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Probably a reference to "Just Monika" from DDLC. Maybe they mean the ending where we don't know if she's alive or dead or whatnot

There's also that plenty of anime almost seems to promote unhealthy relationships. The main guy is a jerk but is soft and gentle towards the main girl? Squee material. The main girl will fix him! Funny enough, more and more anime that go against the grain harems and romcoms set have been popping...

That's an insult to wet noodles. :desuawesomonster: Then again, I'm still of the opinion that Cloud in the OG had the personality of a wet noodle until after LSS, so... :awesome: So they didn't even notice that Cloud's responses are different from whatever option you picked even way back then...

I'm also curious about this. The official timeline is 2 or 3 weeks, right? Aerith's around for half of it at best, and it's during the time when Cloud is emotionally unavailable (as was she, really). Ngl, if Cloud fell in love with Aerith during that time, the Lifestream Scene (and UTH by...

The only ceasefire proposal that would ever be acceptable is if they stop invading other spaces and trying to argue canon...which is probably a huge ask, seeing as they want CA to be canon so badly. Seriously, though, that proposal of theirs is so tone deaf and brain dead. I didn't even think...

The basic idea doesn't even quite work when Cloud literally can't confide in Aerith because his memories were scrambled at the time. Aerith talks about it, sure. But Cloud never does (unless memory is failing me). I'm putting my bet on vibes and CA having a tragic angle plus being backed up by...

Even being ESL aside (I'm also ESL), what they said was CA not coming across as having a "deep spiritual bond," not having no bonds at all. Those are two very different things as well. Cloud himself has stated that there isn't a thing he doesn't cherish, so it's just bad faith to say he had no...

You and me both. Sorta. I understand it in the sense that it seems like that's what the story wants to convey. Whether or not it came across seems to differ from one person to another. To you and me, it didn't. For me, personally, while I see there were times Cloud does comfort Aerith, Aerith...

I'd say this is it. And as a bonus, it also gets Tifa out of the way. The real kicker is that instead of just keeping that to themselves as their headcanon, they're trying to convince the other person there that they're right. They even cited the Mandela effect for it.

You leave them alone for a bit and they go ahead and become Sephiroth themselves. Gotta say, what a clumsy attempt at gaslighting (intentional or not), though. I mean, fact checking that "misunderstanding" is very easy.

delurking for a moment I see it as Cloud and Aerith both having the younger sibling energy -- one wants to be indulged while the other pretends to be so above it all. No incarnation of Aerith ever struck me as the older-sister figure, cause as you said, she's very child-like.

And this is where we go back to making a case for their lack of media literacy. Imo, the hallmark of a well-written character is that there's more to them than meets the eye. FF7 isn't unique in that regard (not even in 1997). That or they do know, and they just refuse to acknowledge it, as...

Just to jump in here a bit, but what little exposure I have to yaoi (my sister is a hardcore fan) gave me the impression that Yaoi pairs aren't really two men. One of them is so feminine he might as well be a woman (and it's usually the uke). This isn't to say that men can't have feminine...

Dude, I know all of this. Don't put words in my mouth. But okay, it's not like you're wrong, so I'll leave this here. To be fair to you, wording it the way I did wasn't the best call either, so it's whatever. At the end of the day, I'll never deny CT is canon and that, despite all the odds...

As is true for everyone, I'm aware. I never said he didn't try, either. AC in particular just gives a rather bad depiction that he did. Like I said, Retrilogy did a good job so far selling him as a partner.

Stuff like this is why I hesitate to say that I ship CT. I acknowledge that the story supports it being canon, but goddamn, sometimes I feel my girl Tifa deserves more than Cloud. Edit to add: Retrilogy has so far given me a far better impression of Cloud as a partner.

It's certainly interesting to see the amount of hoops they jump through to make this work, that's for sure. It's at least less...hostile-sounding (like, it's not directly aimed at disproving CT) but it still doesn't explain why he said nothing when Aerith said she now knew where they stood...

This and an environmental message tangent near the end. Maybe it was obvious, but I sure as hell didn't expect that to come into play.

And I was just listening to the track most associated with Kana (Next to You) while writing a fic today. What a coincidence :mon: But as someone who had at least seen that anime, they do have similarities, yeah. There's one more possible similarity that will come up later x3

I won't xP But that won't stop me from judging them with extreme prejudice. That would be quite the change, because in OG, Aerith successfully prayed for Holy before she died. It was part of her tragedy -- her death wasn't necessary (at least in terms of summoning Holy). I just had a convo...