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Old 06/19/2012   #886
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http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/...ew-the-finale/

The Wall Street Journal interview with Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko done by Christopher John Farley. Reconfirms that Iroh is Zuko's grandson, not his son. They also have this to say about Lin Bei Fong's sacrifice, which may seem cruel to some people but makes perfect sense from a dramatic storytelling perspective.
Bryke wrote: A lot of fans were struck by the scene in which Lin Beifong sacrifices herself and then has her bending taken away. What was it like creating that sequence?

Konietzko: I like nothing more than a character sacrificing himself or herself for the sake of others. That’s drama at its finest for me.

DiMartino: That scene is definitely one of my favorites from the whole first season. It’s got so much emotion wrapped up in it. In terms of her past relationship with Tenzin, and the fact that his family are the last airbenders and she’s willing to make this sacrifice to save them. And Jeremy’s music in that section just brought home the whole tragic feeling.
This is what they have to say on the possibility of a third season of The Legend of Korra
Bryke wrote: How many seasons do you see yourselves doing “Korra” and when will there be a decision on a third season?

Konietzko: Those aren’t really the decisions that we make. I see that with the fans too. I think they think Mike and I pick the show up and greenlight it. That’s not the way it works.

DiMartino: We have story ideas for past book two. So we will see if and when those stories come to light.
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Old 06/19/2012   #887
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http://korranation.tumblr.com/post/2...g-over-mtvgeek
Interesting opportunity for those with Twitter accounts:
Korra Nation wrote: ‘The Legend of Korra’ cast will be taking over @MTVGeek starting Wednesday!

Hey, Korra Nation! Starting this Wednesday, the cast of Korra will be taking over the @MTVGeek twitter account to answer your questions!

Each Korra voice actor will be on the @MTVGeek twitter account for a half hour. Check out the lineup below:

P.J. Byrne (Bolin): Wednesday, 6/20 @ 2:30 EST/11:30 PST

David Faustino (Mako): Thursday 6/21 @ 2:30 EST/11:30 PST

Janet Varney (Korra): Friday 6/22 @ 1:00 EST/10:00 PST

Ask questions in advance by tweeting at @MTVGeek and using the hashtag #KorraMTVGeek.

Via MTV Geek

6/19/2012
Considering the state of the Korra-fandom on tumblr, I sure hope David Faustino does not get much misdirected hate on Thursday.
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Old 06/19/2012   #888
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Zealkin wrote: THANK YOU. SERIOUSLY. Some people were commenting on his post saying OH SINCE HE'S A GUY IT'S A OKAY??!!!11 And no that's not what he was saying. Teenagers in general are just dumb sometimes, Mako's proof of this.
why i don't like mako is: he's still a protag character (rather than say zuko, who had to debate with himself for seasons on the right choice before he finally made it), the only person who seems to be bringing this up as a bad thing is asami (likely because she knows him best at this point and he has all but abandoned her for korra from what we've seen), and as of yet, not much has happened that would make mako realize CHEATING IS BAD MMKAY. i mean, yeah, there's the last episode, but you'd think he'd learn this lesson idk BEFORE THE CITY WAS BURNING. i would just rather see mako mature more before makorra happens and im feeling like that won't really happen this season and feel concerned that they'll push for makorra anyways.
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Old 06/19/2012   #889
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Alessa Gillespie wrote: why i don't like mako is: he's still a protag character (rather than say zuko, who had to debate with himself for seasons on the right choice before he finally made it), the only person who seems to be bringing this up as a bad thing is asami (likely because she knows him best at this point and he has all but abandoned her for korra from what we've seen), and as of yet, not much has happened that would make mako realize CHEATING IS BAD MMKAY. i mean, yeah, there's the last episode, but you'd think he'd learn this lesson idk BEFORE THE CITY WAS BURNING. i would just rather see mako mature more before makorra happens and im feeling like that won't really happen this season and feel concerned that they'll push for makorra anyways.
Mako has gotten in-universe flak from Bolin and Korra as well, not just Asami.

And Mako knows that cheating is bad, he immediately regretted kissing Korra back. Other than that all Mako has done has been extra-supportive of Korra as friend, but is admittedly having his unresolved affection for Korra show in his acts of kindness. So while it is true Mako has unresolved feelings for Korra, Mako has never said he never wants to address it, he simply wants postpone discussion of it until after the war is over (of course storytelling mechanics will likely somehow have/force him to confront and resolve his issues during the Season Finale).

And there have been plenty of protagonists in fiction who have held affections/feelings for more than one person, and they are still respected as characters.
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Old 06/19/2012   #890
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Theozilla wrote: Mako has gotten in-universe flak from Bolin and Korra as well, not just Asami.

And Mako knows that cheating is bad, he immediately regretted kissing Korra back. Other than that all Mako has done has been extra-supportive of Korra as friend, but is admittedly having his unresolved affection for Korra show in his acts of kindness. So while it is true Mako has unresolved feelings for Korra, Mako has never said he never wants to address it, he simply wants postpone discussion of it until after the war is over (of course storytelling mechanics will likely somehow have/force him to confront and resolve his issues during the Season Finale).

And there have been plenty of protagonists in fiction who have held affections/feelings for more than one person, and they are still respected as characters.
aerith didn't tongue cloud while she was dating zack.

so basically what mako wants is rather than breaking it off with his girlfriend or at least giving her the decency of a conversation when he barely gives her the time of day is to ask to wait on it while he looks all moon-eyed at korra? im sorry, but no, that is a shitty way to respond. it's selfish, especially since korra herself said that asami needed him now. it's not that i don't understand why he does it. i just don't like him for it.
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Old 06/20/2012   #891
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Alessa Gillespie wrote: aerith didn't tongue cloud while she was dating zack.
There are still plenty of other protagonists (that are well liked by their fandoms) that have been in Love Triangles like Mako is in.

Alessa Gillespie wrote: so basically what mako wants is rather than breaking it off with his girlfriend or at least giving her the decency of a conversation when he barely gives her the time of day is to ask to wait on it while he looks all moon-eyed at korra? im sorry, but no, that is a shitty way to respond. it's selfish, especially since korra herself said that asami needed him now. it's not that i don't understand why he does it. i just don't like him for it.
No, he he simply does not want his relationship problems get in the way of the war. He is simply arguing that his and Asami's relationship problems are not the most important thing at the moment and that saving Republic City is their main priority. It is not the most graceful or sensitive way to handle relationship problems but it is certainly not motivated by selfishness or malicious intent.
And Mako does not intentionally/consciously act "moon-eyed"/lovey-dovey towards Korra, it is more part of his "tunnel vision" flaw (that is definitely being influenced by his unresolved feelings towards Korra) of overly focusing on one person or thing that is in trouble that he cares about.
And again Mako's character arc (in terms of his romantic relationships) is still not over, it is going to get resolved. Maybe he'll break up with Asami or vice versa, or maybe he and Asami will repair their relationship (that would be very surprising, but I don't think it is inconceivable of Bryke going that route).

EDIT: Just to be clear I am not arguing that one should not be allowed to dislike Mako, just I am arguing against the accusation/statement that his character is being intentionally malicious/selfish (and character bashing in general).
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Old 06/20/2012   #892
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No, he he simply does not want his relationship problems get in the way of the war. He is simply arguing that his and Asami's relationship problems are not the most important thing at the moment and that saving Republic City is their main priority. It is not the most graceful or sensitive way to handle relationship problems but it is certainly not motivated by selfishness or malicious intent.
honestly i think the excuse of "let's talk about it later" is such a cop out on mako's part esp considering how much time he had to sort all this shit out beforehand

plus the fact that ASAMI CLEARLY GIVES HIM A WAY OUT. she flat out asks how he feels about korra and he lies to her, again, and then pushes her aside to dote on korra. he seems determined to drag this shit out until he has severely hurt asami; the fact that he lacks any awareness to realize this is what he's doing is really ridiculous

like how do you not know that barking orders at your gf to dote on your crush/flat out ignoring your gf to act physically affectionate towards someone else is a shitty thing to do

how do you not know

he and Asami will repair their relationship (that would be very surprising, but I don't think it is inconceivable of Bryke going that route).
i hope asami pours gasoline in his breakfast is that too mean


also this all comes back to shitty pacing. half of the reason this is incredibly frustrating is that mako and korra literally have no reason (beyond the most shallow) to even like each other. where did mako's sudden surge of affection even come from? and hilariously enough for a main character/love interest we know the least about him personally aside from some quick exposition. also why does korra even like him? i feel like this is where the series takes two steps forward and one step back; we have a strong POC female lead and her love story is basically "the hot jackass who ignores you will eventually come around"

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Old 06/20/2012   #893
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Mako's a dumbass. I think everyone can agree on this.

Mako is also a 17 year old boy who's not very good with his own emotions.

Sentence 2 rather neatly explains sentence 1 and the ways he cocked up with this whole LT thing. I'm not going to vilify him just for being a dipshit, but yes, the boy absolutely needs to start working on being more open and honest with everyone, and that includes himself.

Mako is the archetype of 'this is my problem, no one else's, no one else should have to bother with this' and gets defensive when folks call him on it. It's stupid, but I can see entirely why he's grown accustomed to that coping method for various issues.
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Old 06/20/2012   #894
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Jill Valentine wrote: honestly i think the excuse of "let's talk about it later" is such a cop out on mako's part esp considering how much time he had to sort all this shit out beforehand

plus the fact that ASAMI CLEARLY GIVES HIM A WAY OUT. she flat out asks how he feels about korra and he lies to her, again, and then pushes her aside to dote on korra. he seems determined to drag this shit out until he has severely hurt asami; the fact that he lacks any awareness to realize this is what he's doing is really ridiculous

like how do you not know that barking orders at your gf to dote on your crush/flat out ignoring your gf to act physically affectionate towards someone else is a shitty thing to do

how do you not know
It may be a excuse, but he still does have a decent point, a war is bad time to try resolve/discuss relationship problems. Mako is lying not simply to Asami, Mako lies to himself and suppresses his feelings often, he himself likely does not realize that his feelings for Korra are influencing his behaviors, it is an intentional character flaw in order to create drama. Like Ryushikaze (FYI Mako is 18 years old) said
Mako is the archetype of "this is my problem, no one else's, no one else should have to bother with this" and gets defensive when folks call him on it.

Jill Valentine wrote: i hope asami pours gasoline in his breakfast is that too mean

also this all comes back to shitty pacing. half of the reason this is incredibly frustrating is that mako and korra literally have no reason (beyond the most shallow) to even like each other. where did mako's sudden surge of affection even come from? and hilariously enough for a main character/love interest we know the least about him personally aside from some quick exposition. also why does korra even like him? i feel like this is where the series takes two steps forward and one step back; we have a strong POC female lead and her love story is basically "the hot jackass who ignores you will eventually come around"

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I am not going to argue about the show's pacing, that is another debate entirely, but Mako's and Korra's feelings for each other are not more sudden/shallow than Mako's and Asami's affection for each other or Bolin's affection for Korra other. And Mako never ignored Korra beyond episode 2.
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Old 06/20/2012   #895
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This is from Nick.com (from the NICKFrog use, the Nickelodeon "representative" account or something): http://www.nick.com/mynick/messagebo...26511&offset=0
It contains a little bit of new info. We’ll be seeing another rally which we saw in the promo, and the Equalists are aware of the United Forces headed to the city so hopefully Iroh has a backup plan.
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Old 06/20/2012   #896
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Ryushikaze wrote: Mako is the archetype of 'this is my problem, no one else's, no one else should have to bother with this' and gets defensive when folks call him on it. It's stupid, but I can see entirely why he's grown accustomed to that coping method for various issues.
i'd be more okay with this as a flaw if there was any indication of him growing out of it before makorra happened? but given the clip from the last episode this seems doubtful at this point. maybe this will be some big conflict in the second season, idk, but it really bugs me that all of his junk feels like it has pretty much made his brother into a scapegoat and a plot device.

is this going to be a distraction when the war effort is going on? yes. but i think it'll be even worse if he continues to put it off and continue to pursue korra.
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Old 06/20/2012   #897
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Alessa Gillespie wrote: i'd be more okay with this as a flaw if there was any indication of him growing out of it before makorra happened? but given the clip from the last episode this seems doubtful at this point. maybe this will be some big conflict in the second season, idk, but it really bugs me that all of his junk feels like it has pretty much made his brother into a scapegoat and a plot device.

is this going to be a distraction when the war effort is going on? yes. but i think it'll be even worse if he continues to put it off and continue to pursue korra.
What, you think Mako and Korra are going to start dating or have a kissing moment during the middle of the finale before Mako and Asami have broken up or something?

As for the clips, Mako and Korra being affectionate with each other is not the same thing as Mako pursuing Korra for a romantic relationship, it is just them being honest about their emotions.

Personally, I think most likely outcome is that something will force Asami and Mako to finally resolve their problems, and if it does end up with them breaking up, I could see some romantic Makorra moment at the very end, e.g. Mako bringing Korra out of the Avatar State or something.
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Old 06/20/2012   #898
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Theozilla wrote: What, you think Mako and Korra are going to start dating or have a kissing moment during the middle of the finale before Mako and Asami have broken up or something?

As for the clips, Mako and Korra being affectionate with each other is not the same thing as Mako pursuing Korra for a romantic relationship, it is just them being honest about their emotions.

Personally, I think most likely outcome is that something will force Asami and Mako to finally resolve their problems, and if it does end up with them breaking up, I could see some romantic Makorra moment at the very end, e.g. Mako bringing Korra out of the Avatar State or something.
honestly, during their talk, the way it was cut at the end made it look like they were going to start smoochin. which would be immensely disappointing for me should that happen because it seems like a lot of other issues should be solved before that happens.
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Old 06/20/2012   #899
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Alessa Gillespie wrote: honestly, during their talk, the way it was cut at the end made it look like they were going to start smoochin. which would be immensely disappointing for me should that happen because it seems like a lot of other issues should be solved before that happens.
I'll admit if the clip does follow up with them kissing and the context takes place before any break-up (which we don't know for sure), it would make both Korra and Mako look much more insensitive than usual, but I think it is more likely they are going to be interrupted by someone (due to the quivering/crescendo music).
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Old 06/20/2012   #900
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Why is Korra helping Mako find his brother and learning about his past, not enough for Korra to at least START liking him? Episode 3 seemed to be a pretty good indicator that she was starting to have feelings for him, especially when she grabbed his arm in order to be "in disguise". Plus the fact that they're on the same team and would have been training for awhile is enough background to start attraction.

If you're going to say Korra's attraction to Mako is shallow, Asami and his is even more so in that light. Personally I think both relationships developed to a certain extent, but why is Korra and Mako's relationship the only one that is deemed shallow?
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