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Old 05/02/2014   #1
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Default Terminator: Genisys & New James Cameron Film

So, we have...

• Emilia Clarke: Sarah Connor
• Jason Clarke: John Connor
• Jai Courtney: Kyle Reese
• Arnold Schwarzenegger: The Terminator
• Matt Smith: New Major Character
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Yes please. Daenerys as Sarah Connor, and The Doctor doing more time travel-related stuff in big films?
Hell yes, please.


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Old 05/02/2014   #2
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I'll be cautiously pessimistic about this.
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Old 05/02/2014   #3
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Oh god please no not more of this.
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Old 05/02/2014   #4
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Ok... few questions here, not sure if the answers even exist yet. However...

Are these meant as a reboot? Or does these follow one of the (several) preexisting Terminator continuities? Will this take place in the present (or near present), or will this be in the apocalyptic future? How fucking great it is to have Matt Smith in this movie?

Personally I think the best thing done with the Terminator franchise is still the first movie. The sequel was pretty good, but the kid in it gets real damn annoying. The third and forth films I could do without. The television series had some interesting ideas, but didn't do much with them, admittedly it was cut short by the network and may have been building toward something, but we will never really know.
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Old 05/03/2014   #5
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I think its going to be a reboot.

Im kinda bummed they wont follow up on the Salvation story line but its understandable why they wouldn't/ I loved that movie though it was the first Terminator movie to break stale Terminator formula of

>John connor sees bad terminator
>John is saved by Arnie
>Car chase where baddie has the larger and faster vehicle
>Cop shoot out
>Car chase where baddie has the larger and faster vehicle
>Arnie gets owned.
>Both Terminators go down.

I love the franchise but it seriously was refreshing to see Salvation drop the routine.
I only hope the reboot can change it up as well.
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Old 05/03/2014   #6
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Ok... few questions here, not sure if the answers even exist yet. However...

Are these meant as a reboot? Or does these follow one of the (several) preexisting Terminator continuities? Will this take place in the present (or near present), or will this be in the apocalyptic future? How fucking great it is to have Matt Smith in this movie?

Personally I think the best thing done with the Terminator franchise is still the first movie. The sequel was pretty good, but the kid in it gets real damn annoying. The third and forth films I could do without. The television series had some interesting ideas, but didn't do much with them, admittedly it was cut short by the network and may have been building toward something, but we will never really know.
You know, if I had to make a guess based on the VERY small amount that I've read about it thus far, The fact that we have John, Sarah, & Kyle and the title is "Genesis" sounds like they're going to be looping back into the existing continuity at some point, which would change things into a new continuity going forward.

As a brief overview of my feelings on Terminator:

• T2 was the first R-rated film I ever saw, when I was 6, so John Connor as a punk-ass early '90s kid just reminds me of the exact kind of kids I grew up with, and the T-1000 is still one of my favorite creations ever, and especially impressive technologically speaking.

• I saw Terminator a good while later, and really liked the theme of time travel behind it with Kyle & Sarah in a seeming bootstrap paradox and the fact that it's a lot more of a horror film.

• T3 is the weakest, but it started to address the inevitability of Skynet's apocalypse and Skynet more aggressively going into the past and the Resistance's tactics are known and that because of that, it is building anti-Terminator units.

• Salvation is one where (probably because I got to ask the director a question about how Time Travel functions in the film) I really like what was done with it (and it also shows off a lot of the cool stuff that was done in TSCC but cut off early).

Salvation is the first time we get an insight into the fact that Skynet keeps learning from how it doesn't succeed in various timelines, and that - so long as it sends something back - it keeps staying alive to fight another day, and changes its tactics based on that knowledge. It paints the picture that every. single. victory against Skynet is meaningless if it sends anything back in time, because it just splinters off another timeline where it can save itself. (Unlike some series like Looper, it doesn't overwrite a single continuity, but just keeps shifting into another branch, and all it needs is to win ONE of those - because that final branch is always the timeline we actively follow). TSCC demonstrates that in much greater detail.


The fact that it's planned as a trilogy means that I think that they're playing a long game with what's happening, and I'd be interested in seeing the idea of them actually trying to shut out Skynet from being able to develop time travel after the apocalypse. I think that starting things in a more "modern" pre-apocalypse time in a necessity. Personally, I've always thought it'd be rad to see them doing things in the past, and occasionally jumping forward into the current apocalypse that changes slightly (i.e. would be a different timeline each time we jumped forward to it), as they affect certain points in the past - but that's cause I'm a BIG time travel junkie.



tl;dr - There's no sense in a reboot with a multi-branching time travel series, so I'd bet that they jump in somewhere and start a timeline continuity specific to the film (since that happens in Terminator every time someone/something travels back). I'd guess that it happens in Sarah & Kyle's early timeline, and then moves into the apocalypse later on.

Also - still endlessly happy about Matt Smith being in this.

EDIT: High five to Gabe for also loving Salvation.



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Old 05/03/2014   #7
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High five me too, then.
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Old 05/03/2014   #8
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*High fives Tres, too*



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Old 05/03/2014   #9
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So I guess they're only going to source Sarah Connor from GoT leads now?


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Old 05/03/2014   #10
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Oh thank god I wasn't the only who thought this. That was literally the first thing that came to my mind when the cast was confirmed.



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Old 05/04/2014   #11
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Wonder what new kinds of Terminators we will see. The one thing that I really liked about Terminator 4 was we saw a wide variety of non-humanoid terminators. I would like to see this expanded upon.
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Old 10/30/2014   #12
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Promo images.

They look quite bad.

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^Looks like she misfired the weapon and is terrified because of it.



^The Doctor dude tried his hardest to look as ridiculous and out of place in this movie as possible. He succeeded.



^What the fuck is with the size of his head?
Why are you shooting at the floor, bro?



Also, the movie title is actually Genisys (Miga Dryve in Europe and Japan )
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Old 10/30/2014   #13
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Ah fuck it as long as I get to see Arnie beat the shit out of his other robotic colleagues cos he's ooooooold as fuck then I'm good. Those promo images are ridiculous shit however.
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Old 10/30/2014   #14
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Are they screaming and firing wildly in response to being cast for this thing?
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Old 10/30/2014   #15
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I think I may skip this. they had a good ball rolling with Salvation. Ffs I wanted some future battles already instead of time travelling all over again.
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