FFVII: Ever Crisis Announced

[Obsidian Fire]

The best part about Price of Freedom isn't in Price of Freedom. It's in the track A Moment of Courtesy. The track that plays when Zack and Cloud meet for the first time and instantly hit it off. It's a remix of Price of Freedom in a major key and a lot more lighthearted.

 

[KindOfBlue]

*insert 20+ “Me? Gongaga” memes here*

 

[Smoothie King]

At least "Melodies of Life" is amazing in FFIX, anyway. I think I'm happy the original FF7 avoided a pop ballad though.

It's the *one* aspect of FF (but really JRGPs) that you can't argue away as innocent shmaltz. I'll give Square credit for actively integrating the first two into the actual storyline of FFVIII and IX respectively, though.

I'm conflicted, mainly because Eyes on Me, Melodies of Life and Suteki Da Ne are all songs that I love, but that love is directly caused (not correlated) by my love of the games and the memories I have of them. If Eyes on Me was a random pop song that had no affiliation with FFVIII, I would just think it's sappy trash.

So how do I reconcile that with the fact that all of these songs are songs that I listen to, like, a lot, and have the ability to make me tear up? I guess it speaks to the power of the games more than anything else. But I will be the first to admit, "insert generic pop song with lyrics *here* because we have to" is not a terribly creative choice to make. It's the definition of derivative. I guarantee you they will put another one in there for Part II, and I just hope that Uematsu is the guy who composes it. As was said already, Hollow wasn't a great song but it was *good* and fit well with the end credits. The version you hear when walking around with Aerith was great, though. Really nailed home the feeling of walking around those dirty ass slums.

 

[looneymoon]

I wish I liked FFXV more than I did, because I am a giant Florence and the Machine stan and I was surprised/pleased they got her for the obligatory pop song for that game.

Anyways I liked Hollow for Remake a lot. Save for the dude's vocals, they sounded hella dadrock dated. Then again, a typical grunge vocal is pretty appropriate for FF7, so I don't hate it.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

So how do I reconcile that with the fact that all of these songs are songs that I listen to, like, a lot, and have the ability to make me tear up? I guess it speaks to the power of the games more than anything else.

How would you feel about other components of the game's design if you had encountered them separately from the context of the game, though? Some folks who love the game don't necessarily love 90s anime sensibilities or turn-based combat.

 

[Smoothie King]

How would you feel about other components of the game's design if you had encountered them separately from the context of the game, though? Some folks who love the game don't necessarily love 90s anime sensibilities or turn-based combat.

Hmm, that's a good question. It's so hard to view each aspect in isolation, mainly because they were all introduced to me at the same time through FFVII back in 97. This may not be accurate to others, but it feels like those Final Fantasy games have a unique design aesthetic, inspired by anime but never fully plunging into overt anime tropes. I feel they are "Final Fantasy" first, and anime/turn based/sappy pop songs collection second.

I don't mind anime. In fact, there's a bunch I like; Samurai Champloo is one of my favorite shows ever, but even that isn't overt anime stuff. A show like Seven Deadly Sins or Dragon Ball to me is just... no.

And in terms of turn based combat, FFVII single handedly turned me into a fan, but like the series itself I feel like I have evolved as well. I wouldn't want to play a big budget, AAA game with turn based combat. But in a game where it fits the design aesthetic, absolutely. Something like I Am Sestuna or the upcoming Eiyuden Chronicles, hell yeah.

I, uh, hope I answered your question.

 

[Sephiroth Crescent]

A show like Seven Deadly Sins or Dragon Ball to me is just... no.

May be a slightly bit super off-topic but... why not?
I've never thought of somebody not liking Dragon Ball (with subs, that is).
So what is it that you've got against kid Gokū and Bulma?

 

[Smoothie King]

May be a slightly bit super off-topic but... why not?
I've never thought of somebody not liking Dragon Ball (with subs, that is).
So what is it that you've got against kid Gokū and Bulma?

It's just way too over the top for me. Can't get into it.

 

[Sephiroth Crescent]

It's just way too over the top

Well, there's in-universe explanations to most stuff... but yeah... IT IS.
A kid punching dinosaurs, robots, and furries is not something you can see every day.

 

[Nandemoyasan]

... (views trailer)

...Ok take my money.

Edit: But more than that, I guess this is SE's way of saying "Oh right uh, the episodic thing is bugging people, sorry about that. Here's the WHOLE SHEBANG, now we can do our episodic AAA thing over here and everybodyshappywhaddayasay"

 

[KindOfBlue]

... (views trailer)

...Ok take my money.

Edit: But more than that, I guess this is SE's way of saying "Oh right uh, the episodic thing is bugging people, sorry about that. Here's the WHOLE SHEBANG, now we can do our episodic AAA thing over here and everybodyshappywhaddayasay"

I think Ever Crisis is episodic though? Either way, I don’t know if there’s enough people still hung up over Remake being split into parts to matter much since each “episode” is a full game in itself anyways so I don’t know if “episodic” is even the right way to describe Remake

 

[Tetsujin]

Yeah Ever Crisis is proper episodic, they said there'll be new episodes each month, You'll likely have to pay for each one except the first.

 

[Wol]

Inb4 Ever Crisis ends up being the true and most faithful remake of the original.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Yeah Ever Crisis is proper episodic, they said there'll be new episodes each month, You'll likely have to pay for each one except the first.

You don't pay for the episodes, it's free to play.

The game is a gacha, so you pay for items and equipment.

 

[Shademp]

Official English site's note on the topic, just to include a source.


Same on the JP site

[価格]アイテム課金型（基本プレイ無料）

Google translate:
[Price] Item charge type (free to play)

 

[Odysseus]

Did FFXV mobile have gacha elements?

 

[KindOfBlue]

Inb4 Ever Crisis ends up being the true and most faithful remake of the original.

Anything too redundant though and you might as well just play the original

 

[Makoeyes987]

You mean the Pocket Edition?

Pocket Edition had you pay for chapters, and then they re-released it all together.

 

[Odysseus]

Couldn't remember what it was called. I think I'd prefer paying for the chapters like that then gacha shit personally.

 

[oty]

I guess the (hopefully) inevitable Console/PC port will still keep the Gacha Elements?

 

[cold_spirit]

Learning that there'll be micro-transactions has cooled me off a bit. I was hoping it'd be like FFXV Pocket Edition where you either pay for chapters or buy the whole game upfront. Hopefully Ever Crisis takes inspiration from Dissidia Opera Omnia, which I'm told has generally acceptable micro-transactions, but I dislike the very nature of them.

 

[ultima espio]

I think it'll be like the FF Dimensions, you'll get the first episode free then buy the next ones as they come out.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I think it'll be like the FF Dimensions, you'll get the first episode free then buy the next ones as they come out.

It's probably going to be more like Dissidia Opera Omnia. Taking into account the observations Shademp made, SE's site applies that same description for purchases to Dissidia Opera Omnia as they've applied to Ever Crisis -- but not to FFXV Pocket Edition, which was released/purchased like FFDimensions.

 

[Roundhouse]

Micro-transactions? Now I'm far less interested, ugh.

 

[Wol]

If the game rewards the player enough to make the 1-3 casual pulls of the week, and it makes the main content viable to be completed without extra perks, it's not a problem.

Gacha games can become one if you are the impulsive collector that needs to have everything, otherwise it's just a side feature.