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keith0301 · 03/12/2018

Something just occurred to me...

I was thinking about how so many people wish Aeris wouldn't die in the remake. Safe to say...shes going to die. The rest of the story would be so diminished. It would also be an ultimate slap in the face to many loyal fans who want it to remain as close to the original as possible.

So shes gonna die...but this is the thing.

They're "remaking it" right? They've said they're going to make small changes so that its a fresh experience, right? So what does that entail?

They will certainly omit certain things (which will piss a lot of us off...)
They will certainly add certain things (which hopefully only enhances the story)

But where do I see them best and most effectively being able to make this game a fresh experience? SLIGHTLY tweaking some of the most notable moments in the story.

This brings me to Aeris death scene...arguably the most important story moment in the game. I think because of what this scene represents to the fans...and the fact that this IS a "REMAKE" were going to see tweaks here - like it or not.

So what made the original scene work so well? SURPRISE. Safe to say...for all of us who have played FF7...its impossible to replicate that experience....UNLESS...they toy with us!!!

And thats the reason for this thread. I firmly believe that they're going to TRICK US during this scene! In order to create that sense of surprise again...in order to make it dramatic again. Of course I'm not sure how...because it HAS to take place on that same spot...but I feel like were going to be somehow misled. I think theyre going to speak/exchange dialogue. Something about it will be fresh and new, and maybe Aeris stands and we get the sense like "OMG theyre not going to kill her!! Shes going to join the guys and they're going to leave." and then DOWN COMES SEPHIROTH!!!! Haha....

I just want to believe that these guys are thinking about how to toy with our emotions in order to make the experience fresh for us again. We all know every single detail. This is what I'm looking forward to the most in the remake.

LicoriceAllsorts · 03/12/2018

I would like to see her die realistically. That is all.

Random Nobody · 03/12/2018

LicoriceAllsorts wrote: I would like to see her die realistically. That is all.

I won't rest until she has a two hour long ultra instinct fight with Sephiroth before dying after casting Final Explosion.

LicoriceAllsorts · 03/12/2018

Playable fight or watchable fight?

Random Nobody · 03/12/2018

A 120 minute action cutscene with endless quick time events. The best kind.

Kionae · 03/12/2018

I want to see it from Sephiroth's point of view, as he's watching her from above and Cloud approaches and then BAM! Dead Cetra.

ChipNoir · 03/12/2018

I get the feeling this is going to be one of the many cases where Square will feel the need to keep it ultra faithful to the original, because it's just so iconic.

***X-SOLDIER*** · 03/12/2018

ChipNoir wrote: I get the feeling this is going to be one of the many cases where Square will feel the need to keep it ultra faithful to the original, because it's just so iconic.

This. There're a handful of moments that will define if this is a faithful Remake, Aerith's death scene is absolutely one of them.

What I'm most interested in is actually the lead up to it – Cloud being nearly out of control, and trying to resist being puppeted to murder her. How do you portray that struggle of control in the layout of a modern game? There's that distinct build up of tension that captivates your attention but not ruined covering it in QTE prompts or something. At what point does it transition out of player control and into a cutscene that still gives that temporary sigh of relief before the inevitable happens?

There's a lot to consider insofar as Game Design is concerned for that moment, and not just what the visuals are going to look like. If we see changes, I expect to see it around that, rather than the scene itself.

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Addy Carver · 03/12/2018

Kionae wrote: I want to see it from Sephiroth's point of view, as he's watching her from above and Cloud approaches and then BAM! Dead Cetra.

I laughed hard.

Russell · 03/12/2018

Kionae wrote: I want to see it from Sephiroth's point of view, as he's watching her from above and Cloud approaches and then BAM! Dead Cetra.

Ha!

For some reason I picture Seph with his arm in the air looking at Cloud for a high five...
"Don't leave me hanging bro!"

I guess we'll see everyone's reaction to her death; in the original you only saw the reaction of whoever you had with you.

I hope they keep Yuffies reaction the same; she burst into tears hugged Cloud then ran off crying. It's the saddest reaction I think and really helped Yuffie's character.

Found it on youtube:

YouTube Video

ChipNoir · 03/12/2018

My prediction is that they're going to use Cloud's Eyes from AC to hide the moment of impact. Which I might love or I might hate. I'm unsure at the moment.

Minato · 03/13/2018

Hope to see the party have a more active part in trying to prevent Cloud from cutting down Aerith.

Literally Who? · 03/13/2018

I hope to see if they shed any light on the bullshit fuckery magikery that is going on in that pool of water.

What is it Square!? Huh? Fess up you bitches.

Is that water shallow or deep af? One second no fucks given walking around ankle deep, the next the girl is sinking deeper than Leonardo Dicaprio on a chilly night in the middle of the North Atlantic Ocean in 1997.

I need answers damn it.

ChipNoir · 04/16/2018

I get the feeling her burial at sea (...lake?) is going to take a leaf out of the FFX/XIII Aesthetic book. They've really enjoyed playing up the "Mystical Tendrils of Light" imagery so much they literally shoved it into FFXIII-3.

So likely we're going to see Aerith slowly sinking from a sheer drop off, and then magically dissolve into tendrils of Life Stream, or maybe even crystalize ala Lucrecia in Dirge of Cerberus.

This is a good point for Shad to come here and tell me there's a unique circumstance that only applies to Lucrecia in the first place. since I know zip about that game.

sy2pie · 05/23/2018

I think they will go with a more Tarantino style death to appeal to all the modern PS4 and Xbox gamers. Sephiroth will fly down and slice her head clean off. It will bounce down the stairs like the White Materia and fall into the lake which turns red from all the BLOOD. Her body will spray blood everywhere including up Clouds face as the headless body flap its hands in the air dramatically before collapsing on the floor.

Rock n roll.

03/12/2018	#1
keith0301 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2018	Aeris Death scene Something just occurred to me... I was thinking about how so many people wish Aeris wouldn't die in the remake. Safe to say...shes going to die. The rest of the story would be so diminished. It would also be an ultimate slap in the face to many loyal fans who want it to remain as close to the original as possible. So shes gonna die...but this is the thing. They're "remaking it" right? They've said they're going to make small changes so that its a fresh experience, right? So what does that entail? They will certainly omit certain things (which will piss a lot of us off...) They will certainly add certain things (which hopefully only enhances the story) But where do I see them best and most effectively being able to make this game a fresh experience? SLIGHTLY tweaking some of the most notable moments in the story. This brings me to Aeris death scene...arguably the most important story moment in the game. I think because of what this scene represents to the fans...and the fact that this IS a "REMAKE" were going to see tweaks here - like it or not. So what made the original scene work so well? SURPRISE. Safe to say...for all of us who have played FF7...its impossible to replicate that experience....UNLESS...they toy with us!!! And thats the reason for this thread. I firmly believe that they're going to TRICK US during this scene! In order to create that sense of surprise again...in order to make it dramatic again. Of course I'm not sure how...because it HAS to take place on that same spot...but I feel like were going to be somehow misled. I think theyre going to speak/exchange dialogue. Something about it will be fresh and new, and maybe Aeris stands and we get the sense like "OMG theyre not going to kill her!! Shes going to join the guys and they're going to leave." and then DOWN COMES SEPHIROTH!!!! Haha.... I just want to believe that these guys are thinking about how to toy with our emotions in order to make the experience fresh for us again. We all know every single detail. This is what I'm looking forward to the most in the remake.

03/12/2018	#2
LicoriceAllsorts Staff Emeritus Legendary Member Donator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Edge of My Seat	I would like to see her die realistically. That is all. __________________ FIFTY SHADES OF TSENG

03/12/2018	#4
LicoriceAllsorts Staff Emeritus Legendary Member Donator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Edge of My Seat	Playable fight or watchable fight? __________________ FIFTY SHADES OF TSENG

03/12/2018	#6
Kionae Ascended Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Age: 41 Sex: Female Location: Illinois AKA: Desha	I want to see it from Sephiroth's point of view, as he's watching her from above and Cloud approaches and then BAM! Dead Cetra. __________________ Awards 'n Stuffs

03/12/2018	#8
*X-SOLDIER* *Administrator* Great Old One Harbinger O Great Justice Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 36 Location: SLC, UT - USA	ChipNoir wrote: I get the feeling this is going to be one of the many cases where Square will feel the need to keep it ultra faithful to the original, because it's just so iconic. This. There're a handful of moments that will define if this is a faithful Remake, Aerith's death scene is absolutely one of them. What I'm most interested in is actually the lead up to it – Cloud being nearly out of control, and trying to resist being puppeted to murder her. How do you portray that struggle of control in the layout of a modern game? There's that distinct build up of tension that captivates your attention but not ruined covering it in QTE prompts or something. At what point does it transition out of player control and into a cutscene that still gives that temporary sigh of relief before the inevitable happens? There's a lot to consider insofar as Game Design is concerned for that moment, and not just what the visuals are going to look like. If we see changes, I expect to see it around that, rather than the scene itself. X __________________ Cyclops. Is. Right. …Xenomorphaux Pas… Shademp – on the subject of my seemingly boundless optimism wrote: After Ungoliant had sucked the light from the trees Telperion and Laurelin, she found that there was a third tree but whose light was too potent and immortal for her to absorb. Thusly, Ungoliant left Valinor in tears for she could not absorb the light of the tree named X-SOLDIER. #TotzCanon ~ \| G+ \| Facebook \| Tumblr \| Twitter \| DA \| TLS \| FFOF \| FF \| SCL \| KC \| CC \| ~

03/12/2018	#3
Random Nobody Senior Member grave hag Join Date: May 2011	LicoriceAllsorts wrote: I would like to see her die realistically. That is all. I won't rest until she has a two hour long ultra instinct fight with Sephiroth before dying after casting Final Explosion.

03/12/2018	#7
ChipNoir Epic Member Internet Ghost Join Date: Jan 2017 Sex: Male AKA: Mister Spooks.	I get the feeling this is going to be one of the many cases where Square will feel the need to keep it ultra faithful to the original, because it's just so iconic.

03/12/2018	#9
Addy Carver Great Old One Z whacking Join Date: May 2009 Age: 39 Sex: Not very often AKA: Mage, Midna, Ryoko, Granny Weatherwax, Shub Niggurath	Kionae wrote: I want to see it from Sephiroth's point of view, as he's watching her from above and Cloud approaches and then BAM! Dead Cetra. I laughed hard. __________________ 2017 Trophy Cabinet

03/13/2018	#12
Minato Elite Member Donator Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 31 Sex: Yes Location: Close AKA: MarquessLaus, Brandon Stark, Epyon, Mr Foxhound, Doran	Hope to see the party have a more active part in trying to prevent Cloud from cutting down Aerith.

03/13/2018	#13
Literally Who? Legendary Member fbtswjl20yaw2pchuau:( Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 33 Sex: lol Location: ON A BOAT! AKA: doc holiday, abra, gabe, gabriel, gabathehut, lunasea, Boxxybabee	I hope to see if they shed any light on the bullshit fuckery magikery that is going on in that pool of water. What is it Square!? Huh? Fess up you bitches. Is that water shallow or deep af? One second no fucks given walking around ankle deep, the next the girl is sinking deeper than Leonardo Dicaprio on a chilly night in the middle of the North Atlantic Ocean in 1997. I need answers damn it. __________________ Streaming Chocobo Racing and stuff

04/16/2018	#14
ChipNoir Epic Member Internet Ghost Join Date: Jan 2017 Sex: Male AKA: Mister Spooks.	I get the feeling her burial at sea (...lake?) is going to take a leaf out of the FFX/XIII Aesthetic book. They've really enjoyed playing up the "Mystical Tendrils of Light" imagery so much they literally shoved it into FFXIII-3. So likely we're going to see Aerith slowly sinking from a sheer drop off, and then magically dissolve into tendrils of Life Stream, or maybe even crystalize ala Lucrecia in Dirge of Cerberus. This is a good point for Shad to come here and tell me there's a unique circumstance that only applies to Lucrecia in the first place. since I know zip about that game.

05/23/2018	#15
sy2pie Full Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Sex: Male Location: Cambridge. UK AKA: sy2pie	I think they will go with a more Tarantino style death to appeal to all the modern PS4 and Xbox gamers. Sephiroth will fly down and slice her head clean off. It will bounce down the stairs like the White Materia and fall into the lake which turns red from all the BLOOD. Her body will spray blood everywhere including up Clouds face as the headless body flap its hands in the air dramatically before collapsing on the floor. Rock n roll.