FFVII CHARACTER SMACKDOWN - The Neutrals Championship

[Shademp]

LicoriceAllsorts wrote:

That sounds like my kind of place. Is it a... mossy isle?

[BforBrigitta]

Goddamnit with your logic, Licorice! You're too good but not good enough VOTE CHOCOBO, great match; my brain was doing the equivalent of the post-exercise lying on the sidewalk and panting like a dog. You wore me out!

[Channy]

Shademp wrote:

On what basis should I cast my vote? The team that made me laugh the most or the one that was the most insane in its attempts to convince who would win in a fight? I am struggling over here.

Vote for who sold you an FFVII phone

[Clement Rage]

I motion to approve the use of bribery in future rounds.

I'm so glad I got to talk about the mechanics of time travel. It's so nostalgic.

[BforBrigitta]

Clement Rage wrote:

I motion to approve the use of bribery in future rounds.

I'm so glad I got to talk about the mechanics of time travel. It's so nostalgic.

You were a natural! An excellent teammate

[LicoriceAllsorts]

You guys and your rapping! It was magical. The best way to fight logic is with poetry.

[Joe]

Okay I'm here to cast my official vote as a judge of this round. I've been reading all posts since the beginning and have gone back and forth several times. Great work everyone.

First, a little something about the person you're trying to impress:
I have played barely any of FFVII. The furthest I have got is, funnily enough, up to Don Corneo's mansion. I've played CC and watched ACC a whole bunch of times. I've been part of this community (through ACF) for over ten years so have peripheral knowledge of the whole game, but nothing firsthand.

What this basically amounts to is a lack of any real opinion on most all of the characters we're pitting against each other. If you tell me the chocobo driver can time travel, I will believe you. HOWEVER. Be careful what you say as you may be opening your character up to greater criticism. I'll be deciding my winner based on the strength of the team's argument and how convinced I am of their feats.


How I made my choice:
I quickly realised that this wouldn't be easy within the first two posts. Both Lic and Roger opened this smackdown in an incredible way. I was all "OH SHIT DIS GON BE GOOD"

I decided to come up with an almost arbitrary point system to help me keep track of my own journey through these posts. The first post netted a few points for opening the argument and then afterwards I allocated each team between 1-5 points every time I was won over by their side or thought an interesting point had been brought up.

I also allocated extra points based solely on creativity. The raps and images were great and did a lot to endear me to that side.

Finally I wanted to allocate an additional full 5 points to what I considered the best post in the entire fight.
Unfortunately in this case there was a tie between two posts, from opposing teams. They were still took into account but inevitably made no difference.


My Choice

It was really tough and while I won't show the point allocations, believe me it was damn close. The winner for me by a small margin is:

Luxiere !

While Luxiere doesn't seem to come across as an overly strong or courageous individual compared to others, he does have the training and has had the leadership.
What ultimately let Chocobo Driver down here were claims to his time travel shenanigans. Once this apparent feat was brought to the table he became more open to criticism and seemed ultimately weaker as his actions betrayed this apparent truth.

My personal MVP for this round was Licorice for opening the fight and having the stamina to go the full distance in support of her fighter.
Special mention goes to Minato for his first post in defense of his character. Right at the beginning of the smackdown I thought this post alone had sealed the deal as a clear winner. Unfortunately it didn't pan out that way but props where props are due.

Well done to all participants and I'll see you in the next round!

[f a n c y]

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I love everything about this


Thanks so much, Joe!! Really solid post!

[f a n c y]

Your spectators (and audience) have spoken.

Round 1-1’s Winner is…

VICTORY GOES TO TEAM MOOGLE!!!


Spectator’s MVP

✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*LicoriceAllsorts*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧

The ‘pool’ that we’re drawing team players from

• Bforbrigitta
• Channy
• ChipNoir
• Clement Rage
• Elessar
• Ergo Proxy (Moss)
• Fancy - spectates when necessary
• Joe - spectating
• LicoriceAllsorts
• Minato
• Mr. Ite
• robotwarui - spectating
• solo player sab

Let me know if anyone has a problem with this list.

In the next few hours, I’m going to be making some adjustments to the rules and assigning folks to their new teams. Please note that the next round will happen over a span of 96 hours, with 72 hours dedicated to battling and 24 for spectator voting. We’ll see how this goes and decide if we want this to be a permanent rule change.

Look forward to the next battle post!

[Minato]

Congrats Lic, sab and Channy, well fought! Thank you dearly, all of my teammates. We did everything that could be done with Chocobo Driver, no question about that.

[f a n c y]

Round 1-2

Your Teams...



LicoriceAllsorts
Clement Rage
solo player sab
Minato
Bforbrigitta




Channy
ChipNoir
Ergo Proxy
Mr. Ite
Elessar


Your Champions...

VS


The Location...


Seventh Heaven (Bar Area)

Cloud’s Mum - Loving, single mother of one. Thinks an older woman would do just fine for her boy...
Are you ready Team Chocobo?

Time Guardian - An ancient force found in the Temple of….Ancients….
Are you ready Team Moogle?

___________________


The countdown begins when the first team player posts!

[BforBrigitta]

The Time Guardian's job is to observe time and ensure that all occurring events are in line with what is destined to happen, no?

Therefore, without Cloud's mother, there would be no Cloud. There would be no coincidental run-in with Barret and co., there would be no AVALANCHE, and therefore there would be no ragtag team of misfit heroes to thwart JENOVA and Meteorfall.

The destruction of Gaia does not align with the interests of the universe, and therefore the Time Guardian has no obligation to disrupt this chain of events.

It is because of this that Cloud's mother, the one who gave life to Cloud and helped steer him along his destined path, is untouchable to the Time Guardian.

[f a n c y]

OH SNAP, SHE SAID WHA?!

Let the record show that the battle phase of Round 1-2 was initiated by Team Chocobo on 8th May, 09:48 GMT.

All players have until...
11th May, 09:48 GMT
...to make their cases.

Here's a link to a time zone converter in case anyone needs it.

Best of luck!

[Ergo]

Bforbrigitta wrote:

The Time Guardian's job is to observe time and ensure that all occurring events are in line with what is destined to happen, no?

Therefore, without Cloud's mother, there would be no Cloud. There would be no coincidental run-in with Barret and co., there would be no AVALANCHE, and therefore there would be no ragtag team of misfit heroes to thwart JENOVA and Meteorfall.

The destruction of Gaia does not align with the interests of the universe, and therefore the Time Guardian has no obligation to disrupt this chain of events.

It is because of this that Cloud's mother, the one who gave life to Cloud and helped steer him along his destined path, is untouchable to the Time Guardian.

Clouds mother provided no help whatsoever during the events of ffvii. Her only attributing factor is that she gave birth to cloud, that said had she not given birth to him then Zack wouldn't have died trying to protect him leading to the possible future where he became the main protagonist protecting the planet...and you know who would be there to record all that? Our little hero the time guardian, seemingly immortal and happy enough to let you navigate his clock puzzle and get a characters ultimate weapon.

Did clouds mum do that? No.
She couldn't even dodge a fire spell from a nutter with severe mother issues.

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Cloud's mother is clearly mortal, while the Time Guardian is clearly immortal. If this smackdown is to the death, then the Time Guardian's inability to die means that all it has to do to win is be patient. It doesn't even have to go to 7th Heaven to win. It doesn't have to lift a single finger (or whatever it has instead of hands). It can sit in its dank retreat in the Temple of the Guardians and wait for Mrs Strife to die of old age. Hardly what one would call a fair fight, let alone an exciting one.

But what if it were a nagging smackdown? Who then would throw in the towel first? Not Mrs Strife, that's for sure. She's such a champion nagger, her son literally can't remember her doing anything else. She's got in way more than the 10,000 hours of nagging practice needed to become an expert. Nothing less than Sephiroth's masamune could silence her.

And let's not forget that mother love is the most powerful force in the universe.