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***The Twilight Mexican*** · 11/01/2013

With the posting of the new LTD analysis, I figure it's time for a new LTD thread.

Also, I would be failing in my duties if I didn't quote Dacon's opening post from the last LTD thread:

Ok. Staff have discussed it, and though many of them were in favor of just simply shutting it down for good, we have agreed to give it another shot.

I don't believe in dictating what people can or can't talk about, so I want to give this another chance to work and give everyone another shot at discussing this Debate that they seem to enjoy talking about.

Here's the deal, there will be no more toleration of any kind of foolishness. If you flame someone, you will be banned. If you troll, you will be banned. If you try and use past events as a weapon against people, you will be banned. Off topic bullshit isn't acceptable either, save the frivolous banter for the clubs please(which might I add, are a haven for whatever their subjects are, if you have a problem with whatever pairing or character the club pertains to, DON'T FUCKING POST any bullshit you have against them). ANYTHING not regarding the LTD and the pairings concerned is off topic, full stop. If you can't keep from doing shit like this, you may as well not even bother posting. Try and circumvent these standards and it will be treated the same as a violation of them. This is not a game.

If it gets so bad that we're banning too many people, we're going to shut down the entire debate for at least a year, but I don't think it will come to that. You people all have it within you to demonstrate basic civility and I expect you to do so. Despite how we may behave sometimes, we are not children.

Now myself and my fellow mods will not go for outright bans on every offense, we will mostly be issuing temp bans, but we do have the ability to completely nix your permissions to this thread and we will make use of it.

The premise is simple, discuss the LTD, do it respectfully and civilly, and we will have no problem. Don't, and I will bring the hammer of god down as fast the internet will allow.

All that said, have fun, and don't fuck it up.

Macros have been expressly banned from the thread. This has been said often enough. It is being added here so no one will have an excuse.

Literally Who? · 11/01/2013

I was happy to see the last one locked.

Sad to see this one opened.

CONSIDER MY HALLOWEEN RUINED NOT EVEN A HOCUS POCUS MARATHON CAN SAVE IT NOW

Obsidian Fire · 11/01/2013

*settles down with bowl of internet popcorn*

Splintered · 11/01/2013

I disagree with everything you said.

Sorry, just getting a head start.

Octo · 11/01/2013

Tres......you've murdered us all!

Knuxson · 11/01/2013

I just read through your new LTD analysis post and found it to be a huge improvement over the previous one. Thanks for taking so much time to do that. I get a little exasperated at the thought that someone would need so many quotes from creators, ultimanias, etc. to be convinced of something that is right there in the narrative of the OG and the compilation. A story shouldn't have to spell out everything explicitly for the audience to grasp what the intention is. I do appreciate you digging all that up, though, and, at the least, it is extremely interesting to read through all of it. Thanks again.

jazzflower92 · 11/01/2013

Here we go again. Now I wonder what we will talk about now.

Knuxson · 11/01/2013

jazzflower92 wrote:

Here we go again. Now I wonder what we will talk about now.

Clonaki? Clearly, Cloud loves Red XIII.

AvecAloes · 11/01/2013

Amano's FFVII art is proof enough of that for me!

Unlucky · 11/01/2013

http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/...08/eilUIA7.jpg

^I see what you did thar!

Shademp · 11/01/2013

At the top of my head, I can't think of any other topic in gaming which has been treated with such academic finesse, on such a massive and long-lived scale, by select people of a given fandom. The LTD may be a monster, but we can be proud to have people like Tres who stare into the abyss but without blinking. (SPOILER)

There will always be those who "argue" like children who have yet been taught the art of debate. For those, the words of Bertrand Russell are relevant.

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***The Twilight Mexican*** · 11/01/2013

Shademp wrote: At the top of my head, I can't think of any other topic in gaming which has been treated with such academic finesse, on such a massive and long-lived scale, by select people of a given fandom. The LTD may be a monster, but we can be proud to have people like Tres who stare into the abyss but without blinking.

Thank you.

I intend never to do anything like this again. XD

Unlucky wrote: http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/...08/eilUIA7.jpg

^I see what you did thar!

Now I'm curious to know what you think I was going for there. Please share.

Knuxson · 11/01/2013

Unlucky wrote: http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/...08/eilUIA7.jpg

^I see what you did thar!

I'm not sure what you meant by this either Unlucky. That Cloud is looking at Tifa in the picture?

***The Twilight Mexican*** · 11/01/2013

Ohhh, okay, I see now.

Yeah, he does seem to be leaning more in her direction.

Honestly, I put those three images next to each other because they all look depressed there. I figured if we have to suffer with their shenanigans, it was only fitting that we could look at them being miserable.

Unlucky · 11/01/2013

Looks to me like he's checking her ass out. But looks like I'm seeing things, nvm folks!

Great analysis. Very honest and transparent. Wishful thinking as this may seem I really hope it clears up at least some negativity.

11/01/2013	#1
*The Twilight Mexican* *Administrator* Great Old One Ex-SeeD-ingly good Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: North Carolina AKA: TresDias, Hawkeye, El Diablo Gato, Martha Jones, Ariadne, Squall of SeeD, Squall_of_SeeD	The Love Triangle Debate: Another Turn in the Cycle With the posting of the new LTD analysis, I figure it's time for a new LTD thread. Also, I would be failing in my duties if I didn't quote Dacon's opening post from the last LTD thread: Ok. Staff have discussed it, and though many of them were in favor of just simply shutting it down for good, we have agreed to give it another shot. I don't believe in dictating what people can or can't talk about, so I want to give this another chance to work and give everyone another shot at discussing this Debate that they seem to enjoy talking about. Here's the deal, there will be no more toleration of any kind of foolishness. If you flame someone, you will be banned. If you troll, you will be banned. If you try and use past events as a weapon against people, you will be banned. Off topic bullshit isn't acceptable either, save the frivolous banter for the clubs please(which might I add, are a haven for whatever their subjects are, if you have a problem with whatever pairing or character the club pertains to, DON'T FUCKING POST any bullshit you have against them). ANYTHING not regarding the LTD and the pairings concerned is off topic, full stop. If you can't keep from doing shit like this, you may as well not even bother posting. Try and circumvent these standards and it will be treated the same as a violation of them. This is not a game. If it gets so bad that we're banning too many people, we're going to shut down the entire debate for at least a year, but I don't think it will come to that. You people all have it within you to demonstrate basic civility and I expect you to do so. Despite how we may behave sometimes, we are not children. Now myself and my fellow mods will not go for outright bans on every offense, we will mostly be issuing temp bans, but we do have the ability to completely nix your permissions to this thread and we will make use of it. The premise is simple, discuss the LTD, do it respectfully and civilly, and we will have no problem. Don't, and I will bring the hammer of god down as fast the internet will allow. All that said, have fun, and don't fuck it up. Macros have been expressly banned from the thread. This has been said often enough. It is being added here so no one will have an excuse. __________________ Quexinos wrote: I wish I had been there when Cloud realized he had geostigma. I bet he cried. hito wrote: man i miss flip phones, they were cool and now everything is a boring slab Last edited by The Twilight Mexican; 11/01/2013 at 02:05 AM.

11/01/2013	#2
Literally Who? Legendary Member fbtswjl20yaw2pchuau:( Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 33 Sex: lol Location: ON A BOAT! AKA: doc holiday, abra, gabe, gabriel, gabathehut, lunasea, Boxxybabee	I was happy to see the last one locked. Sad to see this one opened. CONSIDER MY HALLOWEEN RUINED NOT EVEN A HOCUS POCUS MARATHON CAN SAVE IT NOW __________________ Streaming Chocobo Racing and stuff

11/01/2013	#3
Obsidian Fire Elite Member Ahk Morn! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fractal Continuum, Azys Lla AKA: The Engineer	settles down with bowl of internet popcorn __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

11/01/2013	#4
Splintered Elite Member unsavory tart Join Date: Jun 2009	I disagree with everything you said. Sorry, just getting a head start. __________________

11/01/2013	#5
Octo Staff Emeritus Great Old One KULT OF KERMITU Join Date: Oct 2010 AKA: Octo, Octorawk, Clarky Cat, Kissmammal2000	Tres......you've murdered us all! __________________ BUY THINGS FROM ME I HAVE AN REDBUBBLE!

11/01/2013	#6
Knuxson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: Dallas, Texas	I just read through your new LTD analysis post and found it to be a huge improvement over the previous one. Thanks for taking so much time to do that. I get a little exasperated at the thought that someone would need so many quotes from creators, ultimanias, etc. to be convinced of something that is right there in the narrative of the OG and the compilation. A story shouldn't have to spell out everything explicitly for the audience to grasp what the intention is. I do appreciate you digging all that up, though, and, at the least, it is extremely interesting to read through all of it. Thanks again.

11/01/2013	#7
jazzflower92 Ascended Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Sex: Female Location: California AKA: The Girl With A Strong Opinion	Here we go again. Now I wonder what we will talk about now.

11/01/2013	#8
Knuxson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: Dallas, Texas	jazzflower92 wrote: Here we go again. Now I wonder what we will talk about now. Clonaki? Clearly, Cloud loves Red XIII.

11/01/2013	#9
AvecAloes Legendary Member Donator Join Date: Nov 2011 Age: 35 Sex: Female Location: Here.	Amano's FFVII art is proof enough of that for me! __________________ IT CALLS TO ALL

11/01/2013	#10
Unlucky Ascended Member WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN Join Date: Jan 2012 Sex: F	http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/...08/eilUIA7.jpg ^I see what you did thar!

11/01/2013	#12
*The Twilight Mexican* *Administrator* Great Old One Ex-SeeD-ingly good Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: North Carolina AKA: TresDias, Hawkeye, El Diablo Gato, Martha Jones, Ariadne, Squall of SeeD, Squall_of_SeeD	Shademp wrote: At the top of my head, I can't think of any other topic in gaming which has been treated with such academic finesse, on such a massive and long-lived scale, by select people of a given fandom. The LTD may be a monster, but we can be proud to have people like Tres who stare into the abyss but without blinking. Thank you. I intend never to do anything like this again. XD Unlucky wrote: http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/...08/eilUIA7.jpg ^I see what you did thar! Now I'm curious to know what you think I was going for there. Please share. __________________ Quexinos wrote: I wish I had been there when Cloud realized he had geostigma. I bet he cried. hito wrote: man i miss flip phones, they were cool and now everything is a boring slab

11/01/2013	#13
Knuxson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: Dallas, Texas	Unlucky wrote: http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/...08/eilUIA7.jpg ^I see what you did thar! I'm not sure what you meant by this either Unlucky. That Cloud is looking at Tifa in the picture?

11/01/2013	#14
*The Twilight Mexican* *Administrator* Great Old One Ex-SeeD-ingly good Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: North Carolina AKA: TresDias, Hawkeye, El Diablo Gato, Martha Jones, Ariadne, Squall of SeeD, Squall_of_SeeD	Ohhh, okay, I see now. Yeah, he does seem to be leaning more in her direction. Honestly, I put those three images next to each other because they all look depressed there. I figured if we have to suffer with their shenanigans, it was only fitting that we could look at them being miserable. __________________ Quexinos wrote: I wish I had been there when Cloud realized he had geostigma. I bet he cried. hito wrote: man i miss flip phones, they were cool and now everything is a boring slab