This just in: The Love Triangle Debate- over

Wow, a flamer already? And I certainly did read the caption under the date scene. They were specifying two different pairings for Cloud. That was my whole point. I never said that Tifa and Cloud were never in a relationship. In fact, I believe that they probably were at one point (depending on how you play the game). But regardless of the outcome you got, they still showed plenty of love for each other. But you seem to be completely ignoring the fact that Aeris was under the same category as Tifa. In fact, she even came before Tifa on the page. They are obviously recognising the love triangle. That is the whole point.

Yes, any action towards pairing Cloud with Aeris that you take on the first disk will not matter at the end of the game. However, this does not mean that Aeris can be completely discounted from the love triangle, causing Tifa, by default, to be Cloud’s only main love interest. She is still very much a part of the love triangle, which is much of the reason why the debate is still continuing. She is still sentient, and comments in Lifestream Black and White that she still has feelings for Cloud even after death. So the whole argument against Aeris is practically pointless.

Also, I’m not quite sure why you are becoming so worked up about Tifa questioning what happened. That does happen to be what I said. Tifa did not consider Cloud to be her child, exactly. I apologise if I came off meaning something other that what I thought. I simply meant that Tifa saw him in more of a platonic light than her previous romantic feelings. She observes that he has child-like qualities, and also follows up on this throughout the rest of the story, commenting on how cute he is, like a child, and how she tries to take care of him. She never thought of him as her own child. A motherly instinct does not always imply the same feelings that an actual mother would have.

But there is one point on which I really must disagree with you. Cloud certainly does not carry the relationship. Tifa is the one taking care of Cloud, even in the beginning of CoT, where Cloud had more of a part in the relationship than in any other time in the story. As the story continues, Tifa is the one trying to take care of Cloud and herself together, while Cloud is trying to separate himself from Tifa and take care of only himself so that he doesn’t burden her.

And just so that you know, because without this knowledge I will most likely come off sounding like someone who is trying to protect the pairing that they ship, I do not ship Cloud and Aeris. In fact, I prefer Cloud and Tifa by far. But this opinion does not change my statements. The debate is about the canon, not what you or I ship in our own free time. This needs to be remembered by all parties.

I really don’t think that you should be commenting on something that you don’t know anything about. Also, I know that the fact that Aeris came before Tifa on the page most likely means absolutely nothing. I was simply making a point.

But have you read Lifestream White and Black? Aeris is perfectly sentient and still talks about her continuing feelings for Cloud. If a love triangle is required to have two people love the same person, you are contradicting yourself when you say that Aeris’s feeling do not matter.

At what point does it specifically show that Tifa and Cloud are roommates? And why is it that everyone who ships Cloud and Tifa is fully set in their belief that they are having sex? Is that really the point of the relationship? Or is is just something that perverted fanboys with nothing better to do than stare at Tifa’s chest like to think about?

Also, I took your advice and reread CoT. It has only reinforced my views. For example:

“Friends were a necessity to me so that I could live on without being supressed by the sins in my consciousness. Even if they were fellow companions that had the same wounds. Even if they were fellow companions who were burdened with the same sins. We couldn’t live without comforting each other and encouraging each other.
Maybe you could call that family.”

This is a quote from Tifa’s thoughts about her “family” showing her feelings of Cloud as a friend. And about Tifa having motherly feelings, there is this:

“Tifa thought he was just like a kid. It may have been a little sad that Cloud had found another world that I didn’t know about but, the fact that his world was expanding was a welcoming thought. Yes, it was similar to the feelings a mother would have. Tifa walked Cloud outside, enjoying the new feeling that was welling up inside her.”

This quote, which was on page five of thelifestream.net’s translation of Case of Tifa, shows that Tifa indeed has motherly feelings about Cloud.

But seriously. Please. Play the original game before making a huge deal about something that you don’t know anything about. People like that are just annoying. And could you come up with an insult besides ‘moron’ if you must call names? It’s becoming a tad trying to hear the same insult repeated with no variation. And it just makes you sound like a fool.