FF Versus XIII Rumored to finally be dead.

ForceStealer

Double Growth
Raise your hand if you're surprised.

It's been six years since Square Enix first showed Final Fantasy Versus XIII's debut trailer. Six long years. When that trailer premiered, George W. Bush was president, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were alive, and the global financial crisis had not yet hit. 2006 was a different world, a long, long time ago.

Now Kotaku has learned that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is no more.
Kotaku has heard from several sources that the game, as originally intended, is done for.

One source tells Kotaku that Final Fantasy Versus XIII was officially cancelled within the last few weeks. The decision impacted morale at Square Enix and staff were reportedly saddened by the move.

Square Enix, this source added, has also decided to let Final Fantasy Versus XIII die quietly on the vine and fade away, instead of officially announcing its cancellation. This would likely be due to the fact a public acknowledgement of a Versus' cancellation could impact things like Square Enix's stock prices.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been M.I.A. for the past few months, save for the occasional, brief mention. Earlier this spring, Final Fantasy Versus XIII designer Tetsuya Nomura spoke with Japanese game mag Famitsu about the title, which has only ever been seen in trailer and screenshot form.

"We're almost done with preparing the latest info for the game," Nomura told Famitsu. "Because of a totally unrelated reason, there are circumstances in which that info cannot be released."

That was March.

"Because of a totally unrelated reason, there are circumstances in which that info cannot be released."

Then in May, Nomura once again commented on the game, saying to Game Informer, "We would like to ask for your patience on an official announcement for this title. It always takes time when tackling the challenge of doing something completely new, but we are doing our best to bring information to the fans as quickly as we can. Your patience is greatly appreciated."

Then E3 came and went with no sign of Versus, which wasn't that strange if you remember the game was not at last year's Tokyo Game Show either.

Whatever happened to the game over those six years—whether it underwent radical changes or simply couldn't come together—it seems Square Enix has finally decided to cut its losses.

Another source tells Kotaku that, a few months back, Final Fantasy Versus XIII's development and resources had actually been folded into another game, which is to be the next numeric Final Fantasy title, Final Fantasy XV. Whether this meant actual game assets and code or simply the movement of staff was unclear. This information was independently corroborated by yet another source, though it's important to note both had learned of the "folding" prior to the more recent news of its outright cancellation.

The Final Fantasy XIII branded types have not been set in stone: another spinoff title Final Fantasy Agito XIII had its name changed to Final Fantasy Type-0. So what was originally planned as an entire mini-franchise by Square, with multiple titles spanning various platforms, looks now to be focused on the adventures of Lightning.

Whether it's been cancelled entirely or had resources absorbed into a newer, larger project, the game we once knew as Final Fantasy Versus XIII would seem to be no more. Even if Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been cancelled, I'm inclined to believe that whatever Versus was, or whatever had been created for the game, will turn up in some form in Final Fantasy XV. Surely, Square Enix would not cancel a game and completely dump all the work it's done? Right?

"We have no information on the status of Final Fantasy Versus XIII."

When Kotaku contacted Square Enix about whether or not Final Fantasy Versus XIII was still in development, the game maker released the following statement: "We have no information on the status of Final Fantasy Versus XIII, but will be sure to update you as it becomes available." Keep in mind, I wasn't asking for an update per se, I simply asked if Square Enix was still making a game it had already announced six years ago. Square Enix did not reply to Kotaku's requests for clarification regarding whether Versus was still in development or not.

Square Enix has a Final Fantasy event coming up in Tokyo in late August and September. One of the stage events is centered on the Final Fantasy XIII Project and the Lightning saga (so a Final Fantasy XIII-3 reveal?). None of the announced stage events center around Final Fantasy Versus XIII, something that Japanese gamers were quick to point out on game sites and blogs.

So, is Final Fantasy Versus XIII finally and officially dead? Without confirmation from Square Enix, we can't say for sure. While these reports certainly indicate the long-awaited game has been cancelled, Square's reluctance to acknowledge them means those desperately wanting to see more of the project still have a glimmer of hope to hold onto.

But if the game fails to make an appearance at either the upcoming Final Fantasy celebrations or the 2012 Tokyo Game Show? Then yeah, given what we've heard (particularly of Square's reported desire to kill the game quietly), you'd be a lot safer assuming Versus XIII is kaput and start looking forward to the next big FF game.

While this probably is the most sound decision they could make from a business standpoint considering how it's gone nowhere over 6 years, it's just...well...:wallbanger:

Get your shit together, Square.

In the benefit-of-the-doubt department, maybe Versus 13 will just turn into FFXV but will otherwise look about the same? It looked to have &#($-all to do with FFXIII anyway.
 

Ⓐaron

Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
AKA
The Man, V
This was the only thing a lot of fans were looking forward to from Square Enix. I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with them. Why the hell would they let a project with this much hype behind it wither and die? It would have been virtually guaranteed to make them a pretty substantial amount of money.
 

Blade

That Man
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Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
A rumor of a rumor isn't really a rumor if you ask me.

Also, they said "as is", not "completely."

So it may just get a namechange if anything like what happened with Metal Gear Rising and Final Fantasy Agito.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
The fact that Nomura keeps saying they're going to announce something about it would support that.

"The decision impacted morale at Square Enix and staff were reportedly saddened by the move," on the other hand, would not.

So who knows. I'd say we just have to wait until TGS, but whatever SE shows there will be in some stupid private theater (again, WHAT is the point of those?!?!) so we'll have to wait longer than that I'm sure.
 

AvecAloes

Donator
This was the only thing a lot of fans were looking forward to from Square Enix. I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with them. Why the hell would they let a project with this much hype behind it wither and die? It would have been virtually guaranteed to make them a pretty substantial amount of money.

From what I've seen just in this community, this^^. Really. I mean, I guess they figure they're going to continue to rake in the cash from the XIII sequels and whatnot, and no doubt they will, but I think this game would have appealed to an even larger fan-base (one that would have had a fresh start, rather than only those who actually liked XIII and XIII-2, which admittedly, I did). I certainly hope that the information that they plan to just let it die quietly without an official announcement regarding the cancellation isn't true. That is so, I don't know, cowardly. Just own up. Give your fans some closure. I guess I can see how it might immediately affect stock prices, but don't they think the growing frustration and weariness of their fans is going to do the same thing, anyway?
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Don't worry, guys! It'll be okay.

All we have to do is wait 9 more years, til' it's finally released as "Final Fantasy Forever" and quoted as having an adolescent fixation with boobs hair and crowbarred-in boy-live innuendo.

Good games don't get cancelled. They just get sent to developer hell where they're constantly killed and reconstructed until finally, after the 10th reboot, it's released and is merely a pain-ridden shadow of its former self.

Good show, S-E. Good show.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
Nothing directly narratively in common with xiii, but there were metaphysics in common.

Still, it should have probably been Versus, period, from the start rather than VXIII. Hopefully, its resources will find their way into a new game so everything made for it won't be completely wasted.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
We've been discussing this news in the actual XIII thread. Someone made a new topic at some point and it was merged in. Shouldn't the same happen to this one? Alternatively, the posts from that thread could be split out and brought here.

I don't want to have to repeat here what I wrote on the subject already, that's all :)
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Paranoia for the sake of paranoia achieves nothing.

Assume nothing people.
 
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Splintered

unsavory tart
^Exactly.

That said it would be legitimately hilarious if they announced the cancellation of Versus at the 25th Anniversary of FF. Like HURRAY FINAL FANTASY PARTY, also fuck you Versus is gone because I like to see you hate us.
 

Blade

That Man
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Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
From a developer's standpoint they've invested too much time and money to scrap the idea completely anyways.

Especially if you consider who they hired to produce the music, the voice acting, and everything else (not to mention all the hard work Yoshitaka Amano did).

If they scrap anything, at most it will just be the name and maybe a few premises...but otherwise the lore behind it and the concepts surrounding Etro most definitely will remain.
 

Blade

That Man
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Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Hey, art is art...you don't know how long it took so don't make it sound like it was easy.
 

Danseru-kun

Pro Adventurer
I could only imagine the horror of Noctella shippers. For some weird reason, there are also NocTifa shippers... dunno why.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Noctis is overrated and it's ridiculous I have to say that because the game isn't even close to being out. But I've seen him win FF popularity polls. Why.
 

Blade

That Man
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Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
I'd say something about the music going to waste, too...but seriously, I'm doubting they'd scrap that part either.

Also, I happen to like Noctis as a character...he's like the Anti-Cloud or something.

He reminds me of Lelouch from Code Geass.
 

Alex Strife

Ex-SOLDIER
I was, too...

As for Noctis, apparently he's cocky and hot-headed, so not so much Lelouch, right? I mean, Lelouch was the master of planning things, and Noctis was said to jump into danger without thinking enough.
 

Ghost X

Moderator
I doubt they'd let all this development go to waste, if it is cancelled. We'll see it in something else, unless SE likes making piles of money and covering it in petrol and lighting a match.
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Wada has confirmed via twitter that the game is not cancelled.

Calm the fuck down people.
 
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