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Old 07/17/2012   #1
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Default Weekly Famitsu Feature: FFVII Development Notes

HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE MISS THIS?!

This is from two months ago. Somebody needs to get this Famitsu magazine. NOW.

Looks like we could get hold of previously unseen sketches, at the very least.

EDIT: If anybody can help me order multiple copies of this magazine, I'd be very happy.

*UPDATE: koolaidman found a link to scans of said Famitsu magazine with key-point translations!

In the publication Square’s Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshinori Kitase and Kazushige Nojima all look back on the development on Final Fantasy 7 and share interesting details about one of the most popular role-playing ever released.

-Former Square employee Hironobu Sakuguchi decided to use super deformed characters in cutscenes, and normal scale characters in the battle scenes; the Materia system was also his idea

-Tetsuya Nomura designed the Limit Breaks system.

- Tifa was added later in the game

-Aerith & Sephiroth were originally brother and sister, then lovers

- Aerith’s death was Tetsuya Nomura idea

-Cloud’s hair style was originally slicked back to reduce polygon counts

- Aerith’s dress was also designed to reduce polygon counts.

Translation courtesy of Andrisang
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Old 07/17/2012   #2
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Went ahead now and ordered a copy of the magazine via Play-Asia. Unfortunately it refused to let me order multiple copies. >__<

At least I hope that's the correct magazine, lol

Edit: This has been very weird. First it tells me I'm only allowed to buy two copies. Then it only allows one. Then immediately after I made the order the magazine becomes out of stock. So far the messages from Play-Asia are not implying that I was too late, so let's hope I was lucky to get the final copy.
According to my item order email the magazine was in stock when I ordered it.
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Old 07/17/2012   #3
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Aerith & Sephiroth were originally brother and sister, then lovers
This would of been awesome! Both.. at the same time. :p
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Old 07/17/2012   #4
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...Are you serious?

At least four of those we knew from the Ultimania Omega's piece on FFVII's development.

....And that Kotaku article is literally the same shit we posted two years ago, regarding Yuffie. That's not new info at all.

I'm curious as to what these unseen design sketches are though. One has to wonder just how many there are that are hidden at this point.

But umm...yeah. Apparently Famitsu and/or S-E forgot what they've released to the public regarding FFVII? Because..this is not really that new or unknown at all. That stuff had been released back when AC was first released and the FFVII Ultimania Omega was printed.
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Old 07/17/2012   #5
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Aerith & Sephiroth were originally brother and sister, then lovers
tbh, I thought this was already a known thing, and explained the similarity in their hair bangs.
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Old 07/17/2012   #6
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I wouldn't be surprised either way, if they forgot they released this info or just said "Meh, we'll just tell the same story again maybe they won't mind". Either way it's nothing that upsets me.

Il Dona wrote: I'm curious as to what these unseen design sketches are though. One has to wonder just how many there are that are hidden at this point.
I wonder if there are keypoints about the making of the scenes the translator left out though. I wouldn't be surprised if this Andrisang only translated story/character-design details and decided not to bother with the rest.
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Old 07/18/2012   #7
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In the publication Square’s Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshinori Kitase and Kazushige Nojima all look back on the development on Final Fantasy 7 and share interesting details about one of the most popular role-playing ever released.

-Former Square employee Hironobu Sakuguchi decided to use super deformed characters in cutscenes, and normal scale characters in the battle scenes; the Materia system was also his idea
So he's to blame for the Megaflop in the Crater FMV, got it.

-Tetsuya Nomura designed the Limit Breaks system.
I wonder if he had input about the similar system for FF6.

- Tifa was added later in the game
Knew that already.

-Aerith & Sephiroth were originally brother and sister, then lovers
Knew that already.

- Aerith’s death was Tetsuya Nomura idea
Knew that already, revealed at same time as 'Tifa added later.'

-Cloud’s hair style was originally slicked back to reduce polygon counts
Knew that already, though not the reason.

- Aerith’s dress was also designed to reduce polygon counts.
It certainly does save on the used Polygons. It's kind four or five fuzzy blobs in the final field model, and even the battle model is pretty low count.

Translation courtesy of Andrisang
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Old 07/18/2012   #8
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Ryushikaze wrote: So he's to blame for the Megaflop in the Crater FMV, got it.
Which flop in which Crater FMV exactly?
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Old 07/18/2012   #9
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I assume Tifa.

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Old 07/19/2012   #10
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Shademp wrote: Went ahead now and ordered a copy of the magazine via Play-Asia. Unfortunately it refused to let me order multiple copies. >__<

At least I hope that's the correct magazine, lol

Edit: This has been very weird. First it tells me I'm only allowed to buy two copies. Then it only allows one. Then immediately after I made the order the magazine becomes out of stock. So far the messages from Play-Asia are not implying that I was too late, so let's hope I was lucky to get the final copy.
According to my item order email the magazine was in stock when I ordered it.
That's not the one you want anyway. This is the one you're looking for (2012 5/31, issue no. 1224):
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201205/17014726.html

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E9%80%B1%E5...ref=pd_sim_b_7

edit; play-asia is out of it too:
http://www.play-asia.com/Weekly_Fami...n-70-4qa5.html

If I had 250 yen in my iTunes account, there is a digital version of it through an app. Incidentally, I have 115 yen in my account so no u.

According to the contents page on the sample for this issue, the FFVII section is 12 pages long in all.
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Old 07/19/2012   #11
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Can I suggest trying this magazine app thing to get stuff for the site? (If magazine translations are still to be something that's on going, which might not be completely feasible or warranted given the lack of FFVII stuff lately.)

For 1500¥ you could get 6 Weekly Famitsu issues at 250¥ each. Buying a Japanese iTunes card online would mean the money would be ready to spend within an hour most of the time. Plus there is no waiting around fit it to ship and be delivered to someone. I don't know if there is a more elegant way to get images that screen caps but as long as the text is readable that should be adequate.

(Given the lack of FFVII news it could be spent on other stuff for different games as well. FF or non FF?)
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Old 07/19/2012   #12
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Claudia Wolf wrote: Can I suggest trying this magazine app thing to get stuff for the site?
"Apps" only apply to cell phones, right? I don't have a modern enough cell phone.

Claudia Wolf wrote: (If magazine translations are still to be something that's on going, which might not be completely feasible or warranted given the lack of FFVII stuff lately.)
Since I'm going to be collecting magazines from the earliest days of FFVII, not just for translations but also for collecting pre-release footage, this is perfectly feasible as material for TLS.
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I don't know about the Android app and if they work on tablets, but the iOS app will work on iPads.

The next/current? Weekly Famitsu has a 25th anniversary feature on Metal Gear, for example. What's the view on things like that which, unlike SaGa Frontier or the like, isn't made by Square? As an occasional feature rather than something regular.
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Old 07/20/2012   #14
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Claudia Wolf wrote: I don't know about the Android app and if they work on tablets, but the iOS app will work on iPads.

The next/current? Weekly Famitsu has a 25th anniversary feature on Metal Gear, for example. What's the view on things like that which, unlike SaGa Frontier or the like, isn't made by Square? As an occasional feature rather than something regular.
The way that I've written the Site Goals and how the coming site redesign is structured, our non-FFVII focus is "Translations of Guide Books released by Square". So if I am to have my say, focus should be on translating the Ultimanias of other FFs along with Kingdom Hearts, Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, Legend of Mana etc what have you.

Note: Translations of art books like the Kusanagi series also works, even though they are not guide books. It all falls under the cateogory "Book Translations" which will be linked to on the front page.
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Old 07/20/2012   #15
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then i will have to make my own site with blackjack and hookers and metal gear translations
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