They downloaded a computer program, to save Weiss. Everything after that happened because they thought it was Weiss' desire.
I'm aware of that, but thats not my point. The fact Deepground went along with Hojo's plan
at all shows that the organization isn't a rational player. If Weiss is able to command Deepground to essentially kill themselves and the planet on his orders, why do you somehow believe they can be negotiated and convinced to save the planet at the behest of an organization they would feel no desire to obey?
Threat of death and the impending end of the world does not frighten them. So assuming they'd be rational players willing to put aside their differences for their own sake flies in the face of DC which shows them doing the opposite.
Also Shinra exec don't know what the survivors of Deepgeound will do three yeats after their deaths and can't make a decision informed by it.
I know Shinra wouldn't know that, that's not my point in bringing it up. I'm bringing that up to show Deepground are not rational or pragmatic people that could be negotiated with. They don't fear death and only obey Weiss.
Genesis' capture is not the one and only time Deepground actually did a mission for Shinra. Rosso was trapped in Deepground all along, Weiss and Nero were prisoners between missions. The others were not treated that way because they don't all act that way. They got trapped for three years with the Restrictors dead and no contact from the outside and at the end of that hell, the Tsviets had complete control. This does not inform the situation from the very second the first Restrictors body hit the floor.
Past September of year 0007 and all the way to January of year 0008, Deepground soldiers are absent from the surface and obviously never utilized or shown during FFVII's core plot.
Likewise, Weiss and the rest of Deepground fail to escape or make a successful attempt at breaching security and opening the doors to the surface. For whatever undisclosed, and indeterminate reason, they did not free themselves manually and were trapped under ground entirely by the time Midgar was evacuated due to Meteor.
Either Shinra completely forgot about them, or some security protocol alerted Shinra that something was wrong and the inmates were running the asylum.
Just because people were being thrown into Deepground during the multiplayer plot, doesn't mean that stayed the case upon its end.
If that were true there would be no need for all the deception of the multiplayer storyline. There'd be no need for Weiss to die. He did because the conspiracy to overthrow the Restrictors was still limited to the Tsviets at the time. That everyone in DG already valued stopped valueing their own life, a chance to fight or freedom from the second they arrived in Deepground is not proven.
The deception is necessary because at the time of Multiplayer mode's story, the Restrictors are still alive. By the time FFVII's disc 3 plot happens, the Restrictors are dead and the Tsviets are in charge.
So if Shinra were to open the doors and try to deploy Deepground soldiers, they'd find Weiss in charge rather than Restrictor.
And it's evident the direction Deepground goes in once Weiss and the Tsviets are calling the shots.
They can digitise their concious. That's it. They cannot do anything with it without Shelke or Weiss help. Otherwise Hojo wouldn't need Nero to begin with. Shelke and Weiss can freely surf the internet as a conscious entity. What security protocols exists in computer have little effect because nothing like them has ever been needed to defend against.
But again, if Hojo and Lucrecia show the ability to digitize one's consciousness in the network and Shelke and Weiss are known as masters of that technology who go above and beyond its capabilities (that's the reason Shelke is made a Tsviet after all), it doesn't take genius level protocols or incredible intellect to simply limit their access to the absolute minimum. Instead Shelke has free reign to access the terminal, allowing her to essentially roam the network.
Again, you claimed Shinra was somehow illiterate and ignorant of their own technology but Restrictor is standing right there watching her use it, and authorizing her access to it. Hojo and Lucrecia demonstrate that clearly *some* individuals in the company were at least aware of its potential. So no, it's obviously a massive oversight on their part. Shinra created it, so if they can't even fathom the limits of its abilities in the wrong hands, may be giving it to what are essentially their prisoner soldier force was a bad idea
Most of Deepground died in the three years between FFVII and DOC. Rosso makes that clear. They spent every single day killing each other and the fanatics survived. No new recruits and no supervision from Shinra came after FFVII. That does not tell us why they were still sending good men down to be trained there during FFVII if the project had been written off entirely.
How do you know individuals were sent to Deepground during the period of FFVII that mattered in relation to Sephiroth's time camped in the Northern Crater? When Meteor is summoned and the Northern Crater is revealed as Sehiroth's base, Weiss is pretty much in control of Deepground at that point.
Whatever they used to get him to do the occasional mission for them like go after Genesis. =P
Well that would be Restrictor and the chips in their heads. So that wouldn't even be an option by the chronology of events in FFVII. In CC, Restrictors are still running the place.
You make it sound like they had never before gotten him to do anything when they clearly had. For that matter, Weiss and Nero weren't the only ones ever sent out -- in the multiplayer mode, Rosso makes the point that others get to go outside sometimes, but not her.
Well of course they made him comply. Thats what Restrictor was for!
But they're all or mostly dead by the time Sephiroth summons Meteor and Midgar has to be evacuated.
We also know that Shelke was taken from the custody of the Turks and regular Shin-Ra troops on the surface by Deepground SOLDIERs.
I'm not saying they never were allowed to the surface. Just that they weren't allowed on the surface without supervision because they're obviously dangerous. And they certainly weren't shown to be free roaming during FFVII. I'm pretty sure that was part of the reason behind the Multiplayer mode story in the first place. To show that the reason why the Tsviets weren't present during VII's plot was because they were busy overthrowing Restrictor and through means outsode their control, we're kept trapped and unable to leave.
We don't know at precisely what point the Restrictors were all dead, but even if they were already gone at the critical point (i.e. when Sephiroth's barrier around the crater was broken), if it were within the allotted three days before Weiss died, that alone may have been sufficient motivation for everyone.
Well we know the Restrictors were finally toppled around the time Meteor was bearing down on Midgar, because a little before that time frame, the timeline for FFVII states Weiss secured allegiance from all of Deepground Soldier and then after that Meteor traps them under ground.
So around the time this hypothetical would take place, Weiss is running the Deepground or very close to running the place. Which means he would be the one most influential.
As for convincing him through leveraging the cure to his time-limit virus... Maybe. I could see that working 50-50, because on one hand he obviously wanted to live and cure it. But on the other hand, the multiplayer mode story shows he gave absolutely no fucks killing Restrictor when threatened with the virus. So would that be enough to buy his loyalty? Maybe.
But that still doesn't answer what happens when the dust settles. Once again, its
Supernatural logic. Swap one world-ending catastrophe for another.