon. huzzah!</p>
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		<title>By: Vendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not making a bold statement. Most people get it. So no need to be so melodramatic about it. 

Although I do find it funny that you lump in &quot;cloti&quot; with the small segment of the fandom who doesn&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not making a bold statement. Most people get it. So no need to be so melodramatic about it. </p>
<p>Although I do find it funny that you lump in &#8220;cloti&#8221; with the small segment of the fandom who doesn&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just got an email notification saying that someone replied to my eariler comment... but i cant find it so well. anyways, after reading so many comments on this website, ive learned that no matter what is said on compilations or sequels or ultimanias, clerith and cloti shippers are so die-hard that they&#039;ve come to the point where no evidence or statements from square-enix themselves will faze them. so here it is, if square-enix said that cloud and tifa confirmed their feelings for each other under the highwind scene, and the headliner of that picture was &quot;for the one i love&quot; that is what i am going to go with. cloud and tifa like each other and thats it. i dont care who replies, to this comment, whether its someone supporting me or starts spewing stuff about clerith, i dont care. thats what the ultimania said and it is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just got an email notification saying that someone replied to my eariler comment&#8230; but i cant find it so well. anyways, after reading so many comments on this website, ive learned that no matter what is said on compilations or sequels or ultimanias, clerith and cloti shippers are so die-hard that they&#8217;ve come to the point where no evidence or statements from square-enix themselves will faze them. so here it is, if square-enix said that cloud and tifa confirmed their feelings for each other under the highwind scene, and the headliner of that picture was &#8220;for the one i love&#8221; that is what i am going to go with. cloud and tifa like each other and thats it. i dont care who replies, to this comment, whether its someone supporting me or starts spewing stuff about clerith, i dont care. thats what the ultimania said and it is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Vendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And GreyGardens chimes in with the usual nonsense.</description>
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		<title>By: BlankBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlankBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 06:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t prove anything. Obviously Cloud had feelings for Tifa...but if Aerith had not died, the Highwind scene would have probably never happened. Also, since when does sex equal love? 

Even after Aerith dies, Cloud sought the Promise Land so he could reunite with her. At the end of the game Cloud exclaims: “…I think I’m beginning to understand. An answer from the planet…the Promised Land… I think I can meet her… there…” — anyone who doesn’t think Cloud is referring to Aerith is either an idiot or being completely disingenuous. Furthermore, this quest for the Promise Land and search for Aerith is also included in numerous material Squaresoft has released since Final Fantasy VII.

Furthermore, Cloud thought it was Aerith reaching for him during the end of the game. It was ultimately Tifa who was reaching for Cloud, but his heart wanted it to be Aerith. And although Cloud ultimately ends up with Tifa in many respects, it is only because Aerith was taken from us by Sephiroth. Even in Advent Children, Cloud is shown to be distant and cold towards Tifa while living in Aerith’s Church! If how he acts towards Tifa and where he’s living doesn’t tell you where his true feelings lie, I don’t know what does. 

In all my years of being a fan of Final Fantasy VII, I never realized the polarizing nature surrounding the debate about who Cloud loves more — Tifa or Aerith.

What’s clear to me is that Squaresoft wanted Aerith to be the heroine of Final Fantasy VII from the very beginning. The opening scene of the game revolves around Aerith, with the “Loveless” sign appearing above her. The juxtaposition of Aerith walking the streets of Midgar, with Cloud simultaneously jumping from the train, sets these two up as the primary characters and love interest of Final Fantasy VII.

The creators of Final Fantasy VII have stated that Aerith, Barret and Cloud were the original three characters created for the game. This confirms, to me anyway, that Squaresoft always intended Aerith to be the central female character and love interest for Cloud. Just look at the original and official artwork Squaresoft produced. It’s all of Cloud and Aerith together! So the bottom line is this: virtually every Final Fantasy game has official artwork of the two intended love interests. Final Final VII’s original artwork shows Cloud and Aerith. ‘Nuff said.

Given the importance of Aerith during the opening scene, and the fact that Aerith was one of the three original characters, points to the theory that Cloud and Aerith were meant to be together from the start. Sadly, I’ve discovered on numerous forums that the majority of Final Fantasy VII fans prefer the pairing of Cloud and Tifa. This has led me to a state of shock and bewilderment. What seems so obvious to me —the pairing of Cloud and Aerith— is not what the majority of fans see.

From beginning to end, I always felt Cloud and Aerith were meant to be together. Cloud chose to be Aerith’s bodyguard with the promise of one date. When Tifa asked Cloud to join AVALANCE, he only did so when Barret promised him a large sum of money. See the difference?

And while Cloud was growing up, him and Tifa were childhood acquaintances, not friends or lovers. Tifa ignored Cloud when they were kids, and they only had one conversation together — a conversation Cloud doesn’t remember. During this conversation, Cloud makes a friendly promise to Tifa, a promise Tifa begged Cloud to make. Hardly a childhood romance.

The facts are, Cloud only laughed and cried for one character — Aerith. This suggests his emotional connection to Aerith was deeper than his emotional connection to Tifa. When Aerith dies Cloud exclaims: “My fingers are tingling. My mouth is dry. My eyes are burning!” 

The fact remains, Aerith is the only character Cloud comes close to revealing his true feelings for. In Cosmo Canyon Cloud says, “But, I’m —I mean— we’re here for you, right?”…The reason Cloud comes close to revealing his true feelings for Aerith is because of the wonderful chemistry and love the two have together.

Those that say Aerith was meant for Zack are also mistaken. Aerith states that she recognizes Cloud is different than Zack, saying to Cloud, “But you’re different. Things are different…” — Aerith loved Cloud for who he was and recognized that the past was the past. Aerith also states in the game that she wasn’t in a serious relationship with Zack, and that he was a ladies man who had probably moved on. In addition, during Aerith and Cloud’s Golden Saucer date, Aerith claims that she wants to get to know the ‘real’ Cloud.

And finally, the official commercial approved and released by Squaresoft states: “A love that could never be…” — obviously referring to Cloud and Aerith. Cloti supporters can dispute this all they want, but the official commercial approved by Squaresoft includes the word “Love” during the scene when Cloud holds Aerith in his arms. I need no more proof than that. But if all this still doesn’t convince you, just go look at the official artwork.

I’ll end this with…

Cait Sith:
“Looks good. You are perfect for each other!”
“Aerith’s star and Cloud’s star! They show a great future!”

—You can claim Cait Sith isn’t always accurate with his predictions, but this was obviously an attempt by Squaresoft to further illustrate that Cloud and Aerith were meant to be together—

Cait Sith: “Poor Tifa!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t prove anything. Obviously Cloud had feelings for Tifa&#8230;but if Aerith had not died, the Highwind scene would have probably never happened. Also, since when does sex equal love? </p>
<p>Even after Aerith dies, Cloud sought the Promise Land so he could reunite with her. At the end of the game Cloud exclaims: “…I think I’m beginning to understand. An answer from the planet…the Promised Land… I think I can meet her… there…” — anyone who doesn’t think Cloud is referring to Aerith is either an idiot or being completely disingenuous. Furthermore, this quest for the Promise Land and search for Aerith is also included in numerous material Squaresoft has released since Final Fantasy VII.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Cloud thought it was Aerith reaching for him during the end of the game. It was ultimately Tifa who was reaching for Cloud, but his heart wanted it to be Aerith. And although Cloud ultimately ends up with Tifa in many respects, it is only because Aerith was taken from us by Sephiroth. Even in Advent Children, Cloud is shown to be distant and cold towards Tifa while living in Aerith’s Church! If how he acts towards Tifa and where he’s living doesn’t tell you where his true feelings lie, I don’t know what does. </p>
<p>In all my years of being a fan of Final Fantasy VII, I never realized the polarizing nature surrounding the debate about who Cloud loves more — Tifa or Aerith.</p>
<p>What’s clear to me is that Squaresoft wanted Aerith to be the heroine of Final Fantasy VII from the very beginning. The opening scene of the game revolves around Aerith, with the “Loveless” sign appearing above her. The juxtaposition of Aerith walking the streets of Midgar, with Cloud simultaneously jumping from the train, sets these two up as the primary characters and love interest of Final Fantasy VII.</p>
<p>The creators of Final Fantasy VII have stated that Aerith, Barret and Cloud were the original three characters created for the game. This confirms, to me anyway, that Squaresoft always intended Aerith to be the central female character and love interest for Cloud. Just look at the original and official artwork Squaresoft produced. It’s all of Cloud and Aerith together! So the bottom line is this: virtually every Final Fantasy game has official artwork of the two intended love interests. Final Final VII’s original artwork shows Cloud and Aerith. ‘Nuff said.</p>
<p>Given the importance of Aerith during the opening scene, and the fact that Aerith was one of the three original characters, points to the theory that Cloud and Aerith were meant to be together from the start. Sadly, I’ve discovered on numerous forums that the majority of Final Fantasy VII fans prefer the pairing of Cloud and Tifa. This has led me to a state of shock and bewilderment. What seems so obvious to me —the pairing of Cloud and Aerith— is not what the majority of fans see.</p>
<p>From beginning to end, I always felt Cloud and Aerith were meant to be together. Cloud chose to be Aerith’s bodyguard with the promise of one date. When Tifa asked Cloud to join AVALANCE, he only did so when Barret promised him a large sum of money. See the difference?</p>
<p>And while Cloud was growing up, him and Tifa were childhood acquaintances, not friends or lovers. Tifa ignored Cloud when they were kids, and they only had one conversation together — a conversation Cloud doesn’t remember. During this conversation, Cloud makes a friendly promise to Tifa, a promise Tifa begged Cloud to make. Hardly a childhood romance.</p>
<p>The facts are, Cloud only laughed and cried for one character — Aerith. This suggests his emotional connection to Aerith was deeper than his emotional connection to Tifa. When Aerith dies Cloud exclaims: “My fingers are tingling. My mouth is dry. My eyes are burning!” </p>
<p>The fact remains, Aerith is the only character Cloud comes close to revealing his true feelings for. In Cosmo Canyon Cloud says, “But, I’m —I mean— we’re here for you, right?”…The reason Cloud comes close to revealing his true feelings for Aerith is because of the wonderful chemistry and love the two have together.</p>
<p>Those that say Aerith was meant for Zack are also mistaken. Aerith states that she recognizes Cloud is different than Zack, saying to Cloud, “But you’re different. Things are different…” — Aerith loved Cloud for who he was and recognized that the past was the past. Aerith also states in the game that she wasn’t in a serious relationship with Zack, and that he was a ladies man who had probably moved on. In addition, during Aerith and Cloud’s Golden Saucer date, Aerith claims that she wants to get to know the ‘real’ Cloud.</p>
<p>And finally, the official commercial approved and released by Squaresoft states: “A love that could never be…” — obviously referring to Cloud and Aerith. Cloti supporters can dispute this all they want, but the official commercial approved by Squaresoft includes the word “Love” during the scene when Cloud holds Aerith in his arms. I need no more proof than that. But if all this still doesn’t convince you, just go look at the official artwork.</p>
<p>I’ll end this with…</p>
<p>Cait Sith:<br />
“Looks good. You are perfect for each other!”<br />
“Aerith’s star and Cloud’s star! They show a great future!”</p>
<p>—You can claim Cait Sith isn’t always accurate with his predictions, but this was obviously an attempt by Squaresoft to further illustrate that Cloud and Aerith were meant to be together—</p>
<p>Cait Sith: “Poor Tifa!”</p>
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		<title>By: Vendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s both hilarious and sad at the same time.</description>
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		<title>By: Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, yet there&#039;s still this place that remains completely convinced that Cloud/Aerith is canon.

http://cloudxaerith.deviantart.com/

It&#039;s like talking to a brick wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, yet there&#8217;s still this place that remains completely convinced that Cloud/Aerith is canon.</p>
<p><a href="http://cloudxaerith.deviantart.com/" rel="nofollow">http://cloudxaerith.deviantart.com/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s like talking to a brick wall.</p>
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		<title>By: A Perfect Image of Stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Perfect Image of Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This amuses me.

As a FFVII fangirl (GIRL!) who likes Cloud, Tifa and Aerith but doesn&#039;t go mad shipping them with anybody, I can say I was/am safely neutral. And, in my neutral position, watching the two factions in battle was/is absolutely hilarious at times.

Yet, even with this confirmation, the AerithxCloud shippers descend like bats outta hell like &quot;RAWR U LIE, CLOTI EEZ NAUT CANONZ!!1!!!1!&quot;. And they still do. To this day. So no, the war is not over. It died, came back to life and continues to haunt the fandom as some kind of lust-fueled zombie. And this isn&#039;t even counting the craziness that the yaoi options (which I also despise) bring to the table.

Yes, this is amusing indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This amuses me.</p>
<p>As a FFVII fangirl (GIRL!) who likes Cloud, Tifa and Aerith but doesn&#8217;t go mad shipping them with anybody, I can say I was/am safely neutral. And, in my neutral position, watching the two factions in battle was/is absolutely hilarious at times.</p>
<p>Yet, even with this confirmation, the AerithxCloud shippers descend like bats outta hell like &#8220;RAWR U LIE, CLOTI EEZ NAUT CANONZ!!1!!!1!&#8221;. And they still do. To this day. So no, the war is not over. It died, came back to life and continues to haunt the fandom as some kind of lust-fueled zombie. And this isn&#8217;t even counting the craziness that the yaoi options (which I also despise) bring to the table.</p>
<p>Yes, this is amusing indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryushikaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryushikaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, let me extend an invitation to the forum proper to you as well. This conversation really is better suited there.

Nextly, no it&#039;s not bad for the two to have officially had sex under the highwind, because Sex is not a panacea. Having it doesn&#039;t mean that there cannot be trouble later on.
Nor, as you say, are Cloud and Tifa at odds with each other in Advent Children. They both want the same thing. The difference is that Cloud is depressed and doesn&#039;t feel he deserves his family. And Cloud was happy and optimistic for quite some time after FF7. The first we see of him post FF7 is telling Tifa he can succeed in life where once he failed because he had Tifa with him.

Also, Tifa was interested in Cloud when he said he wanted in SOLDIER, but she believed he could make it and was waiting for his return- she wanted to impress him as he impressed her.

Tifa did NOT keep vital details from Cloud, she was confused because Cloud knew information that meant he had to have been at Nibleheim- which he was- even though she didn&#039;t remember him being there.

As for seeking comfort, Cloud was not seeking comfort at the church. Cloud was seeking FORGIVENESS. Cloud had run from his comfort, from his happiness, to find that forgiveness.
And no, Cloud does not drive into a field of flowers. Cloud is heading home ON THE ROAD after a day of deliveries. Watch Reminiscence.

As for &#039;no one but an S-E official can declare the love triangle over&#039;, stating that Cloud and Tifa confirmed mutual romantic feelings in an ultimania is exactly that. Cloud and Tifa have declared their feelings for each other. That&#039;s the end of the love triangle.

But again, please, join us on the forum. There is a thread dedicated to this topic already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, let me extend an invitation to the forum proper to you as well. This conversation really is better suited there.</p>
<p>Nextly, no it&#8217;s not bad for the two to have officially had sex under the highwind, because Sex is not a panacea. Having it doesn&#8217;t mean that there cannot be trouble later on.<br />
Nor, as you say, are Cloud and Tifa at odds with each other in Advent Children. They both want the same thing. The difference is that Cloud is depressed and doesn&#8217;t feel he deserves his family. And Cloud was happy and optimistic for quite some time after FF7. The first we see of him post FF7 is telling Tifa he can succeed in life where once he failed because he had Tifa with him.</p>
<p>Also, Tifa was interested in Cloud when he said he wanted in SOLDIER, but she believed he could make it and was waiting for his return- she wanted to impress him as he impressed her.</p>
<p>Tifa did NOT keep vital details from Cloud, she was confused because Cloud knew information that meant he had to have been at Nibleheim- which he was- even though she didn&#8217;t remember him being there.</p>
<p>As for seeking comfort, Cloud was not seeking comfort at the church. Cloud was seeking FORGIVENESS. Cloud had run from his comfort, from his happiness, to find that forgiveness.<br />
And no, Cloud does not drive into a field of flowers. Cloud is heading home ON THE ROAD after a day of deliveries. Watch Reminiscence.</p>
<p>As for &#8216;no one but an S-E official can declare the love triangle over&#8217;, stating that Cloud and Tifa confirmed mutual romantic feelings in an ultimania is exactly that. Cloud and Tifa have declared their feelings for each other. That&#8217;s the end of the love triangle.</p>
<p>But again, please, join us on the forum. There is a thread dedicated to this topic already.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also don&#039;t understand the whole appeal. Don&#039;t get me wrong I love Tifa and Aerith, but I feel that CloudxTifa makes a poor love story. Outcast guy falls for popular girl who does not give him the time of day until he decides to join SOLDIER. Then said popular girl takes an interest years later and keeps crucial information about his past from him until it is too late. Then supposedly has sex with her outside in clear view of everyone on the Highwind and then proceeds to act like nothing happened. And then he suffers from depression after all of these events and seeks comfort in the place where he met another girl and does not let her in. And at the end drives on his motorcycle into a field of flowers. Even if he supposedly comes back to 7th Heaven (which he would have to have done eventually) he plans to spend his time with everyone, not just her. I just don&#039;t see the appeal of this love story. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not a shipper, but I have never really got Cloti and I need someone to explain it to me. I see them as close friends who are very important to each other, but I don&#039;t see anything romantic between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also don&#8217;t understand the whole appeal. Don&#8217;t get me wrong I love Tifa and Aerith, but I feel that CloudxTifa makes a poor love story. Outcast guy falls for popular girl who does not give him the time of day until he decides to join SOLDIER. Then said popular girl takes an interest years later and keeps crucial information about his past from him until it is too late. Then supposedly has sex with her outside in clear view of everyone on the Highwind and then proceeds to act like nothing happened. And then he suffers from depression after all of these events and seeks comfort in the place where he met another girl and does not let her in. And at the end drives on his motorcycle into a field of flowers. Even if he supposedly comes back to 7th Heaven (which he would have to have done eventually) he plans to spend his time with everyone, not just her. I just don&#8217;t see the appeal of this love story. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not a shipper, but I have never really got Cloti and I need someone to explain it to me. I see them as close friends who are very important to each other, but I don&#8217;t see anything romantic between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, no offense to Cloti shippers, but wouldn&#039;t it be bad if they officially had sex under the Highwind. I mean, they never mention it again, don&#039;t appear to be like a couple afterwards, and in Advent Children, they are clearly at odds with each other for the majority of the movie. You can chalk this up to him being depressed, but that would be a pretty awful way to treat her if he&#039;d had sex with her. The Highwind scene had multiple variations depending on how the player made Cloud act towards Tifa. Despite this &quot;evidence&quot;, there is plenty of evidence for Clerith and much better evidence for Cloti. I just think the &quot;they had sex in the Highwind scene&quot; is not a valid argument since that would make them the worst couple in the franchise for having slept together and then never sealing their &quot;relationship&quot;. And by the way, I don&#039;t think anyone but a Square Enix official can declare the love triangle debate &quot;over&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, no offense to Cloti shippers, but wouldn&#8217;t it be bad if they officially had sex under the Highwind. I mean, they never mention it again, don&#8217;t appear to be like a couple afterwards, and in Advent Children, they are clearly at odds with each other for the majority of the movie. You can chalk this up to him being depressed, but that would be a pretty awful way to treat her if he&#8217;d had sex with her. The Highwind scene had multiple variations depending on how the player made Cloud act towards Tifa. Despite this &#8220;evidence&#8221;, there is plenty of evidence for Clerith and much better evidence for Cloti. I just think the &#8220;they had sex in the Highwind scene&#8221; is not a valid argument since that would make them the worst couple in the franchise for having slept together and then never sealing their &#8220;relationship&#8221;. And by the way, I don&#8217;t think anyone but a Square Enix official can declare the love triangle debate &#8220;over&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryushikaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryushikaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalya, Cloud spends the closing credits driving home to the 7th Heaven. He spends the post credit sequence with Denzel.

Nojima, the writer, has said that with Tifa is where Cloud belongs. Nomura described one of Tifa&#039;s roles as someone&#039;s beloved. They are stated to have a future together.

And no, there is nowhere near the quantity or quality of &#039;quotes and references&#039; to the hypothetical relationship between Cloud and Aerith as there are to the one Cloud and Tifa have.

Also, my article is not canon and does not claim to be part of the canon. It is reporting on a canon fact. There is a difference.
All the information in this article comes from an official Ultimania. It is Square Enix, not I, who says Cloud and Tifa confirmed mutual feelings, and that these were related to romance.

If you wish to discuss this further, may I please suggest you sign up for the forums and continue the discussion there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalya, Cloud spends the closing credits driving home to the 7th Heaven. He spends the post credit sequence with Denzel.</p>
<p>Nojima, the writer, has said that with Tifa is where Cloud belongs. Nomura described one of Tifa&#8217;s roles as someone&#8217;s beloved. They are stated to have a future together.</p>
<p>And no, there is nowhere near the quantity or quality of &#8216;quotes and references&#8217; to the hypothetical relationship between Cloud and Aerith as there are to the one Cloud and Tifa have.</p>
<p>Also, my article is not canon and does not claim to be part of the canon. It is reporting on a canon fact. There is a difference.<br />
All the information in this article comes from an official Ultimania. It is Square Enix, not I, who says Cloud and Tifa confirmed mutual feelings, and that these were related to romance.</p>
<p>If you wish to discuss this further, may I please suggest you sign up for the forums and continue the discussion there.</p>
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