The Genesis Sequel

[wayfarer]

Your thoughts on the sequel that'll circle around genesis. I was wondering should you be able to play as genesis? that'd be cool for the sake of flipping the tables. You'd be the misunderstood anti-hero who has to fight cloud and avalanche. What'd be cool is if when you're playing the game you think you know his agenda but then it flips on you in the end. Kinda like the movie Memento.

 

[Tetsujin]

Genesis should not be the main character and I don't think he will be in any case.
...but I wonder what it'd be like if he joined the party...

 

[Masamune]

There's been talk of Genesis "protecting the planet" and "reclaiming his honour", which people assume will see him as a main character or a supporting one. But I beg to differ. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And let's not forget the ominous glint in his eye when he took off with Weiss at the end of DoC. That's either a red herring by SE, or Genesis will be clashing heads with Cloud & co in the not so distant future.

 

[kunoichi]

The more I think about it nowadays the more I dislike the idea of having a genesis game and especially with him in lead. That's all we need, another misunderstood anti-hero. If anything he should stay on the side lines, maybe get involved when needed, not just stuck in there like some characters that they like to do that with.

 

[Countess Ariadne]

I wouldn't play it. A friend already forced me to play Bujingai before. It was painful.

Besides, who/what would be the enemy? (I guess it would be pretty neat if you actually fought AVALANCHE.)

 

[Max Payne]

[quote author=Countess Ariadne link=topic=488.msg16251#msg16251 date=1234206287]
I wouldn't play it. A friend already forced me to play Bujingai before. It was painful.

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH SOMEONE REMEMBERS THAT GAME BESIDES ME?

You have my sympathy.

 

[Restless]

I tend to think that by "saving the Planet", Genesis believes he must destroy humankind. Thus, by leaving only the animals/creatures, the world will no longer be in danger of a stupid stunt (like with Shinra, or Weiss, or Sephiroth, or etc). And I sure as hell don't want to play as him. I like him as a character, but I don't think I could stand going through the story as him.

However, I'm always wondering who we would play as. It should be someone connected to him; Vincent was connected to Weiss (albeit, we never learned about this until the end), Cloud to Sephiroth (in AC), the Turks to Shinra, Zack to FFVII altogether. But what about Genesis? I have doubts about Cloud; he is shown to finally be at peace with himself, and he really doesn't have much of a connection with Genesis. The only characters that could possibly work would the (current) Turks (and Rufus, I guess), but we all know what happened last time an FFVII Compilation shooting game was produced.
Guns could be avoided well enough, though, if they were given other weapons to use. Plus, maybe the BC Turks would return, finally get official names, and Tifa's cat should totally come back. It'll be 20 years old or something, but it'd be there.

 

[Tetsujin]

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[quote author=Countess Ariadne link=topic=488.msg16251#msg16251 date=1234206287]
I wouldn't play it. A friend already forced me to play Bujingai before. It was painful.

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH SOMEONE REMEMBERS THAT GAME BESIDES ME?

You have my sympathy.
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I actually own the game.

 

[Strangelove]

I actually own the game and didn't think it was that bad (Gameplay-wise, anyway.)

 

[Cthulhu]

A sequel has been confirmed, then? Where who what when then?

 

[Makoeyes987]

Not confirmed, but pretty inevitable and decided, with the secret ending of DC that's the most recent FFVII game in continuity.

 

[SOLDIERis1337]

When I heard that ACC was going to have a new 20 minute film at the end taking place a year after Dirge, my first thought was that it would set up FF VII-2 or whatever the new game with Genesis will be called.

Hopefully it sheds some new light on the future of the compilation.

 

[Countess Ariadne]

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I actually own the game and didn't think it was that bad (Gameplay-wise, anyway.)
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It's not the worst game I've ever played or anything, but it was... really bland? It just seemed like a Devil May Cry ripoff with bamboo.

But I do wonder if ACC will have anything Genesis-related.

 

[Max Payne]

Painfully average is what I'd call it.

And I just don't like Gackt at all.

 

[Nocturne]

I wouldn't play it. A friend already forced me to play Bujingai before. It was painful.

Actually I thought it was quite good. It was a little bland, and the story wasnt anything good at all, but the gameplay was fun. Running on walls and getting into some of the actual sword fights were pretty fun.


About the game featuring Genesis. I kind of agree that you will be fighting him in some way, shape, or form. Im thinking he will try to eradicate humanity for the sake of the planet.

 

[ForceStealer]

I never expected him to a be a good guy. Its true that his character hadn't really been developed by DC's secret ending, but he certainly didn't have the look of a good guy.

I would be fine (and have always assumed) that his quest to protect the Planet would in fact be evil, however, I do hope that its something a little more inventive than Seymour's "kill everyone to protect them/the planet" approach.

 

[Nocturne]

I get more of the vibe that he wasnt a good guy, but not really evil either. More that he kind of goes on his own and takes things into his own hands regardless of being seen as good or evil

 

[OWA-2]

IMO S-E is taking too long to release this game.
Instead of making the sequel right away, they decided to create two other spin-offs(CC and ACC) that took years to be made. And after those years, we still know shit about what Genesis want to do after DoC.

[quote author=Restless link=topic=488.msg16302#msg16302 date=1234210492]I tend to think that by "saving the Planet", Genesis believes he must destroy humankind. Thus, by leaving only the animals/creatures, the world will no longer be in danger of a stupid stunt (like with Shinra, or Weiss, or Sephiroth, or etc). And I sure as hell don't want to play as him. I like him as a character, but I don't think I could stand going through the story as him.

However, I'm always wondering who we would play as. It should be someone connected to him; Vincent was connected to Weiss (albeit, we never learned about this until the end), Cloud to Sephiroth (in AC), the Turks to Shinra, Zack to FFVII altogether. But what about Genesis? I have doubts about Cloud; he is shown to finally be at peace with himself, and he really doesn't have much of a connection with Genesis. The only characters that could possibly work would the (current) Turks (and Rufus, I guess), but we all know what happened last time an FFVII Compilation shooting game was produced.
Guns could be avoided well enough, though, if they were given other weapons to use. Plus, maybe the BC Turks would return, finally get official names, and Tifa's cat should totally come back. It'll be 20 years old or something, but it'd be there.[/quote]

So, your idea for a new game, with a new plot, is rehashing the story of BC?

 

[Restless]

@OWA-2 Not exactly. By Turks, I meant either Reno, Rude, Tseng, or Elena being the playable character with the others as side-characters. Depending on the direction the game would take, it can focus on many different aspects and relationships. With BC, no character had much of a backstory; they were all optional, all more of a self-insert, remained undeveloped with no official name. If they were to appear again in the Compilation, I would by no means want to play as them or have them get a large role. It's just something to think about; something centering around a Turk would probably reference the others at some point. And the cat thing is just because I'm a cat person...I find it interesting that Tifa owned a cat. ;D

I have high doubts that the Turks will even become prominant in another title, anyway. It's just that no character has any connection to Genesis, except for one of them or Cloud. Even then, we're only shown that Tseng has any idea about his existance. Reno and Rude were minor in CC, and Elena wasn't even a Turk until FFVII. Cloud always could fight against Genesis, but I'd hope the connection between Genesis and Zack could be brought up. I guess I just feel like Cloud has had closure, and bringing him up again would be overdoing it.

But, no, I'm not rehashing BC. It may seem like it from brief descriptions, but I have thought of a few ideas. They're just complex, and center around one character each. Having an RPG like BC for the next installment would make it fall flatter than DoC. In the end, the next installment will feature a popular character. That's what happens. It just depends on who SE will choose.

 

[ForceStealer]

Well if Genesis does indeed turn out to be evil, if Cloud learns what happened between him and Zack he, as Zack's "living legacy" would probably feel obliged to stop him at least in Zack's honor.

But being the all-around good guy he is, Cloud would probably fight anyone threatening people/planet as long as he knows what he's fighting for.

 

[Max Payne]

They're basically a part of the WRO now, so it is their job to squash shit like that.

 

[OWA-2]

[quote author=Restless link=topic=488.msg16402#msg16402 date=1234228420]It's just something to think about; something centering around a Turk would probably reference the others at some point.[/quote]

But that's exactly what BC did. We had Elena showing up, Rude's love story, Tseng's side story, Reno's side story, etc.
BC was a game centered around all the Turks, not just the playable ones.

Doing that again, while repeating the formula of "villain who tries to destroy the human race to save the planet from them"(remember Fuhito?), would be a big rehash IMO.


And I think there are other characters with more connection to Genesis than... The friggin Turks! I mean, they worked in the same company as him, and tried to get him when he run away, as part of they job.
I cannot see a big connection here, really.

Now to the characters I think that could have a link with Genesis:
Cloud: Genesis was at Nibelheim during the incident, and he even told Sephiroth about Jenova. If Cloud learn about that, he could think that Genesis was the responsible for Sephiroth's rampage and for the start of his madness. Then Cloud would seek revenge.
Shelke: I know that most people aren't very fond of her, but she is the only Colored Tsviet still alive(with exception of Nero/Weiss). And that makes her the only main character with a direct connection with Genesis... Because she was injected with Genesis' genes, and therefore, is one of his "hellspawns". Not to mention that she does have a big connection with two of his allies too(Nero and Weiss).

IMHO those two have much more chance of being the next main-character, instead of a group of people who already had an entire game about them.

 

[Max Payne]

The Turks should only play a side role as they did in FF7.

I don't give enough of a shit about them for there to be a large focus on them in the next title.

And I agree with OWA-2, they're taking way too fucking long to tie this up for my tastes.

 

[Restless]

It's a rehash if you think of it like that. My thoughts follow a different route; a bit hard to explain. I'm not necessarily talking about the BC reappearing, nor playing any part (hence, reference). I'm talking about a major Turk getting a game, Zack or Vincent style. I'm aware of their stories in BC, but it wasn't the amount of coverage a character would recieve with their own game.

Of course there are characters with connections. Cloud is probably who they'll go with, though if he doesn't learn about Zack's connection with Genesis then it'd be...strange. But Shelke? I understand she has the connection, but I doubt SE would ever make a story centered around her. Far too little of a fanbase and too many people who'd be pissed off if she was the playable character. So, which character have a large enough fanbase to even be considered? Vincent's been used, Cait Sith has a small fanbase and was used (to an extent), and (from what I've heard), Barret has a pretty small fanbase as well. I'm not sure about Cid. People like him, I just don't know to what extent.

 

[Max Payne]

There shouldn't be a focus on just one character anyway.