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From what I saw it's more CAs being misogynistic about Tifa's looks but as you say it probably depends on the community you follow. So I can't even say for sure if it's really more CAs who act in this kind of behavior. But it is still awful no matter how you look at it.

I come from a time where the Atelier games still had a time limit (and Firis, haha) but I had issues with how Lightning Returns handled the time passing system. At least from what I remember it seems tough but that was many years ago, so yeah the best is to just try again.

Currently playing Trails Through Daybreak but I still consider picking up FFXIII Lightning Returns again... The time limit just kinda scares me.

I'll try to catch up with posts here...I needed a break from the forum to play Trails Through Daybreak. 🎃 We could create a voting pool for a new thread name! And everyone can include their fav drink. Unfortunately, there will always be people who will down play the role of either Tifa or...

That sound's pretty much how many otome games and Visual Novels work. Just that you have to absolutely play through all routes (in most cases) to unlock the true route. A pretty interesting concept which isn't even part of FFVII though. So I don't understand why some people pretend that is was...

Is this from the Clerith subreddit or the actual FFVII one? Because it's even more obvious in the remake that the story is developing Cloti.

Fully agree on that. They also make it more obvious that Aerith is coping with her dream date in chapter 14. Or how Aerith even copies some of Zack's gestures in Remake and Rebirth. With Zelink artist... do you mean the incident that recently happened on Twitter? Where someone got mad over an...

I saw it via the updated version from TifaTheMonk: x.com

That would be so beautiful. I'm really looking forward to the Zerith reunion.

And all of us failed to see this! :flipmonster:

That's actually an interesting way of looking at the whole Clerith vs Zerith thing. I also wonder if some of them will actually turn into Zerith's after part 3. This 100%. I remember some of these Tweets especially with the entire "kiss cope" etc and while reading them I was already like...

Yup, that was Margot. It's possible that this was also the tweet that lead me to block that account. To even bother a VA with this disrespect was too much. I'm glad that Cody spoke up against this kind of behavior.

Where did you even find this, haha? I only know about the passive TLS hate from stories and it's mainly because this place is a "Cloti based forum" or something like that. Ah and there are a few tweets about certain members being toxic because they disagreed on nonesense. I think I blocked her...

Sometimes they also say, he only smiled because he knows he will see Aerith again. And that it had nothing to do with Tifa... like...he literally says that he smiles because of her.

Yeah and as far as I remember it's pretty much the same people who were so sure that their ship gets a kiss. But since it didn't happen they either say Cloud kissing Tifa was just cope or that holding hands is more powerful than a kiss.

Then there are also the people who go and take an action like holding hands and then search like all the different cultures where it might have a romantic meaning. And even if they have found a culture where it can possibly be interpreted in this way, it is often still very much out of context...

Yeah but people will still turn an blind eye on it until SE themselves make a offical statement. And even then some will say that evil Cloti's forced them to deny Maiden being canon. That doesn't sound so bad to me. I mean in the end Aerith will be included in some way in part 3 and if they go...

Was just about to ask if this is from Maiden. I think the problem is that SE has never really distanced itself from Maiden in statements and therefore it is assumed by parts of the community that it is canon.

Yes, especially after replaying it in german.

Exactly. The devs had the opportunity to give Aerith a kiss scene during her GS date but in the end decided to make this scene exclusive to one character. When the leak with the HA Tifa date appeared, I actually assumed that Aerith would also get a scene like that (which turned out to be wrong)...