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Compilation General Discussions on the entire timeline of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII not limited to a single title, including the tie-ins from Final Fantasy X, and speculation on future content. |
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![]() Feel free to use the above template if you venture into auctions for the same purpose (and if you, like me, can't write your own Japanese sentences ![]() I created a Yahoo JP account this morning. Where google translate wasn't enough, I received aid from this YouTube video. The only bit I had trouble with was the postal code and the video shows you the wide range of Japanese postal codes you can pick. I have thusly sent the inquiry about installed games to plenty of P903i auctions and two P900iV auctions. EDIT: Add numerous P904i and N904i to that list. ![]() As far as my eBay ventures go, questions about what games are on the phone(s) have been met with "I have no idea" a dozen times. Sometimes the seller can't check because the battery is not functional. One time there was a phone with "Mobile Hawk & Black Jack" on it. (SPOILER) You'll find a few sellers who like selling mobile phones in bulk and you are pretty much out of luck there. Not only are the sellers unwilling to check each individual phone for games, but the explanation behind the origins of these phones indicate that they don't contain games downloaded by users, since they apparently never entered the market. Example from such an eBay auction that had the courtesy of including a background explanation: Sketchy origins are sketchy. Either way, they don't have what we're looking for. Last edited by Shademp; 10/01/2017 at 04:48 PM. |
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The P900iV manual states that the phone came pre-installed with a port of the original Final Fantasy. There are no specifications about whether this is a complete or incomplete installation. "BombLink" was another pre-installed game.
![]() ![]() Thus far the replies from Yahoo JP Auctions, when I ask what games are on the phone, are 7 times out of 8 "The phone has been initialized/reset". *EDIT: In other words, any game that might have been on the phone, pre-installed or not, has been deleted.* One time a seller could not confirm the games present because they don't have a functional battery. Last edited by Shademp; 10/02/2017 at 08:00 AM. |
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Mobile games of the pre-smartphone era were based in Java, ergo you need a Java emulator to play them.
- Here is where I downloaded a Java emulator The download includes the game "Prince of Persia" but that was too boring. I downloaded Sonic Jump and had a great, GREAT time! ![]() Before completing Sonic Jump today I had actually never beaten a Sonic game legitimately! Quoting the emulator download page: This reddit thread passionately talks about the state of J2ME/Java/Jar/Midlet emulation and the limited efforts to preserve the software. Before Crisis is mentioned as an example of a game that risks being lost, if it hasn't already disappeared completely. Remind me to at some point create reddit threads about the FFVII Mobile Game Initiative. ![]() In the Japanese credits to Dirge of Cerberus: Lost Episode -Final Fantasy VII- there is a bit devoted to the "DoJa Port" staff. Credits section So what does this mean? Since the English version of Lost Episode was released over two months before the Japanese version, and with the 3D graphics side of things having been handled by Ideaworks 3D rather than Square Enix, it is my conclusion that the Japanese version is in a way a "port" of the English one. Ergo, the Java of the English game was adapted over to the "DoJa" profile, mentioned during the JP ending credits. Last edited by Shademp; 10/02/2017 at 06:10 PM. |
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According to imkrut, creator of the aforementioned reddit thread...
To play Sonic Jump, I used "KEmulator". So on this, my first day of looking into emulators for old mobile phone games, I now know of four emulators: - KEmulator - Midp2Exe - MicroEmulator - FreeJ2ME Som emulators are still being updated, some are not. Excerpt from the FreeJ2ME download page, which was updated seven days ago: The reddit thread also seems to show that nobody has extracted or found Japanese .jar files (i.e. ROMs), so there's no precedence that demonstrates if the DoJa profile of games like JP Lost Episode is at all compatible with current Java emulators. Last edited by Shademp; 10/02/2017 at 09:43 PM. |
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I did NOT include contact info in that message! I was trying to inform a person who is selling the P900iV where they might find batteries for the phone but even when I included no website links eBay decided to restrict my account. I've contacted eBay customer support about this unfair restriction.
Interestingly, this seller faced the same issue as Channy did when she bought the P900iV. This prompted me to look up what in the actual heck is going on here... Years ago, the Japan Post Office banned lithium ion batteries from being shipped (primarily banning shipping by airplane), though there were a few expensive and cumbersome ways to get the batteries shipped. A comment written four years ago to the article reads... If the restrictions in the document still applies, then you can only have the batteries shipped if they are already installed in electronics. You can't ship lithium ion batteries by themselves. ...Well then. The cheapest way to get P900iV batteries then would be to order a phone with the battery already inside it. Unlike in the past, the battery SHOULD not be removed while it's being shipped. Japan is not alone in their fear of lithium ion batteries on airplanes. The Federal Avian Administration has limitations put on the shipping of such batteries and there are international regulations, put in place last year, that place the same restriction as Japan that the batteries must be shipped while inside electronic equipment. HOOBOY ![]() Last edited by Shademp; 10/04/2017 at 10:45 AM. |
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So, I honestly don't know if it's legit, and I'm at work so I'm limited on what the firewall lets me download, but, this site claims to have an .iso of DOC Lost Episode.
http://nycgames.info/download/dirge_...vii__7057.html |
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We can safely say that these files are not legit. There is absolutely no reason for the files to be so big, in the ranges of 4.7 to 7.4 gigabytes. I won't even bother downloading them because I don't want my computer infested with the malware and viruses that are sure to come with them. If we find legit Lost Episode download links I expect them to be only a few megabytes in size. Possibly in the .jar format.
Thanks for being on the lookout though Kionae ![]() I've found as many as five download links (one has expired by now though, because it violated the google terms of service) that raise red flags for me. I dare not download these, much less install them. All of these are on google docs. - One - Two - Three - Four If you dare look into these files I will take no responsibility for the harm done to your computer or any compromise of your personal info and bank accounts. ![]() |
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Last night I discovered that the reason the Wayback Machine wasn't working for me was that I had too many cookies and/or I had corrupt cookies. After deleting the cookies I can now re-engage in the archeological digs!
The archived review of Lost Episode by Game industry News stands out because it lists multiple items, and their effects, that aren't described in such detail in any other English source I have found thus far. Holy smokes! This makes the inventory of Lost Episode filled with FAR MORE Final Fantasy VII nostalgia than the PS2 game by a longshot! The existence of these types of items and accessories is corroborated in the review by PinoyGenius: So in summary, from the Game industry News review... Items EDIT: The review by Games industry News still exists outside of the Internet Archive, it was merely moved. Last edited by Shademp; 10/04/2017 at 03:35 PM. |
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In 2006 on August 18, when Dirge of Cerberus: Lost Episode -Final Fantasy VII- (boy the full title is such a mouthful) was released on the Amp'd Live game store, Amp'd Mobile had three phones: The Jet, Angel & Hollywood.
![]() - Kyocera KX18 "Jet"No archived variation of the game's product page specify which phones it was compatible with. Whenever a mobile game was limited to this or that phone type, the limitation was worked into the product name, for example: - Resident Evil: The Missions (Hollywood)Since it was part of Amp'd Mobile's strategy to advertise how all their phones were compatible with 3D gaming (in multiplayer and on the 3G network to top it off!), and given that there are no compatibilities listed at all for mobile Dirge of Cerberus, I'm going to assume it was compatible with all these phones. The compatibility of the Motorola E816 (aka "Hollywood") should come as no surprise, since its predecessor the Motorola E815 was already confirmed compatible with Lost Episode on the Verizon platform. After Dirge's mobile release, Amp'd would come to release two new cell phones. - Motorola Razr Amp'd Edition "MOTORAZR" **Nicknames, abbreviations and lower- and upper case for these phones may vary depending on the source. ![]() The Motorola Razr was released only two months or so after Dirge of Cerberus. Advertisements of it also include the classic CG shot of Vincent Valentine. MOTORAZR & Vincent It would be pretty weird if this phone wasn't compatible with Lost Episode. The same would hold true for the Motorola Q given Amp'd Mobile's focus on portable 3D gaming, but... Holy smokes this is a weird phone. MOTO Q and the keypad of death This looks like a pain in the a$$ to play games on. I will proceed to add these phones to the list in the opening post but with the disclaimer that Lost Episode's exact compatibilities on the Amp'd platform are more or less speculative. Amp'd mobile phones are pretty rare on eBay. Probably has something to do with the company existing for less than 2 years. There is one promising-sounding specification from their archived FAQ page though. If my understanding of the tech is correct, this should increase the likelihood of finding an Amp'd phone with Lost Episode on it. Last edited by Shademp; 10/06/2017 at 06:17 AM. Reason: *release date & grammar |
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Correction to previous post: Lost Episode was released on August 18, not August 22. Though a press release about Lost Episode was also released on the 22nd.
Of course it's not impossible that the release date for Lost Episode was changed: The initial release date for the PS2 game was August 22 but this was later changed to August 15. All of these advertisements sound quite exciting and I very much wish I could get my hands on them all. I expect most have been lost to time though. There are no video previews for Dirge to be found when searching Amp'd with the Wayback Machine but flash videos for a few other games were preserved. - Amp'd Live: Four Game Previews A reference to the "limited online giveaway to receive a highly articulated Vincent Valentine action figure with purchase" can be found via the Wayback Machine. - Amp'd Main Page: 2006 October 12 capture ![]() Only the above capture includes the advertisement and following the link reveals that the page for the "Final Fantasy Game Package" has not been archived. I have found no more references to this deal, so the details of Amp'd Mobile's FF Game Package and how long it lasted are unknown to us. It is only because of the press release that we can be confident the action figure was that of Vincent Valentine but we don't know the exact model. After browsing all of Amp'd Mobile's press releases I've confirmed that there are no references to Square Enix or Final Fantasy. Apart from the Dirge of Cerberus product in the games section, the only Square Enix reference I found was in the profile page for Seth Cummings. Seth Cummings makes an appearance in an article about Lost Episode and Amp'd Mobile's exclusivity deal with Square Enix. This is also where we find our third reference to the multiplayer and this time specifically in the context of Amp'd, though the information isn't really new and the original source might as well have been the official Square Enix press release. Last edited by Shademp; 10/06/2017 at 03:57 PM. |
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My next post about Amp'd Mobile will have to wait because I just browsed a dope-a$$ link in the Wayback Machine!
![]() - The Official NA Square Enix page for Dirge of Cerberus: Lost Episode Going by the captures, the Lost Episode page disappeared at some point between 2011, September 9 and 2015, November 4. Observing when the main hub page for the North American "Square Enix Mobile" page disappeared and when other parts of the site vanished, we can narrow the time of death down to... 2012 April 2 <---> 2013 July 3 With a total of 54 functional captures for the official NA DoC: Lost Episode page we can observe how it changed overtime. Perhaps most usefully, it increases our list of officially compatible phones! The old compatibility list for Verizon phones stemmed around the game's release around November of 2006 and indeed the official NA Square site starts with the same list. By June 11 of 2007, four more phones had been added to the Verizon Wireless list! - Motorola K1M KRZRNo more phones were added to the list after this point, neither for Amp'd nor for Verizon phones. The "Key Features" initially (October 17) writes about the planned multiplayer mode, with text copied STRAIGHT from the May 11 press release about Lost Episode. Indeed you'll recognize that even more text from the press release was copied onto the Key Features section. ![]() Between November 30 and December 20, these two sentences about the multiplayer were removed. However, the question about the multiplayer (read the FAQ section) remained the same throughout all 54 functional captures of the page. The instructions on how to download the game via Amp'd Live starts out like this in the site captures. Between November 20 and December 30, the third point is FINALLY updated to read: The download instructions for Amp'd Live remains at all times, despite all of Amp'd Mobile's services being discontinued by midnight of July 31, 2007. So what about the Verizon instructions? At some point between December 20, 2006 and February 2, 2007, instructions were added. Between May 13 and June 11 of 2007, the instructions for the point 2 changes. The "V CAST" was Verizon's section and branding for the most recent, hottest content they had available. At some point in 2007, all V CAST references disappear from their website. Ergo, the removal of Dirge of Cerberus from V CAST had nothing to do with the game becoming old news but rather the entire section being removed from their website and marketing. |
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With Verizon, we have no clear timeline for Lost Episode's presence on its game store. The game is approximated to have appeared on November 2006 but we have no exact date and we can't even confirm the YEAR that the game disappeared from the online store. It's even difficult to pin down exactly WHEN Verizon Wireless stopped providing games!
![]() With the Amp'd Mobile version, the story is very different. We know Lost Episode was released in the third quarter of August 2006 and that Amp'd Mobile ceased all their services on midnight July 31, 2007 (or midnight August 1, the exact midnight is a little unclear). The newest archived reference to Dirge in the Amp'd Live store is from July 6, 2007. We can pretty confidently say then that Dirge of Cerberus: Lost Episode was available in this online game store for just over 11 months. There is reason to debate whether the release date was August 18 or August 22, since I noticed just now that the standard practice was for NA Square Enix to have press releases on the DAY a game became available in stores. This would make Lost Episode the odd one out if it wasn't released on August 22, given the press release from that day. Still, that limits us to the third quarter of August and a four-day window. Browsing the archived Amp'd Mobile homepage was quite the journey. With Amp'd marketing themselves towards 18-35 year-olds and early adopters of tech, the site's marketing became focused on: - Sports: Motocross, snowboarding, skateboarding, NASCAR, bull riding etc.Just like on Verizon Wireless, two-thirds of marketed mobile games had "3D" in their title. ![]() On June 1, 2007, Amp'd filed for chapter eleven bankruptcy. So what happened? This article about "12 Epic Financial Failures" describes the end of Amp'd in the most concise, entertaining fashion I could find. Rest in peace, Amp'd Mobile. We hardly knew ye. ✝ Q4 2005 - July 31, 2007 EDIT: The sources are a little unclear if the Amp'd services discontinued on the midnight transitioning from July 31 to August 1, or the midnight of August 1 transitioning to August 2 Last edited by Shademp; 10/07/2017 at 10:17 AM. |
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![]() ![]() The official Square Enix NA page for FFVII Snowboarding has not been archived. However, there are pages that temporarily hosted the full information page for advertising purposes. The newest archived information page for FFVII Snowboarding is from September 21, 2005. Only two phones are listed here, with the Audiovox 8940 and Samsung A890 yet to be added. Ergo, the archives won't reveal to us any more compatible phones. Thanks to Marcelo X we have confirmation for a total of four phones. The main page also advertised FFVII Snowboarding for well over a year, before it was replaced with news about Lost Episode. Instructions on how to download FFVII Snowboarding: I am yet to find an information page on Verizon Wireless for this game and it's not likely that I will find one. Not even the page for Lost Episode has been saved. We only have references to it in archived game lists when it comes to the Verizon archives. An archived page from Gamespot teases us with a non-archived video of Ichiro Otobe and Kosei Ito being interviewed in the context of FFVII Snowboarding's release. The video is no longer hosted on Gamespot. Thumbnail preview: ![]() The video probably contained the same general info found in this Gamespot article from that time but it still irks me that it hasn't been saved. I created a topic about this on the Gamespot forums but I expect nothing to come of it. Last edited by Shademp; 10/07/2017 at 03:11 PM. |
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I didn't even have a phone that could have played shit like this until 2012. How did all this happen in the mid-2000s?
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