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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    For fandom and kind of real life scenarios too—I find that justifying irrational reactions by reflecting it onto something that, on its own inspection, is completely reasonable and SHOULDN'T beget that reaction, doesn't work out logically. A kind of "they were asking for it" mentality that just...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Thus the confirmation bias. Because they chose HER version of the play, but for some people, there is no explanation outside of making both the relationship of Cloud and Aerith and that of the continuity of her Gold Saucer event canonical. There's issues to be discussed with both of these...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    As in "the CA moments", you mean specifically why did they use Cloud and Aerith's version of the play? Or, literally any scenes featuring the two characters? Because it's in the game—with the addendum of putting extra weight on Aerith, who just died and was a focal point of the game. An answer...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    I think that's just a mix up of title—Maiden was talking about NPTK in that first paragraph, not Hollow. With that being said, let's propose this is the message: "NPTK is a love song for Aerith and Cloud and they'll be together"—this was some people's conclusion after the Theme Song trailer. A...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Thing is, the actual outlandish interpretations have A LOT of dependency outside of what is presented (as is true for a multitude of fandoms), and I mean that in a way where I don't believe companies shouldn't be able to represent what makes sense character and story-wise because of fandom...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Ehh...I tend to dislike that merch/supplemental representation point of view. In totality of it all—this is primarily the effect of fans having different paths of understanding and reaching different conclusions of what stuff means. Like, for a general fandom example, I have an issue with the...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Ah.....it's fun. lol All these theories and discussions—I only want to care for the merit of discussion and how that interacts with the limitations of understanding. It's hard though, because while we're here saying what we do, all sides are in a state of bewilderment of how others are just not...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Hmm, place the playback speed to .25 (and you may want to hit mute for the sound). From the angle of which Cloud turns his head and leans in, and the angle of which Tifa slightly turns too, he wouldn't make contact further in enough for it to convincingly be on the cheek. At best, you could say...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Proposed past context of romanticism ≠ pining, if said character (or person) is feeling something from their death. It would be a hard hill to say that this was vague considering what has been expressed and said in all supporting material. I'd say it's easily a good faith argument, if even...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    "Having 2 heroines, Aerith and Tifa, and having the hero waver between them, that was something new." Ehh, I think it'd be best to change the way most people understand this quote. The context here was Kitase talking about the scenario, and if we're really saying "the hero = Cloud"—it's just...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Lol Since I love Supernatural, I gotta jump in though. XD But I'll make it relevant. Anyway, I definitely have seen the worst, and everyone's on the money that it's really just all over in fandoms. I've always seen it as a result of the fact romanticism in general, like our ability to seek it...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    I wouldn't say it "requires" it, but within the limited context of the OG even, it's a natural way to understand he is considering multiple girls to help him and Cloud. Context here is different than talking about one girl to then inquire about the nature of women through that. The "all over"...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    For me, it's so much easier with an understanding that pre-CC Zack and post-CC Zack are different depictions of his character and showcase different values for his relationship with Aerith. So much contrast. To be blunt, post-CC Zack is very much so written to be all about Aerith, in a way that...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Lol As someone who practically wrote a while dissertation over it, it's definitely made complicated by how people understand it or how they, to be honest, conveniently want to use it. There are some variances depending on what people are talking about, on what is canonical or not.
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Yeah both would be reflective of something true contextually, really. Probably why people are so attached to the ENG Midgar Blues too. That's how production of these themes usually work evidently—very intentional and specific attention put into its creation and presentation as the FF/KH series...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Yup, not at all consequently different. Don't know why the distinction keeps being made, especially considering how contextually it makes since for the emotional manipulation Jenova takes advantage of. Love, Fear, AND Hatred are basically the big 3 for that objective. Aerith has feelings for...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    I would be willing to bet that they didn't do the entirety of the script from the ENG version, but it certainly isn't impossible or at least for certain parts. I want to say it was something for a podcast if you want to check it out, though I could be wrong. Edit: Nah I think I was actually...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    @Rin Oh, lol, just of interest—I just took a peak at the credits and for ENG, there's some interesting honorable mentions this time around. They literally hired Elizabeth Bushouse, who for the FF7 community at least was known for providing scripts of JPN/ENG scripts for Remake for the fandom, to...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Nothing concerning LtD on my part, but yup. Though at times you will have translators at other offices, too, in addition to who is directly a part of the development team. Seemingly, very rarely will it just be translators somewhere else and not in-house. This is the case for most, if not all...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Yup, that's how I feel basically. It's Cloud really not being in the same tempo that Aerith wants him to be at. The ENG line is really the same, but that depends on how people understand the purpose and functionality of Cloud's response. I'll be a broken record at this point. Lol
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