Good things about DoC

[Althea]

I liked Dirge...the story was a bit weak though, the Hojo controlling Weiss thing was a bit random imo :/

However, I loved the CG scences they were beautifully done. I liked the FPS style gameplay of the game..and the challenge of it, too.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Vincent's personality did come off as somewhat... apathetic. I mean, his line of "Guess I have no choice, time to save the world" was just like.. wat? You asshole, do you not WANT to save the feckin' world? Or at least that's how I reacted. It totally clashed with his lines on the Highwind after he returned from wherever he went on that last night, when he asserted that he might seem cold but he really did care.

 

[xskirx]

And Cid/Vin enthusiast.[/s]

I hear you there. :]

Well, here goes.

This is my first post, although I've been lurking around this site a bit, I just never really got around to making an account and actually using it.

Sooo, I like DOC.

Actually, I love it. I know it was super lame and even kind of terrible at times, but I still loved it in all it's lame terribleness. :]

Bad things:
Yuffie being a klutz and some totally irrelevant cutscenes, both of which wasted a lot of time.

I felt like there was a lot of filler stuff, and it kind of annoyed me, but I'm a huge Vincent fan and I put up with it.

End bad stuff.

I loved the part where Vincent realized Weiss was Hojo and he was all
"...You. You. *eyes narrow*"
It made me squirm. x]

Cid, hell yeah. He's such a Southern bastard, ya gotta love 'im.

And the ending, it was very happy making.

It's so full of hope now that Vincent knows what was really going on with Lucrecia and doesn't have to be all broody and betrayed. :]

Well, anyway, that's all I have to say for now.

P.S. I know I messed up the quote I posted. D: Sorry about that.

And another thing,

go Vincent for using a cell phone. :]

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

And the ending, it was very happy making.

It's so full of hope now that Vincent knows what was really going on with Lucrecia and doesn't have to be all broody and betrayed. :]

If Cloud and Vincent both man up and stop being all broody and angsty, won't the world come to an end?

 

[xskirx]

If Cloud and Vincent both man up and stop being all broody and angsty, won't the world come to an end?

You're probably right... XD

I guess at least it'd be a happy end?...

 

[Mantichorus]

Vincent's personality did come off as somewhat... apathetic. I mean, his line of "Guess I have no choice, time to save the world" was just like.. wat? You asshole, do you not WANT to save the feckin' world? Or at least that's how I reacted. It totally clashed with his lines on the Highwind after he returned from wherever he went on that last night, when he asserted that he might seem cold but he really did care.

I always took it he was being somewhat sarcastic when he said that. Or possibly ironic.

I do admit to making FOXHOUND jokes about the Tsviets.

Really? There were similarities? I mean, OK one of the villains has a faux-British accent... and one is all muscles and carrying a vulcan cannon... and one is a woman with an Eastern European/Russian accent... and OK you may have a point.

 

[Dark and Divine]

I mean, OK one of the villains has a faux-British accent... and one is all muscles and carrying a vulcan cannon... and one is a woman with an Eastern European/Russian accent... and OK you may have a point.

And their leader fights bare-chested and has hair in a light colour.

 

[Mantichorus]

And their leader fights bare-chested and has hair in a light colour.

That too. Plus there's a lot of calling people brother...

 

[Strangelove]

Wierdos in bondage gear who cover their faces.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Snake could go up against the Tviets and it wouldn't seem particularly out of place at all, really.

 

[Mantichorus]

Wierdos in bondage gear who cover their faces.

...And both their mothers died giving birth to them...

 

[Strangelove]

Themed naming scheme for each unit (colours/animals).

Why not just steal everything from MGS, Square

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

And thus was born FFVII DoC 2: Sons of Genesis, featuring the all new Deadcell Monochromes! Also featuring Vincent only being playable for the first chapter or so before being replaced by a newly genetically altered Elena!

 

[Mantichorus]

And thus was born FFVII DoC 2: Sons of Genesis, featuring the all new Deadcell Monochromes! Also featuring Vincent only being playable for the first chapter or so before being replaced by a newly genetically altered Elena!

Naah, it'd be a resurrected Kadaj, for the scene where

Spoiler: MGS2 spoiler

Raiden is groped by the president, who's surprised he's a man

.

...Unless you have some really... interesting ideas about how was Elena', eh, "altered"?

But, I feel I have to say - there's a difference between DoC and MGS... Vincent doesn't repeat the last word said to him anywhere near as much as Snake/Raiden.

 

[Strangelove]

Last word!?

That's a Japanese tradition! You're got to put emphasis on the important things by parroting them back to the guy who just said it!

 

[Mantichorus]

To the guy... who just said it?

 

[Max Payne]

Vincent doesn't repeat the last word said to him anywhere near as much as Snake/Raiden.

Yeah, and Snake is, well was a much more interesting and less lame character. Raiden was too before he became the token superninja.

 

[Strangelove]

The guy? Off course to the guy who said it! Then maybe they'll explain it some more or something.

 

[Mantichorus]

Something...? Huh...

Yeah, and Snake is, well was a much more interesting and less lame character. Raiden was too before he became the token superninja.

I was following you until you inferred Raiden was once "less lame".

 

[looneymoon]

Raiden was a pretty cool guy. Haters gonna hate. I have not played MGS4 yet so no comment on ninja Raiden

On top of that, Rose was pretty damn entertaining too

edit: come to think of it, I don't think I really dislike any MGS character. huh.

 

[Max Payne]

Raiden was cool when he was just a dood caught up in some bullshit that he had no control over. Sure he was a pretty boy, but there's maybe 2 characters in japan that aren't.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

I hated Raiden initially due to his sudden and unannounced replacement of Snake (I went into MGS2 unspoiled the day after it came out and played non-stop from start to end in 15 hours). But he did grow on me, and in MGS2 his purpose of allowing people to see Snake and his role through new eyes really worked for me. Rose bored the shit out of me though As for Raiden's transformation in MGS4, I was ok with it. It gave us our token Superninja, but it was also someone familiar that I had come to care about. It worked for me. Well, not so much the part where he fought a unit of Frogs with no freaking arms, that was cheese, but still.

Oh, and going back to that comment I made about my marathon playthrough of MGS2, imagine getting to the bit where GW malfunctions and "Campbell" starts glitching and saying off the wall shit. When he told me "you've been playing a long time, just turn the game off now" I hadn't slept in about two full days and had eyes strain from playing so long, and thought I was hallucinating (once I reminded myself the game couldn't really be giving me advice).

 

[Max Payne]

I don't see how anyone can be ok with Raiden suddenly showing up as a ninja for no goddamn reason, with only his fucking head and spine left(forcing people to find out what happened to him in a goddamn PSN addon). Nor his sudden and unnecessary degeneration into a complete and total whiny prick, especially after MGS2's ending.

God I hate MGS4. But whatever, some people are ok with Kojima's retarded retcons and bullshit plot threads, and I can't fault them for that.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Raiden was always kind of a whiny prick. To be fair, the end of MGS2 was hopeful for Raiden getting over that, but take a look at what happened to him between games. Rose led him and the world to believe she lost their baby, left him to marry Campbell, and oh yeah his head and spine got removed and put into a robotic ninja body. I'd feel like being a whiny prick too after that kinda shit.

My biggest problem with MGS4 was Meryl winding up married to fucking Johnny of all people. I mean, dude, he's the guy who constantly has the shits. Wtf?

 

[Max Payne]

Raiden was always kind of a whiny prick. To be fair, the end of MGS2 was hopeful for Raiden getting over that, but take a look at what happened to him between games. Rose led him and the world to believe she lost their baby, left him to marry Campbell, and oh yeah his head and spine got removed and put into a robotic ninja body. I'd feel like being a whiny prick too after that kinda shit.

Yeah, and all of those things are just as stupid as what Raiden became.

My biggest problem with MGS4 was Meryl winding up married to fucking Johnny of all people. I mean, dude, he's the guy who constantly has the shits. Wtf?

BUT HE TOOK HIS MASK OFF AND IS ALL PRETTY, AND OH YEAH HE CAN SHOOT BETTER THAN AN ARMY OF SUPERSOLDIERS AND FIRE AN ANTI TANK RIFLE WITH ONE ARM. Meryl completely forgets Snake one minute then she's blubbering on him the next, then completely forgets him for the rest of the goddamn game, skips the relationship phase entirely, and marries Johnny of all people for no logical reason.

Fuck there's a bunch of dumb shit in MGS4.