*split off from the Concept art from art gallery thread*
At the end of the FF 30th Anniversary exhibit, Nomura made a surprise appearance, showed some new designs for the main characters and made the following comment:
Far as I can tell, to be "dorky" has multiple connotations: To be stupid, socially inept and/or awkward. Having these traits may lead to one ending up in silly situations or coming off as silly.
However, my memory of Cloud Strife in the original game doesn't subscribe to this image of him.
I can see why some people would think this way though. Cloud's overly serious and depressed depictions in Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts (and to a degree the PSP Dissidia titles) has caused a backlash and makes people long for the original game's Cloud. People point to the instance of Cloud saying "Let's Mosey" in the Northern Cave as a prime example of who Cloud is "supposed" to be. But is this really how Cloud was for most of the game? Or even how he acted after he recovered from mako poisoning, when Cloud is supposed to be more true to himself? I'm not getting that impression.
My impression is rather that the backlash against AC-Cloud is so strong that their idea of OG-Cloud overcompensates, turning him from a mostly neutral, non-distinct personality into a "dorky" one.
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Quotes from the Concept art thread:
I always pictured Cid referring more to Cloud's screw-ups: Handing the Black Materia to Sephiroth twice and beating up Aerith and then almost cleaving her in half. But there is definitely room for interpretation.
I question the idea of Cloud being "dorky". He got enrolled in shenanigans over at the Wall Market and I admit he gets a bit steam-rolled when he doesn't put his foot down against Cait Sith joining their party. But that still leaves me wondering how people are viewing Cloud and what Nomura's quote actually means.
For dissection by those who know Japanese, here is the "Let's Mosey" text in both English and Japanese.
Cid may say "Again!" implying that Cloud has made this mistake before of not choosing appropriate phrasing, but there is no other instance of Cloud saying "Mosey", or even of him saying the Japanese equivalent, "行こうよ" at any other point in the game. So I have no idea what previous instance Cid is referring to, if any.
At the end of the FF 30th Anniversary exhibit, Nomura made a surprise appearance, showed some new designs for the main characters and made the following comment:
My apologies Nomura, but no. I do not understand.
Far as I can tell, to be "dorky" has multiple connotations: To be stupid, socially inept and/or awkward. Having these traits may lead to one ending up in silly situations or coming off as silly.
However, my memory of Cloud Strife in the original game doesn't subscribe to this image of him.
I can see why some people would think this way though. Cloud's overly serious and depressed depictions in Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts (and to a degree the PSP Dissidia titles) has caused a backlash and makes people long for the original game's Cloud. People point to the instance of Cloud saying "Let's Mosey" in the Northern Cave as a prime example of who Cloud is "supposed" to be. But is this really how Cloud was for most of the game? Or even how he acted after he recovered from mako poisoning, when Cloud is supposed to be more true to himself? I'm not getting that impression.
My impression is rather that the backlash against AC-Cloud is so strong that their idea of OG-Cloud overcompensates, turning him from a mostly neutral, non-distinct personality into a "dorky" one.
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Quotes from the Concept art thread:
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I always pictured Cid referring more to Cloud's screw-ups: Handing the Black Materia to Sephiroth twice and beating up Aerith and then almost cleaving her in half. But there is definitely room for interpretation.
I question the idea of Cloud being "dorky". He got enrolled in shenanigans over at the Wall Market and I admit he gets a bit steam-rolled when he doesn't put his foot down against Cait Sith joining their party. But that still leaves me wondering how people are viewing Cloud and what Nomura's quote actually means.
For dissection by those who know Japanese, here is the "Let's Mosey" text in both English and Japanese.
{Cloud}
“All right, everyone, let's mosey.”
「よし、行こうよ、みんな」
{Cid}
“Damn! Again!”
“Stop sayin' it like a wimp!”
“Can't you say
'Move out!' or somethin'?”
「カーーッ！　またかよっ！」
「やめてくれよ
　その気の抜けた言い方」
「『行くぜ！！』くらい
　言えねぇのかよ」
{Cloud}
“Move out!!”
「行くぜ！！」
“All right, everyone, let's mosey.”
「よし、行こうよ、みんな」
{Cid}
“Damn! Again!”
“Stop sayin' it like a wimp!”
“Can't you say
'Move out!' or somethin'?”
「カーーッ！　またかよっ！」
「やめてくれよ
　その気の抜けた言い方」
「『行くぜ！！』くらい
　言えねぇのかよ」
{Cloud}
“Move out!!”
「行くぜ！！」
Cid may say "Again!" implying that Cloud has made this mistake before of not choosing appropriate phrasing, but there is no other instance of Cloud saying "Mosey", or even of him saying the Japanese equivalent, "行こうよ" at any other point in the game. So I have no idea what previous instance Cid is referring to, if any.
Now, he does say "let's move" after that, I don't know if the Japanese is something forceful like 行くぞ！ or not. But either way, answering the question like that could definitely be another case of him "sayin' it like a wimp."
