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Final Fantasy VII All events from the 1997 classic RPG, with which it all began.

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Old 07/13/2018   #61
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Minato wrote:
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We know he likes snowboarding, chocoboracing, a lot of other minigames, we know he heroworshipped Sephiroth, he gets motionsickness when not behind the wheel of vehicle. He was very embarrassed to not make it in SOLDIER, but the day he initially got a Shinra uniform was the proudest day of his life.

FFVII is a big game, with Cloud as main character reacting to a lot of subjects.

Of course it's a merveillous game, because of its bigger story
It's a big story, but pretty focused on Cloud. We know what his was doing at 7, 14, 16, 20, 21. We get a stronger an impression of his life then any other adult character Square ever presented to us.
You are discounting the entirety of the Xenogears cast if you think Cloud has the strongest impression.
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Old 07/13/2018   #62
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I might be, haven't played that one.
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Old 07/13/2018   #63
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It was the original plot of FF7 til it got abandoned for being too dark and complicated. Another studio was burned to release it on peanuts for a budget. Despite that it was still good. To give you an idea the game spans over several thousand years for its story.
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Old 07/14/2018   #64
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A lot of people, like me, don't care about what might have been, or was meant to be, just what's canon in the present moment. Cloud is far from a vacuum character. It's fine if people just don't like him, that's their right, but "vacuum" implies that there was a huge hole in the plotline which Cloud filled for better lack of a deeper character. I mean, if that's anyone's opinion, cool. I just find it strange. I find him almost too deep, at times.
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Old 07/14/2018   #65
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I know a hardcore Clerith shipper who recently stated that Crisis Core wasn't canon, and I swear... But hey, why let reality get in the way of your shipping OCD?
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Old 07/14/2018   #66
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SoZettaSlow wrote: While he has a point, Cloud feels fine in FFVII it's any other appearance of him that's really weak since Tetsuya Nomura doesnt really do well with consistency.
I really hated the emo persona of Cloud in ACC, but after awhile I kinda got it. He got seriously mindfucked during CC and VII, and the two years after before AC it'd be natural to have some kind of crisis of character. That shit would make anyone doubt their own mind, on top of Zack and Aerith dying making him feel useless. So yeah, now I can watch it with a deeper sense of understanding. I just really, REALLY hope the remake won't have Cloud behaving as he did in AC, cause that shit AINT VII canon!
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Old 07/14/2018   #67
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Lilly Pilly wrote:
SoZettaSlow wrote: While he has a point, Cloud feels fine in FFVII it's any other appearance of him that's really weak since Tetsuya Nomura doesnt really do well with consistency.
I really hated the emo persona of Cloud in ACC, but after awhile I kinda got it. He got seriously mindfucked during CC and VII, and the two years after before AC it'd be natural to have some kind of crisis of character. That shit would make anyone doubt their own mind, on top of Zack and Aerith dying making him feel useless. So yeah, now I can watch it with a deeper sense of understanding. I just really, REALLY hope the remake won't have Cloud behaving as he did in AC, cause that shit AINT VII canon!
I believe we will see a lot of character re-imagining from the FFVII Remake, they already hinted at that. I really doubt Cloud will be the same boy we saw in FFVII.
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Old 07/15/2018   #68
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SoZettaSlow wrote: While he has a point, Cloud feels fine in FFVII it's any other appearance of him that's really weak since Tetsuya Nomura doesnt really do well with consistency.
I really hated the emo persona of Cloud in ACC, but after awhile I kinda got it. He got seriously mindfucked during CC and VII, and the two years after before AC it'd be natural to have some kind of crisis of character. That shit would make anyone doubt their own mind, on top of Zack and Aerith dying making him feel useless. So yeah, now I can watch it with a deeper sense of understanding. I just really, REALLY hope the remake won't have Cloud behaving as he did in AC, cause that shit AINT VII canon!
I believe we will see a lot of character re-imagining from the FFVII Remake, they already hinted at that. I really doubt Cloud will be the same boy we saw in FFVII.
*sighs* you're probably right, as much as I hope you're not.
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Old 07/15/2018   #69
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The only thing I hope for is for Cloud or Sephy to be VA'd by Matt Mercer or Liam o'Brien
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Old 07/15/2018   #70
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I can't agree there!

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Old 07/15/2018   #71
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SoZettaSlow wrote: The only thing I hope for is for Cloud or Sephy to be VA'd by Matt Mercer or Liam o'Brien
I REALLY hope not. Best thing about Steve Burton is that Cloud has a voice we haven't heard come out of a million other characters.
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Old 07/15/2018   #72
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As long as he can channel the cockier Cloud without sounding like a passive aggressive romcom voice. The most unappealing part to me about Cloud has been his voice. It makes me want to bully him.
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Old 07/16/2018   #73
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Minato wrote:
SoZettaSlow wrote: The only thing I hope for is for Cloud or Sephy to be VA'd by Matt Mercer or Liam o'Brien
I REALLY hope not. Best thing about Steve Burton is that Cloud has a voice we haven't heard come out of a million other characters.
Same, yep I love Steve Burton's Cloud.
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