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Makoeyes987 11/09/2009 10:05 AM

I guess everyone forgot he posted right in the beginning of the post. And if no one is questioning his qualifications, but how he was appointed, what the hell is he supposed to say? He didn't appoint himself to the post so him trying to speak for our rationale and explain why would be unwarranted. That would be for the rest of us to answer. Expecting him to answer that is kinda odd.

And how was I anything close to snarky in addressing Celes at all? Huh?

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'Trust your judgment' is not an acceptable position with things like this. Just as an fyi.

And only moderating the FF areas is a very bad idea, IN MY OPINION, since it means that he won't be building that all-important rapport/establishing his identity outside of it =/
Him moderating the FF sections only =/= only posting in the FF sections. If you've noticed, he posts all over the forum too.

Omega 11/09/2009 10:38 AM

Mako. I'll say this once.

Please pay attention to what *I* say when you're responding to *my* posts.

His very barebones bit earlier on was a decent start, but rather lacking in much of anything, tbh. There was a bit of humor, yes; but six sentences doesn't seem to have given anyone any idea as to what kind of person he is. He also hasn't given HIS OWN OPINION on any of this ongoing BS, which is the sort of thing you'd sort of expect someone to comment on when it's their own self that's the topic. And I know he's seen it, because about a minute or two after my long post, I checked his profile and noticed he was reading the thread. Soooo...yeah.

Again, note that I don't give a crap how he was appointed. I just want to know what the guy is like. If all of the mods/staff made some sort of introductory post when their position was granted, it would give an idea of their personality or w/e...sort of how the entire Introductions subforum works (minus birthdays/leaving), right? =/

At posting on the forum: the fact is that the areas with the highest activity are the non-FF related sections, yes? How is it then that some of the most active members don't even know the username (and yes, I'll use myself as an example again - please note that I post in EVERY SECTION OF THE FORUM, barring RP and anything personally creative, i.e. art, fanfics, etc)? =/

And it's STILL a bad idea, since it doesn't really help to solidify his position among you, and it also doesn't speak much as to your confidence in him as a leader like that.

Please also note that I did mention that 'how was I anything close to snarky in addressing Celes at all' would not be a good response. It's not just what you say, Makoman, it's HOW you say it - the choice of syntax, sentence structure, all of it. Tbh, it comes across as you lashing out at her in frustration because she was among those opposed. Note the very, VERY different tone in every other post that you've made addressing her.

I won't get into this discussion with you. Like I said - we both know what I'm talking about, and that I'm right. I'm not talking shit, challenging you, demanding apology, or anything else, other than that you please don't do it again. We cool?

Dashell 11/09/2009 10:57 AM

Just FYI Mako went to bed :monster:

The Twilight Mexican 11/09/2009 11:33 AM

If I waited too late to respond to anyone's concerns, I apologize. I felt that it would be bad form to involve myself heavily in this thread without giving everyone a chance to comfortably express their concerns to the people whose recent decisions have raised those concerns.

I felt my continued presence could only exacerbate an already difficult situation -- and, really, I had no business getting involved. Honestly, I couldn't have spoken to the rationale behind selecting me as well as those who had themselves made the decision.

For that matter, I'm the new guy here, in all reailty. Sure, I've lurked since the site was put up and was a member at ACF, but TLS isn't ACF, thank God, and a good number of you are unfamiliar with me.

As such, I didn't want in any way to negatively impact anyone's comfort in voicing their concerns. Knowing a guy's in the room while you're discussing him in a situation such as this could be awkward to some, and I didn't want that.

That said, I assure all of you that I'm aware of your concerns. Though I haven't posted since the second page of the thread, I've read every post that's been made.

As Omega has now specifically requested my presence, I'm going to respond to a number of the concerns and issues raised.

Before I do that, though, I want to reiterate once more that I will try not to let down those whom the position is intended to serve: the community. I encourage -- nay, request -- that if you have any concerns about either the site or my own conduct, you bring them to my attention, or the other staff's should the situation call for it.

For the record, by the way, I also got that Phobos was joking about the cock gobbling. I chuckled.

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Originally Posted by Harry Potter (Post 183042)
I'm not asking what hobbies he has or anything else...but is it SO MUCH to expect the new guy to INTRODUCE HIMSELF to the members in his new capacity? Not even a huge thing, just, 'ohai, just made a mod, wish me luck, hope we have fun, w/e w/e'.

I'm sorry I didn't do this. It honestly didn't occur to me. I wasn't online at the time the update to my account was made, as I was at work, and by the time I would have actually been in the position to make such an announcement myself, this thread had already been made.

That being the case, I just decided to go ahead and post in here.

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Originally Posted by Harry Potter
It's worth noting that the fellow hasn't made ANY POSTS AT ALL IN THIS THREAD since the whole shitstorm began.

I made a post here, though it could have easily been missed given the nuclear proliferation of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Harry Potter
This already doesn't instill me with a lot of confidence, given that it's ABOUT him. Speak up and don't feel timid, or pay attention, whatever the case may be.

I hope I explained adequately in this post's opening comments why I said nothing else until now.

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Originally Posted by Harry Potter
It's my opinion that if everyone always agreed, this forum would stagnate and die very quickly.

I agree with this as well. I know there's concern that my selection may have been based in part on a desire to select a new staffer who wouldn't be prone to disagreeing with the current staff, but if they say or do something I disagree with, I'll let them know it. And I believe they know that.

As it is, in my first post on this forum, I said I disapproved of the general manner in which fans of the CloudxAerith pairing were discussed (I'm a CloudxTifa guy myself) and view deference to what's canon as a bullshit concern when narrative coherency and in-universe continuity are raped as viciously as they have been with the Compilation of FFVII.

Elsewhere, I've disagreed with several of them, and not just on matters related to Final Fantasy. I sent Mako a PM one time telling him that I felt he was being unnecessarily dickish to someone. I'll happily do it again if I think it needs to be said, and neither liking him nor serving as a moderator will make me any less likely to do so.

In all reality, it should make me give more consideration to whether I think another member of staff is out of line.

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Originally Posted by Harry Potter
And only moderating the FF areas is a very bad idea, IN MY OPINION, since it means that he won't be building that all-important rapport/establishing his identity outside of it =/

I'll admit that I've spent most of my time on this forum there, but I do intend to branch out, and have been doing so of late.

Obviously there are still things I'm going to need to learn and people I'll need to get to know -- and who will need to get to know me -- but I'm not frightened by the challenge of hitting the ground running. That's really how I learn best anyway.







In closing, I want to say to everyone that I will do my best and don't want to let anybody down. Also, again, tell me if I fuck up somewhere. I firmly believe I have the potential to do a good job, but I'm sure there will be times I could use the input of another member of the community.

So: please help me not fail.

Thanks for reading. See you around the forum.

And ask me questions if you have them.

Bex 11/09/2009 11:37 AM

I suppose it's too much to ask for good tls drama to run over more than a day.
What a mare.

The Twilight Mexican 11/09/2009 11:58 AM

Shit, I used the word "concerns" too many times in that post. I think it might be time for bed if I didn't catch that until now.

Christ, a day on the job and I've already executed an epic fail.

Marauder 11/09/2009 03:48 PM

THANK YOU, TresDias. This was all I wanted, and you have followed through. Well done sir.

I'd also like to add this juvenile response:

NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH, he FUCKING KNEW I WAS JOKING. I win. :monster:

Alex 11/09/2009 04:57 PM

Staff are all willies lol :O

Pixel 11/09/2009 05:22 PM

lol I couldnt be bothered reading through this thread... i have a life... ok, i dont, im just lazy.

Welcome to TLS.:excited: If the articles we've featured are anything to go by, I can tell that you're going to be a dedicated staffer, with lots of great input, which will bring alot to this place. I have nothing but optimism in this matter.:arr:

Omega 11/09/2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TresDias (Post 183055)
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If I waited too late to respond to anyone's concerns, I apologize. I felt that it would be bad form to involve myself heavily in this thread without giving everyone a chance to comfortably express their concerns to the people whose recent decisions have raised those concerns.

I felt my continued presence could only exacerbate an already difficult situation -- and, really, I had no business getting involved. Honestly, I couldn't have spoken to the rationale behind selecting me as well as those who had themselves made the decision.

For that matter, I'm the new guy here, in all reailty. Sure, I've lurked since the site was put up and was a member at ACF, but TLS isn't ACF, thank God, and a good number of you are unfamiliar with me.

As such, I didn't want in any way to negatively impact anyone's comfort in voicing their concerns. Knowing a guy's in the room while you're discussing him in a situation such as this could be awkward to some, and I didn't want that.

That said, I assure all of you that I'm aware of your concerns. Though I haven't posted since the second page of the thread, I've read every post that's been made.

As Omega has now specifically requested my presence, I'm going to respond to a number of the concerns and issues raised.

Before I do that, though, I want to reiterate once more that I will try not to let down those whom the position is intended to serve: the community. I encourage -- nay, request -- that if you have any concerns about either the site or my own conduct, you bring them to my attention, or the other staff's should the situation call for it.

For the record, by the way, I also got that Phobos was joking about the cock gobbling. I chuckled.



I'm sorry I didn't do this. It honestly didn't occur to me. I wasn't online at the time the update to my account was made, as I was at work, and by the time I would have actually been in the position to make such an announcement myself, this thread had already been made.

That being the case, I just decided to go ahead and post in here.



I made a post here, though it could have easily been missed given the nuclear proliferation of this thread.



I hope I explained adequately in this post's opening comments why I said nothing else until now.



I agree with this as well. I know there's concern that my selection may have been based in part on a desire to select a new staffer who wouldn't be prone to disagreeing with the current staff, but if they say or do something I disagree with, I'll let them know it. And I believe they know that.

As it is, in my first post on this forum, I said I disapproved of the general manner in which fans of the CloudxAerith pairing were discussed (I'm a CloudxTifa guy myself) and view deference to what's canon as a bullshit concern when narrative coherency and in-universe continuity are raped as viciously as they have been with the Compilation of FFVII.

Elsewhere, I've disagreed with several of them, and not just on matters related to Final Fantasy. I sent Mako a PM one time telling him that I felt he was being unnecessarily dickish to someone. I'll happily do it again if I think it needs to be said, and neither liking him nor serving as a moderator will make me any less likely to do so.

In all reality, it should make me give more consideration to whether I think another member of staff is out of line.



I'll admit that I've spent most of my time on this forum there, but I do intend to branch out, and have been doing so of late.

Obviously there are still things I'm going to need to learn and people I'll need to get to know -- and who will need to get to know me -- but I'm not frightened by the challenge of hitting the ground running. That's really how I learn best anyway.







In closing, I want to say to everyone that I will do my best and don't want to let anybody down. Also, again, tell me if I fuck up somewhere. I firmly believe I have the potential to do a good job, but I'm sure there will be times I could use the input of another member of the community.

So: please help me not fail.

Thanks for reading. See you around the forum.

And ask me questions if you have them.

Thank you. That's all I wanted, tbh.

And cheers. Good luck with it all...in case you haven't picked up on it yet (:awesomonster:) being on staff here is rather trying, to say the least :monster:

Cthulhu 11/09/2009 07:24 PM

I've no idea what just happened in this thread.

Is everyone content now, by the way?

The Twilight Mexican 11/09/2009 08:44 PM

Phobos, Alex, Pixel, Omega: Thanks. I'll do the best I can.

For (SPOILER) :grrreatjustice:!

Mariketsu 11/09/2009 08:46 PM

Hope it all goes well Tres, and congrats again ^^. Lol, funny spoiler is funny XD.

~ SoS

ForceStealer 11/09/2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobos (Post 183077)
THANK YOU, TresDias. This was all I wanted, and you have followed through. Well done sir.

Did you actually say that you wanted this at any point? All I saw were "witty" remarks.

Alex 11/09/2009 09:52 PM

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Did you actually say that you wanted this at any point? All I saw were "witty" remarks.
Way to drag on the issue after its been resolved there. You're a real asset to the team.


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