SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

[LunarTarotGirl]

The devs haven't done nearly enough to dissuade people of this. It's believed by a large number of people who are shipping-neutral. And like @LunarTarotGirl said, if the dream date has the intention you claim, then it largely back fired. I've said previously that the whole dream date section should have simply been cut from the game. The events of Advent Children don't really help this case either.

Again, I don't really have issues with Cloud actually being in a love triangle, I just don't want Tifa to look like a doormat.

I wasn't talking about the dream date in the context of CT. But of the devs not actually answering much about CA while letting CA fans have room to hope for the future.

CT is its own thing. The dream date is not about CT but about CA specifically. And Z is in the background in that church and his role now is brought into question.

I think the dream date is a beautiful scene personally.

But...

My issue with the dream date is specifically it adds an element of Aerith not knowing what kind of like she feels for Cloud. This is something that goes against what she has said this entire 27 years including Lifestream White.

Meaning they're definitely going to need to explain this adequately. So instead of clarifying what was already there all along we now ALSO need to go into her actual feelings for both Cloud and Zack in terms of why did she say she liked Cloud now if it's not true. As I have pointed out she says she at first saw Zack in Cloud but now is interested in him. And now they're going back on that. Making her seem pretty confident in her feelings in the gondola date, then confused in the dream date. Which.. okay ?? Why do it that way? They also need to resolve the love triangle they just set up with Zack by having him hear from Marlene Aerith loves Cloud now.

Which is fine. But with such a short amount of time explaining that adequately is going to be tough plus having a moment where Aerith realizes this PLUS establishing her relationship with Zack after not actually showing it the entire trilogy and most of the compilation. It's just a lot. It's complex and they could have just clarified what was already there from before not added to it.

Also as I said it doesn't actually give concrete answers for CA.

As a farewell scene it's very beautiful and sweet.

As story set up it basically gives more questions than answers and makes things more confusing.

CT has had development since ACC and since Remake has added a lot more. ZA has not. ZA has been hidden in the background and is denied by Aerith herself currently with her admitting she's searching for Cloud, she likes Cloud but wonders what kind of like etc. And Zack currently has no idea what is happening. Meaning a lot more needs to happen to make everything that leads to their resolution feel earned.

So basically we'll see.

Also I don't think it needs to be said but I'm not anti ZA. I would be very happy with a ZA reunion. But I do have my gripes on how it's been handled so far.

 

[lyingbanana]

Think about it, but to this day, talking about the most important relationship in game is prohibited in most spaces. You cannot talk about CT in reddit, or in forums - or it's actually really hard to. And I'm not talking about shipping posts, but anything that is related to them is just forbidden talk mostly on the net outside of shipping spaces. That's how bad it is. And I really do think it's unfair. So "wah but CAs will be sad?" yeah I'm sorry but I only care about my CA friends, the rest, not so much.

This is one of my biggest gripes with the general fandom, you cant even say that Cloud wanted to be noticed by Tifa as his reason to wanting to join Soldier (and we are TOLD in the OG and in 2,000 Gil to become a hero) without people going "he wanted to be noticed by everyone or he wanted to be like Sephiroth". Which yes to the latter and mistranslation of the former.

It usually turns into a love triangle barrage of opinions when its established lore.