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Old 01/26/2017   #16
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LicoriceAllsorts wrote: So, I joined Discord and it seems very nice. Odd choice of name. Anyway, I have a question. When they asked me to confirm my email, they sent me this message:

"Wowwee! Thanks for registering an account with Discord! You’re the coolest person in all the land (and I’ve met a lot of really cool people).
Before we get started, we’ll need to verify your account. To do so, click on the comically large button below or click this link."

Is this the kind of message all the cool kids like these days? I can't ever feeling thrilled to get a message like this, not even when I was eight years old. It feels like it's trying way, way too hard - like Virgin mobile faux-matey messages ("Wow. Hi there! We really love you, so just chill and listen to these great tunes while we try to find someone who can talk to you." Three hours later.....) or tumblr letting me know I have a new follower. (Fourtitsandbuttcheeks started following you. Swoon! Love, tumblr).

Why are these messages so awful?

You gotta pay a price to get away from Skypes crappy resource hoggyness, bad codec/voice quality and voip infrastructure that is decade past its prime
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Old 01/26/2017   #17
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Teh Pink Ranger wrote: You gotta pay a price to get away from Skypes crappy resource hoggyness, bad codec/voice quality and voip infrastructure that is decade past its prime
And yet, Discord is a webapp, which means it's slogged down by the overhead of the DOM, javascript, CSS, and a fat browser engine to run it all on . It says a lot about Skype when this is perceived as faster / better though.
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Old 01/26/2017   #18
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There's also a standalone app.
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Old 01/26/2017   #19
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^. Pretty much. I never use the browser page xD

IIRC you cant use PTT in the browser and phone version as well as a few other things.
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Old 01/26/2017   #20
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The Discord app is probably the webapp running in an Electron container (a stripped down Chrome browser / web rendering engine), just like other apps I frequently use like Slack, Atom, VS Code, etc. Which have err, varying performance.

all I'm saying; discord and co have Good Enough performance, but a properly built native app could in theory have better performance. That would probably lack the cross-platform power though, since it's relatively easy nowadays to have a browser, desktop and crossplatform mobile app if you use web technology.
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Old 01/27/2017   #21
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Yawn.

I've been around since AOL. I understand Discord is THE NEXT COOL THING, but what really matters is availability. If you're gonna ask people to sign up for yet another platform, chances are they never will. We used IRC because the server we were on had an easily available web app (which later turned to shait), then later Skype because most people already have Skype, particularly after MSN was slaughtered. We always knew Skype has its issues, but the availability and easy access combined (with open group chats and a web ui) made ut suitable as a public chat. I'm all for Discord if it's easy to make new members use it and feel welcome, that was always my intention. Not to use the NEWEST SUPER KEWL CHAT TECNOLOGY oneoneone. I've only used it casually so I don't know if it has a web app we can link (channel in link that sets up a guest user), which I think should be a requirement.
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Old 01/27/2017   #22
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I mean if were gonna be talking about the sewperkewl voip chat program that everyone is using these days we wouldn't even be using Discord. It would be a tie between Curse Voice and Slack, and heck Slack doesn't even have voice chat. It's just that popular

I'm not sure how a program that isn't a baseline pre-installed app on a computer (atleast as far as Win10 is concerned) is some how more ease of access than another program that also isn't preinstalled on the OS.

So the big ease of access thing for "new people" would be to say "Hey click our Discord invite!" , rather than "Hey download skype, install it , make an account , add one of us on Skype, wait for us to accept and then wait for one of us to send you an invite to our group chat" lol.


As far as UI , Ease of Access and just general quality of life differences Discord really just curb stomps Skype.

IIRC Skype still actually has a limit on the amount of people that can be in a group chat, I recall seeing that we had to delete long time AFK members to make room for more etc.

That's not an issue on discord. Want 200 people in? NP. Want those 200 people in 1 voice call to ruin your ear drums? NP. Want 100 different chat rooms in the over all server? NP. Want mods and staff to help manage it? NP

The list goes on. Skype was a good start but honestly program like Discord, Curse , hell even shitty af Raidcall are just far better and too robust to just not utilize. Especially when joining is literally as simple as clicking the invite link and spending 2 minutes to sign up. Hell I'm not even sure you have to verify your email to use it lol. You can do it all from your browser , and if you wanna go further you can download it as well.



Plus, Custom Smileys yo.
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Old 01/27/2017   #23
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Teh Pink Ranger wrote: I'm not sure how a program that isn't a baseline pre-installed app on a computer (atleast as far as Win10 is concerned) is some how more ease of access than another program that also isn't preinstalled on the OS.

So the big ease of access thing for "new people" would be to say "Hey click our Discord invite!" , rather than "Hey download skype, install it , make an account , add one of us on Skype, wait for us to accept and then wait for one of us to send you an invite to our group chat" lol.
What I said was, Skype is more easily accessible to a lot more people than Discord because a lot of people already have Skype installed, especially since MSN was eaten by Skype. People who wanted to keep chatting to their MSN contacts started using Skype instead.

Also I guess you haven't noticed that the group chat we're currently using is completely open, and you don't even need to download anything to use it. You don't even need an account. Click "Chat" above here and you'll see. That was the final thing that convinced me to drop #tls completely and move to something more users would be comfortable using.

IIRC Skype still actually has a limit on the amount of people that can be in a group chat, I recall seeing that we had to delete long time AFK members to make room for more etc.
The group limit is actually 300 for chat. For voicing, it's 25. But we're never that many people voicing at the same time anyway.

Especially when joining is literally as simple as clicking the invite link and spending 2 minutes to sign up. Hell I'm not even sure you have to verify your email to use it lol.
I had to verify my email.

Anyway if Discord has a web interface along with that open invite, it's starting to look like it's just as well to swap one for the other. I'm not super impressed with Skype, don't get me wrong. I've championed millions of campaigns to get people back into #tls, but, IRC is hard

Plus, Custom Smileys yo.
Well, that is something that will make a lot of people happy
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Old 01/27/2017   #24
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Also I just tested their guest feature. You do get an annoying screen asking you to download stuff with a tiny grey link that says "skip", but other than that, this works really well for guest users too.

Should probably send people to #chit_chat instead of the XIV chat though

(SPOILER) I'd love for the main channel to be called #tls but that's purely for nostalgic purposes

It's probably also wise to keep the number of chats to a minimum.

Edit: I also expect we lay down some identifying rules as we did with the Skype chat. I have no time for special snowflakes who decide to dick around instead of just saying who they are on TLS
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Old 01/27/2017   #25
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just so long as fangu and I have a private chat idc
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Old 01/27/2017   #26
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Fangu wrote: I also expect we lay down some identifying rules as we did with the Skype chat. I have no time for special snowflakes who decide to dick around instead of just saying who they are on TLS
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Old 01/27/2017   #27
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get lost Singapore
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Ghost X wrote: As long as Fangu delivers the pizza, I will not particularly mind what is on it. Even if it is hot fiery death in plant form.


Progress!
2012
Member of the Year, Best Site Contributor (2nd), Best Newcomer, Hottest Female, Bounciest Boobies (3rd), Member You’d Most Like to Meet in Real Life, Most Improved (3rd), Best Drunk/Stoner, “Needs to Spend Less Time on TLS” Award (3rd), Best Ship (1st, Avengu) (3rd, Sprexanghululock), Most Likely to Survive the Zombie Apocalypse (3rd), Most Likely to Save the World, Most Suited to Be on Cosmos’ Side (2nd)

2013
TLS Lifetime Achievement Award (3rd), Best Site Contributor (3rd), Hottest Female, Biggest Non-FF Geek (3rd), Most in Need of Daylight (2nd), Member You'd Most Like to Meet in Real Life, Member You'd Most Like to Bone (2nd), Horniest Member (2nd), Best Drunk/Stoner (3rd), The TLS Literature Prize, Most Talented (Art, Writing, Music, Etc.) (3rd), Best Ass (3rd), Most Fervent TLSer, Most Likely to Go the Extra Mile (3rd)

2014
Member of the Year (2nd), Best Site Contributor (3rd), Hottest Female (2nd), Nicest Smile, Member You'd Most Like to Meet in Real Life, Member You'd Most Like to Bone (2nd), The Lifestream Literature Prize, Best Ass (2nd), Sexiest Voice, Best Ship/TLS OTP (3rd, Sprexanghululock), Most Fervent TLSer (3rd), Most Likely to Make the Best-Tasting Food (2nd), Most Likely to Go the Extra Mile (2nd)

2015
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Old 01/27/2017   #29
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I said it was Tel like ages ago on the chat.

I'll change the direct link on the first page of this thread to go to the chit_chat. No idea why it went straight to FFXIV, I just thought people were trying to trigger me by randomly messaging there.
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Old 02/20/2017   #30
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Sooo I'm kind of under the impression that the server Joe set up is functioning more as a 'TLS XIV guild' server rather than an actual TLS server.

I like Discord. But I'm proposing that we move back to Ryu's test server or create a new one. Since there's no problem following several "servers" on Discord at the same time I don't see it as being a major difference from the setup as is today.

Thoughts?
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Progress!
2012
Member of the Year, Best Site Contributor (2nd), Best Newcomer, Hottest Female, Bounciest Boobies (3rd), Member You’d Most Like to Meet in Real Life, Most Improved (3rd), Best Drunk/Stoner, “Needs to Spend Less Time on TLS” Award (3rd), Best Ship (1st, Avengu) (3rd, Sprexanghululock), Most Likely to Survive the Zombie Apocalypse (3rd), Most Likely to Save the World, Most Suited to Be on Cosmos’ Side (2nd)

2013
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2014
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2015
Member you'd most like to bone (2nd), Best Drunk/Stoner (3rd), Hottest female (3rd), Sexiest voice (3rd)

2016
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