Ending..

Julian Kedives

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Jack
#1
In the OG ending we see Aerith in the alley with her eyes closed . I was wondering if the entire game was a " vision of future events" that she forshadowed. What do you think?
 
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Mr. Ite
#5
That's why i'd like to know if Nomura,kojima and kitase planned this already in 1997,that would make perfect sense and i am not including the remake.
This was definitely not planned back in 1997. Every Final Fantasy before X-2 was a standalone product, with no thoughts to expand or elaborate on any of them beyond that. That's the cold hard truth.

Going by what they decided to do with the Remake (a story idea that is, at most, 15 years old) it could be that Holy's last flash caused time to revert back to an arbitrary point (Aeris chillin' in an alleyway) and imbued the caster with the knowledge of what happened from that point until the flash. (As to why it reverted to that point, several months before Aeris cast it, my only answer is a long, squeaky farting noise.)

The Remake's opening and the OG's ending are more similar than the Remake's opening and OG's opening, as Aeris doesn't have her eyes closed during the OG's opening. It's not a huge stretch to think that there's a connection there, in regards to what the Remake is.

As for what Aeris's face means during the ending of the OG? My reading of it was as allegory, to say that the ones we love are never truly gone, that their impact is immense, beyond mortality, and that the culmination of Holy's power was just one of the ways in which the living who carry her can feel her love persist after death. I prefer that reading, but ymmv.

I'm not sure if I like the idea of my past 23 years to be a dream.
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Julian Kedives

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Jack
#6
In fact i am not considering the remake i am only refering to OG. I know it was a stand alone product but , anyway ,what if the ending was an aerith vision ?
 

looneymoon

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Rishi
#7
It is a narrative callback.

The last thing Cloud says is "The promised land... I think I can meet her there."

The game then takes you back to the point where you meet Aerith for the first time.

Whether or not this is intentional, it's why I stand by OG FF7 as being a hopeful ending. I enjoy the fact that it gives room for a healthy amount of cynicism though.
 
#10
I'm sitting here laughing at the idea of Square giving a clear straightforward explanation for anything.
But also, when the creators of any work of fiction have made the deliberate choice to leave the ending ambiguous, that's what they want it to be. Why would they ever want to "explain" it any further than they have already? Such an explanation would close down all the alternative interpretations which they deliberately left open? Does humanity survive or doesn't it? Is humanity worthy of survival? YOU decide.
 

Julian Kedives

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Jack
#11
I'm sitting here laughing at the idea of Square giving a clear straightforward explanation for anything.
But also, when the creators of any work of fiction have made the deliberate choice to leave the ending ambiguous, that's what they want it to be. Why would they ever want to "explain" it any further than they have already? Such an explanation would close down all the alternative interpretations which they deliberately left open? Does humanity survive or doesn't it? Is humanity worthy of survival? YOU decide.
Indeed. I was only wondering if they ever released anything about that question (and i am not refering to the remake) . Suddenly everybody started to gain interest in the OG ending cause of the remake. I dont remember many ppl worrying about the "aerith eyes opened/eyes closed so i asked myself "did i miss anything about the old ff7 game?" 😂
 

Wol

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Dawn Warrior
#12
I'm sitting here laughing at the idea of Square giving a clear straightforward explanation for anything.
But also, when the creators of any work of fiction have made the deliberate choice to leave the ending ambiguous, that's what they want it to be. Why would they ever want to "explain" it any further than they have already? Such an explanation would close down all the alternative interpretations which they deliberately left open? Does humanity survive or doesn't it? Is humanity worthy of survival? YOU decide.
I do agree on that when it comes to consequences, but not when the how everything happened isnt explained it. Thats why the ending feels random, as fuck. Everything is cryptic, not just a part of it, you don't know the rules set so nothing makes sense, its all simply introduced and lucky you if you enjoy it or not.

Ending is so fucking bad.
 
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Jack
#13
I do agree on that when it comes to consequences, but not when the how everything happened isnt explained it. Thats why the ending feels random, as fuck. Everything is cryptic, not just a part of it, you don't know the rules set so nothing makes sense, its all simply introduced and lucky you if you enjoy it or not.

Ending is so fucking bad.
Totally agree
 

looneymoon

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Rishi
#14
I mean, humanity's gonna fuckin merc itself in 50 years unless we smarten up and do something about how we treat our environment.

It doesn't feel really random. That's the real life fear that drives the conflict in the story. The game isn't exactly subtle about speaking directly to that issue. It wants you to reflect on your own complicity in this future.
 
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Mr. Ite
#15
I mean, humanity's gonna fuckin merc itself in 50 years unless we smarten up and do something about how we treat our environment.

It doesn't feel really random. That's the real life fear that drives the conflict in the story. The game isn't exactly subtle about speaking directly to that issue. It wants you to reflect on your own complicity in this future.
I’m with you there. Too many people seem to miss that messaging completely. I’ve been told — somewhere here on the boards — that I’m projecting my environmental politics into something that’s ‘just supposed to be a game.’ smh (can’t remember the exact quote, it was over three months ago so Remake posts have loooong buried it)
 

looneymoon

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Rishi
#16
I’m with you there. Too many people seem to miss that messaging completely. I’ve been told — somewhere here on the boards — that I’m projecting my environmental politics into something that’s ‘just supposed to be a game.’ smh (can’t remember the exact quote, it was over three months ago so Remake posts have loooong buried it)
ah yes... the story about a group of eco terrorists fighting against the embodiment of neo-fascist, unchecked, corporate capitalism is completely apolitical.
 
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