NoenGaruth
That Guy With The Midgar Model
- AKA
- NoenGaruth, Stolz, Blitzwing, Ryoko Asakura, Judge Magister Gabranth, Col. Hans Landa, Itsuki Koizumi, Treize Khushrenada
Ok, well I remember that on ACF there was a good thread or two about Jenova, and considering I'm just so intruiged by the character I though its about time to get a new discussion going concerning theories, stringing together the facts and thoughts about if she'll have any influence on the future compilation titles (More specificaly whatever comes after Dirge).
So pretty much I'm starting with my speculations about her being a conscious being, who even tho is driven by instict to destroy can think for herself, and also that the form in the tank at Nibelheim is (minus the mutations) her true form.
First about her consciousness, now I recall many people believing Jenova is nothing more than a virus or mindless being, however her behaviour in the past and statements about being highly intelligent would state otherwise.
Take for example when she arrived on Gaia, she was able to trick the Cetra into beleiving she was their friend, then exploited their emotional weaknesses by portaying the image of lost loved ones then infecting them with a virus which mutated them into monsters.
Now generaly, this type of behaviour isn't the kind of thing you'd see animals doing on the discovery channnel, and certainly involves a level of manipulation beyond a creature that jut runs off instincts, so one must assume that all of the attorcities committed against the cetra were thought up and planned out by an active conciousness inside Jenova's head and she knew perfectly well what she was doing (and obviously didn't care).
But now skip ahead to present times and she's a braindead corpse since whatever the cetra did to seal her away must have taken out her conciousness (wether beign supressed or separated from her body) leaving behind an empty shell full of Jenova cells. Which now leads me to my point about her form.
The being in the tank at Nibelheim reactor is that of a beautiful woman with silver hair and green cat eyes (cept one is glowing red for reasons unknown). Now, I've heard many theories about this such as it being a form she mimiced at some point or something, however I firmly believe what we are seeing is the face of Jenova herself. The main point of reasoning is Sephiroth, who reatins a strong resemblance to this form meaning that it's hard coded into Jenova's genetic code, which I doubt would happen with just some mimiced form. However I do beleive that the various mutations on her body (tentacles, 'wings', boob eye etc.) are not part of her true form and simply the result of the cells running rampart in her body as there is no longer a strong will present within to control them (Similar in the way that the cells would dominate any human who was not strong enough to handle them), and continue to mutilate her body throughout FF7 (Birth, life, death, Synthesis) as its only a puppet of Sephiroth and still lacking a will of its own.
Course, even in the event that she was indeed a thinking being and really a woman with Silver hair and green cat eyes, her body is gone, her cells are inert and her conciousness/will is god knows where.
But knowing Square anything is possible and with the likelyhood of another title coming after Dirge of Cerberus, I'm wondering if they'd think to ressurect the orginal dark harbinger, as if you did away with her it would pretty much seal that "Ok, Sephiroth and Jenova are both dealt with for good" and give the compilation a sense of closure now that the evils which threated the world are both gone forever.
Peronaly I'm really hoping for something like this as I'm curious about a number of things:
1. How would she act/Present herself, perhapse a blood thristy psycho like Rosso or maybe a cold blooded killer like Sephiroth? (or even someone who likes to play kind and friendly to deceive their foes)
2. Her voice, whate would she sound like?
3. What would be her thoughts/feeling towards Sephiroth, they might never have actualy met but if she returned I'm sure she'd find out sooner or later that at some point she had a 'son'.
4. Does she give herself reasoning behind all the destruction, like having some goal which is achieved through the death and suffering of others? (She may simply just be driven to destroy everything, but I'm thinking if in her mind she's thought up an actual reason to kill wether it be to motivate her or give herself a sense of purpose).
Also given her past actions with the cetra, Itd be interesting to see her go up against Cloud as she'd have a field day with all the mess he's been through.
Overall my arguement here is she'd be alot more interesting than Square making up some new villian that pops up out of nowhere (Since in one way or another pretty much everything is her fault thus everyone has a score to settle with her).
So, thoughts people?
So pretty much I'm starting with my speculations about her being a conscious being, who even tho is driven by instict to destroy can think for herself, and also that the form in the tank at Nibelheim is (minus the mutations) her true form.
First about her consciousness, now I recall many people believing Jenova is nothing more than a virus or mindless being, however her behaviour in the past and statements about being highly intelligent would state otherwise.
Take for example when she arrived on Gaia, she was able to trick the Cetra into beleiving she was their friend, then exploited their emotional weaknesses by portaying the image of lost loved ones then infecting them with a virus which mutated them into monsters.
Now generaly, this type of behaviour isn't the kind of thing you'd see animals doing on the discovery channnel, and certainly involves a level of manipulation beyond a creature that jut runs off instincts, so one must assume that all of the attorcities committed against the cetra were thought up and planned out by an active conciousness inside Jenova's head and she knew perfectly well what she was doing (and obviously didn't care).
But now skip ahead to present times and she's a braindead corpse since whatever the cetra did to seal her away must have taken out her conciousness (wether beign supressed or separated from her body) leaving behind an empty shell full of Jenova cells. Which now leads me to my point about her form.
The being in the tank at Nibelheim reactor is that of a beautiful woman with silver hair and green cat eyes (cept one is glowing red for reasons unknown). Now, I've heard many theories about this such as it being a form she mimiced at some point or something, however I firmly believe what we are seeing is the face of Jenova herself. The main point of reasoning is Sephiroth, who reatins a strong resemblance to this form meaning that it's hard coded into Jenova's genetic code, which I doubt would happen with just some mimiced form. However I do beleive that the various mutations on her body (tentacles, 'wings', boob eye etc.) are not part of her true form and simply the result of the cells running rampart in her body as there is no longer a strong will present within to control them (Similar in the way that the cells would dominate any human who was not strong enough to handle them), and continue to mutilate her body throughout FF7 (Birth, life, death, Synthesis) as its only a puppet of Sephiroth and still lacking a will of its own.
Course, even in the event that she was indeed a thinking being and really a woman with Silver hair and green cat eyes, her body is gone, her cells are inert and her conciousness/will is god knows where.
But knowing Square anything is possible and with the likelyhood of another title coming after Dirge of Cerberus, I'm wondering if they'd think to ressurect the orginal dark harbinger, as if you did away with her it would pretty much seal that "Ok, Sephiroth and Jenova are both dealt with for good" and give the compilation a sense of closure now that the evils which threated the world are both gone forever.
Peronaly I'm really hoping for something like this as I'm curious about a number of things:
1. How would she act/Present herself, perhapse a blood thristy psycho like Rosso or maybe a cold blooded killer like Sephiroth? (or even someone who likes to play kind and friendly to deceive their foes)
2. Her voice, whate would she sound like?
3. What would be her thoughts/feeling towards Sephiroth, they might never have actualy met but if she returned I'm sure she'd find out sooner or later that at some point she had a 'son'.
4. Does she give herself reasoning behind all the destruction, like having some goal which is achieved through the death and suffering of others? (She may simply just be driven to destroy everything, but I'm thinking if in her mind she's thought up an actual reason to kill wether it be to motivate her or give herself a sense of purpose).
Also given her past actions with the cetra, Itd be interesting to see her go up against Cloud as she'd have a field day with all the mess he's been through.
Overall my arguement here is she'd be alot more interesting than Square making up some new villian that pops up out of nowhere (Since in one way or another pretty much everything is her fault thus everyone has a score to settle with her).
So, thoughts people?
