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The Man 08/13/2010 09:39 PM

Yeah I agree with starting with the old-school ones; as said above, I'd recommend starting with FFVI, in part because it seems to be alongside FFVII the most loved entry in the series. As for why to have subfora, in part it's because it makes it easier to find a specific discussion. Plus it makes us look more comprehensive. I have to run to work in a moment so I'll elaborate more on why I think keeping the subfora would be a good idea later.

Dashell 08/13/2010 09:47 PM

I don't mean to be a downer here but it seems like we go through this every few weeks and nothing ever changes. At the very least we should stick to what we're trying to do this time and not just let it fizzle out.

Cat Rage Room 08/13/2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Quexinos (Post 253196)
I don't mean to be a downer here but it seems like we go through this every few weeks and nothing ever changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quexinos (Post 253196)
I don't mean to be a downer here but it seems like we go through this every few weeks and nothing ever changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quexinos (Post 253196)
I don't mean to be a downer here but it seems like we go through this every few weeks and nothing ever changes.

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Originally Posted by Quexinos (Post 253196)
I don't mean to be a downer here but it seems like we go through this every few weeks and nothing ever changes.

somebody give this girl a medal and don't you ever forget she said this

Dashell 08/13/2010 09:50 PM

....

:D

SHUT UP! :D You don't make me feel good by saying good things about me :joy:

Super Mario 08/13/2010 09:55 PM

Well let's start now before shit gets too late. What shall we work on first? Staff? or bringing in new members?

Cat Rage Room 08/13/2010 09:56 PM

Work from the top down; Staff first, I think. Before that, though, we should focus on changing the infrastructure to support whatever site change is gonna happen.

Also we should probably wait for the other staff to chip in as well before we start being definitive about anything; more discussion is always welcome though!

Dashell 08/13/2010 09:59 PM

I realize you guys are focusing on early FFs but would hacking stuff from the newer ones be out? A while back Rob started a disassembly thingy on FFX:

http://www.finalfantasyforums.net/fi...bly-19839.html

well the images don't work anymore but you get the idea. Would something like this be welcomed?

Cat Rage Room 08/13/2010 10:01 PM

Anything is welcome, really. A focus does not exclude yummy other FF stuff! So yeah, that'll be cool.

Hey guys; I gotta step out for a few hours, so keep this discussion going! Stay good, everyone!

Dashell 08/13/2010 10:06 PM

oh wait I do still have some pics:

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4579/glitchl.jpg
Tidus Tidus Tidus Tidus...

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/485/glitch2.jpg
A random Lulu appears

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9531/glitch3.jpg
and this speaks for itself :D

but yeah you already said okay, I just wanted to post the images.

Cthulhu 08/13/2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mog
We were talking in the Staff forum about

For the record, my first post in there was asking why that thread was in the staff forums in the first place, :monster:.

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Originally Posted by Amethyst
I'd be interested in learning how to hack.

I wouldn't, actually, :monster:. I hate working with black boxes, prodding stuff until it works, trying to peer into the convoluted mind of a Japanese programmer. I'd be more into making separate, new software :monster:.

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Originally Posted by looney
Strange thing is, I see active FF7 fans in places like LJ and such. Perhaps people just cba to join an FF exclusive forum? idk, it's not like there's a lack of love for the game going around.

Or maybe we're just not profiling ourselves enough on sites like Facebook, JL, Shitter, etc. Something like this might work - as a start.

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Originally Posted by Mog
I vote to condense all of the Compilation subforums into just one, big 'Compilation of Final Fantasy VII' forum. Nuke all the subforums entirely and move all the topics in them into one big one. None of the Compilation games are generating enough activity to warrant 5 different forums.

I vote against, actually, as some of the entries (AC, CC at the very least) have (had) enough potential, and second that, like it or not, we still have the compilation as our main goal - at least in terms of general style and atmosphere and things.

Expanding other forums could work, however with that too I'd suggest not overdoing it at first - make sections for the games we got content for, or do eras before doing sections if the activity doesn't warrant it.

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Originally Posted by quex
I don't mean to be a downer here but it seems like we go through this every few weeks and nothing ever changes. At the very least we should stick to what we're trying to do this time and not just let it fizzle out.

You are SO wrong.

It's once every few months, actually :monster:.

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Originally Posted by Quexinos (Post 253210)
I realize you guys are focusing on early FFs but would hacking stuff from the newer ones be out? A while back Rob started a disassembly thingy on FFX:

http://www.finalfantasyforums.net/fi...bly-19839.html

well the images don't work anymore but you get the idea. Would something like this be welcomed?

Well, is it actually interesting? I mean, I don't know about you or you lot, but apparent bugs like this... don't really give me a boner. Let alone if it's a one-off thing slapped onto the site randomly, a random appearance of Lulu and buggered names in the character list being one of the few articles that appear on the site (and which stays on the frontpage for months, at the current rate of new posts), in which case the site suddenly switches from a Compilation (and, to a lesser / equal part Dissidia) site to also cover FFX bugs / hacks.

It'd constitute as interesting (in my book) if this Rob fellow could haxor into the game and find secret 'deleted scenes' that possibly would influence the story in an odd fashion, for example. Nothing personal, :monster:.

A FFVI retranslation (and subsequent re-releasing) would be an interesthing thing to do, however. Monthly updates on critical differences between original translation and re-translation would be a welcome addition to the frontpage's content.

Alex 08/13/2010 11:07 PM

A few ideas:

How about the Let's Play idea that was floated around for awhile and never went anywhere? We have enough people with microphones and skype, we could probably get started on one or two of these for like whatever Final Fantasy thats conveniant. Maybe do two at a time, one for people who are like the game and another for those who are critical of it. That way some debate, contrast and discussion could emerge on both sides of the table.

Secondly, what about some articles for the mainpage based on the kind of thing that Cracked do (or a more series specific example, like what they do on The Snake Soup). You know, funny or serious articles listing like Top 5 or Top 10 lists of things to do with the Final Fantasy series. 'Top 5 endings in the series', 'Top 10 most random, wtf moments' 'top 15 boss battles'. Little things like that which could inject some humour into the front page, alongside some discussion which could move some commenters to posting on the forum.

ForceStealer 08/13/2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by (Post 253249)
How about the Let's Play idea that was floated around for awhile and never went anywhere? We have enough people with microphones and skype, we could probably get started on one or two of these for like whatever Final Fantasy thats conveniant. Maybe do two at a time, one for people who are like the game and another for those who are critical of it. That way some debate, contrast and discussion could emerge on both sides of the table.

This. AND can we ever resurrect that LO/ACC/whatever commentary project? I was really excited about that.

LicoriceAllsorts 08/13/2010 11:24 PM

Obviously my main interest is the fanfiction so what few ideas I have come from that side of the field. This site is a fantastic resource for fan-fiction writers - it's how I found it and grew to love it in the first place. Nobody ever made me feel stupid for asking noob questions (except mako, a bit, but that's his job) and if no one knew the answer, there would always be a knowledgeable discussion that would bring some possible answers to the surface.

I am always surprised when I find that my fellow fanfictioneers don't know about this site. They need to, and I regularly refer them here. FFVII is one of of the biggest fandoms in gaming fanfic, if not THE biggest. We ought to link ourselves more prominently within the main fanfiction sites - fanfiction.net, LJ, Dreamwidth and A03 come to mind. That would get more people coming to visit this site, and some will stay.

That's all I've got.

Alex 08/13/2010 11:25 PM

Definitely!

These are the kind of big idea projects that you find no other Final Fantasy site is really attempting and would really make us standout.

Omega 08/13/2010 11:55 PM

OKAY SO

Here's what I think.

I think keeping the actual forum bound mostly within the realm of FF isn't a great idea. It's like Mog said - Xenogears and Chrono Trigger haven't had a damn thing happen in ages, and yet their communities are still very active and there's lots of stuff to talk about in them. As such, why not actually open TLS into a general gaming forum - to start with?

You could easily expand for things like CT, Xeno, Zelda, Metroid, whatever. It wouldn't be difficult, especially since there's quite enough active members to work on multiple fronts simultaneously. And that way, it doesn't pin the "FF forum" label on us, with its negative stigmata, and TLS can ALSO move away from being another place that is infamous for the LTD bit. Which, tbh, I honestly think should just be let go. LET IT FUCKING DIE, PEOPLE. NONE OF YOU ARE SAYING ANYTHING NEW OR INTERESTING. IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE. THE HORSE HAS BEEN BEATEN FAR BEYOND DEATH TO THE POINT THAT NONE OF ITS MOLECULES ARE STILL WITHIN THIS PLANE OF EXISTENCE.

/rant


Additionally, I really think expanding beyond just being a gaming forum is also a great idea. The Movie Night was a good idea, and was going well, until the third week when people stopped voting/watching movies. (I myself didn't have internet, so I fucked up there, esp. since I was the one to suggest it >: ) But more things, like having art or writing contests, "giveaways" (where registered members who meet certain criteria are capable of winning some prize or other, most likely something vsmall and cheap, unless it's a HUGE contest that is guaranteed to draw a lot of activity), whatever...there's loads of ways of getting more traffic coming into this place.

As to keeping the members...that's on us, tbh. Once we lure them in, all we have to do is not chase them off. Which basically means not letting Dacon post in their intro threads. :monster:

But I really think there's a lot of things that could be done to bring some fresh air into the forum. I had a lot of other stuff I was going to type, but then got sidetracked and forgot it all. :P


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