I just got banned from CBR for a month

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
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TresDias
The bullshit reason? I agreed with someone that Bendis is a hack.

I've now sent this complaint and am awaiting a response:
I said:
Hello. I'm really confused as to why I've now been banned for an entire month for expressing dislike of an author's work. I didn't even use profanity in the post in question. How does saying that someone is a hack writer constitute "rude and insulting behavior"? That's my honest assessment of his ability, and I would be happy to provide the reasons I feel that way.

I'm very, very upset about this. I wasn't insulting other board members. And I was really looking forward to being able to discuss "Secret Wars" here when it gets released.

Though I have no idea how calling a bad writer a bad writer constitutes a ban-worthy offense in the first place, if you really must insist that it does, I must insist that a week would have been reasonable.

A month, though? Honestly, if it's going to be that far into the publication cycle of the upcoming event, I won't be coming back. That is simply absurd.

Hell, for the record, I've even said numerous times that Bendis is a great *idea man*. Marvel has benefitted greatly from his ideas. As a writer, though, I honestly think he's awful. Why does having that opinion get me banned?
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
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gabe
^Comic book resources.

Not surprised tbh.

I also agree Bendis sucks. Modern day Stan "the scam man" lee , minus you know being a scammer.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
And here's the bullshit response:

Calling a creator a "hack" is an insulting term, and its use is considered
rude behavior.  You are perfectly welcome to criticize a writer's work,
but you can't insult them for producing work you don't like.

You were already banned for a week, a month is the next step.

-- CBR Administration Staff

Fuck these guys.

Also, full disclosure: My previous ban was earned. I was insulting and mocking a misogynist fuck who was being pissy about the female Thor.
 

X-SOLDIER

Harbinger O Great Justice
AKA
X
I'd reply that, by definition:

"A hack writer is a colloquial and usually pejorative term used to refer to a writer who is paid to write low-quality, rushed articles or books "to order", often with a short deadline."

Which is exactly your opinion, and not just being used as a slur.




X :neo:
 

Lex

Administrator
Oh Tres I know you're annoyed but fuck me this is hilarious. I was on that forum yesterday after you mentioned the Iceman thing in the LGBTQ thread - couldn't help myself - and holy crap there's so much offensive shit in there I can't believe you got banned for that.

Wow.

The Qhimm forums used to be uber strict but even they'd never ban for something like that. I am in awe of the level of fail.
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
AKA
gabe
I'd reply that, by definition:

"A hack writer is a colloquial and usually pejorative term used to refer to a writer who is paid to write low-quality, rushed articles or books "to order", often with a short deadline."

Which is exactly your opinion, and not just being used as a slur.




X :neo:

IDK man. Comparing him to Rob Liefeld is a pretty big insult :monster:
 

Lex

Administrator
Tres were you banned right away or do you think they had some back stage discussion? I would love to see the logic behind this. They're probably pissing their little fanboy pants in fear that Bendis reads the forum or something XD XD XD XD

Omfg I'm sorry but this is the best thing ever just for sheer hilarity. I'm on a skype call with Carlie right now laughing about how dumb this is. I can't believe you're not allowed to express an opinion on a comic book forum what - the - fuck. It really does sound to me like a 14 year old who wants to suck on Bendis's tit until milk comes out has just taken offence and banned you.

NOTE TO ALL LIFESTREAM USERS: If you want to host a Square-Enix bashing thread on this forum, you will not be stopped. Free speech is free speech.

Taunting shinji knows

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Seriously someone add this as a smilie already
 

Carlie

CltrAltDelicious
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Chloe Frazer
Thank god you didn't say anything about Joe Quesada or they would've banned you forever.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Not that I agree at all that calling a writer a hack in insulting and should be a bannable offense, because it's not, but you got banned for a week for that light weight shit? They threatened you with a month? Do you get banned for a year if you suggest they get fired for poor work or something?
 

Ⓐaron

Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
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The Man, V
I think the week ban was for the argument with the misogynist shithead. This time was a month. Which is utterly ridiculous. The admins of this board obviously don't care about allowing their member base to express opinions.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
I expect I won't be allowed back at all after this. :monster:

I said:
You know what? Just forget it.

If CBR is a community where referring to a bad writer with a colloquialism meaning "a professional who produces sub-par work" (which, ya know, *is* a critique of the man's work; which you erroneously claim is fine) will get you banned, but the litany of bigoted and misogynistic comments I've been fighting in threads on your forum for the past year won't, then it's not a community I want to be part of anyway.

You shame yourself and you shame me as a fellow comic fan when someone can't call out shoddy work (even while defending the guy's decision to reveal Iceman as gay), but you'll let a post like this stand on your forum in a thread about diversity:

"And to tell you the truth I am really getting tired of hearing about diversity. Androids, aliens, demons, half demons, quarter demons... That isn't enough diversity?"

(Seriously, Google that shit. Just search for "androids, aliens, demons" and "diversity" in the same search, and it will come right up. Here's the post, by the way: http://community.comicbookresources...uot-and-Beyond&p=962617&viewfull=1#post962617 )

That's barely the tip of the iceberg of the offensive, insulting shit that has gotten a pass -- but oh no, I can't call a spade a spade when it comes to one hack writer who is all grand ideas and crap execution.

Were I you, I'd be thoroughly ashamed to allow the shit you have in threads about the female Thor and Iceman's revelation as being gay -- to know the new readers Marvel is trying to draw in can walk into my forum at any time and see that garbage -- but then trip over yourself in a frantic rush to defend one star writer (who inexplicably maintains that status after years of stilted dialogue, broken pacing and overly decompressed pages) from a pretty tame assessment of his mediocrity.

He's a hack, you're a shill. How do you like that?

I leave you to your hypocrisy.

-Glenn H. Morrow
A man who is many things, good and bad, but no one's bitch
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
AKA
gabe
It's just so weird. As was pointing out they let so much really disgusting shit fly.
I mean if they aren't cool with people calling out writers in the industry it's so weird that they let the ultimate "shit hits the fan" discussion fly so often : The "Stan Lee is a scam artist" debates rage on meanwhile gender equality and issues get shit on.

But god forbid you call Bendis a hack.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
Did that feel good? :P
Pretty good. :monster:
Think I might just join that forum to fuck with them they sound like a bunch of quarter wits.
Just to clarify, it's not my intention to encourage that. I just wanted everyone to know the bullshit operation being run by the premier "comic book journalism" site.

(Where's my "Actually, it's about ethics in comics journalism" movement? :awesome: #NotYourS.H.I.E.L.D.)
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
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gabe
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I think for shits and giggles it might be interesting to try and go above the mod who banned you and see what other staff think.

Maybe staff there is incredibly borked and the other guys don't appreciate the guy over reaching or something. If you have no intention on returning it wouldn't hurt to play devils advocate and see what happens :monster:
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
If that's honestly their banning policy, it should be challenged on the forums. If it's one mod's discretion, then it probably should be overturned. I don't think I've ever been on a forum where calling an author a "hack" is bashing or anything of the like and be punished with a friggin month. I mean mod'll overwhelming try to support each other, but there's got to be someone who agrees that this is bullshit.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
I think for shits and giggles it might be interesting to try and go above the mod who banned you and see what other staff think.

Maybe staff there is incredibly borked and the other guys don't appreciate the guy over reaching or something. If you have no intention on returning it wouldn't hurt to play devils advocate and see what happens :monster:

It was actually an admin who banned me. I know which one did it, but I'm not sure which one I was talking with in my complaint.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
We're doing the Iceman talk in this thread now, jazz.

Anyway, forgot to mention, I got this b.s. boilerplate response to my last message:

That comment you referenced was unfortunately missed at the time and the
damage is already done.  Had we caught it, or if any conscientious users
had bothered to report it, it most certainly would have been dealt with.

However, none of what you've said excuses rude behavior, which is what you
were banned for.  As we said, criticism is welcome but rude & insulting
behavior is not.

Take care.

-- CBR Administration Staff
 

Lex

Administrator
That's the best way to infuriate though, slightly tweaked stock responses which are transparent. This admin is good at being a cunt :monster:
 
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