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I've seen some streamers really enjoy the romance being portrayed in these games yet not wanting to be called a shipper for it, so the label itself definitely has garnered a toxic identity with it so people want to avoid it.

To be fair, a lot of people aren't necessarily fascinated or care as much about that aspect of the game and it's not really front and center most of the time and is more built up on the side while focus is elsewhere. It's a very important key point of the game that most things in the story...

That's one way to please people i guess. Release a separate Visual Novel style spin-off game with these characters and have fun with that. Though then people would debate with that too aarghh.

I think i threw that idea out there in this thread at one point wondering about the white materia, not really sure if it was ever explained exactly how it works though.

There definitely is a side of the fandom who are into that for sure. I always very hard disagreed with the takes that he would take the main character position from Cloud when he goes missing. Still not sure why anyone genuinely thought it was a good idea besides some people who just don't like...

Yeah that's fair i guess if that was the angle they were going for. Maybe i misunderstood Aeriths purpose there. Though we still do get the Zack framing in the church multiple times in Rebirth, including in this very same date here, so the scene definitely comes across as if the church is...

It sure feels like a lot of people only care who wins and nothing else about this game sometimes.

Very much this right here. I don't want them to stain this work for stupid shit like this.

I genuinely don't think he knew what she meant at first with the "our place" statement, only after they arrive he plays along and plays it cool by saying "gimme a harder one next time". If i was supposed to read his initial reaction to her bringing up the place as him just "teasing" her about...

Yeah this is how i see the "real Cloud peeks out" statements. He most strongly shows these moments with Tifa ofc, but he does have his little moments with everyone too where his kind and caring self is there instead of the cool wannabe SOLDIER act. It's not that we don't have the true Cloud...

Why i don't personally like us having multiple Aeriths of different times in these games. I can't get invested on a version of her that only exists there for that one scene instead of the one who i've been with the whole game. And like you said, i don't know why we needed both this and the...

That one also ends up pretty quickly when one of the participants tells the other to go talk to a wall when they decide to open up. FF8 just didn't really open the gates much for Seifer or Quistis in the equation.

No thank you. I've seen quite a few people wanting multiple endings and we all know exactly why they want it. I don't want them to cop out with this game and trying to please everyone.

I sure hope so.

Each to their own i guess. I found it cool and was disappointed i couldn't finish the fight with those 3 after.

Triple team up attacks. They have to now that they teased us with the Avalanche trio move against Jenova lifebringer.

He does talk quite a bit with Tifa in some of the quests with her too, most notably the gym quest i would say and he is very talkative in the Red Gold Saucer date also, which is why i really enjoyed that one. Granted the Gongaga talk is easily the most vulnerable he's ever been with anyone. Just...

If only they went as well with real people.

I really like how they handled the promise this time around, besides maybe the promise triggering in a very random location. The whole tender moment in Stargazers with Cloud bringing it up was so much better than Tifa just quickly bringing it up in OG in the bar and Cloud being like "oh yeah we...

I don't know what else to call their eventual reunion based on what the games have shown me. If Zack isn't a love interest to Aerith then what is he? Also did the person leave Aerith out of the importance equation there when she's the sole driving force for Zack in these games? Or i guess the...