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Final Fantasy VII Remake The remake of FFVII announced at E3 on June 15th, 2015 -- OUR WHOLE LIVES HAVE BEEN LEADING UP TO THIS MOMENT!!

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Old 07/25/2018   #46
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Fair enough. X's story was coherent but didn't interest me.

FFIX's story was fabulous and told with great skill.
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Old 07/25/2018   #47
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XII's story was fairly well told, it just wasn't all that compelling. I've heard Basch was originally going to be the lead, and that sounds like a more interesting variation.

XV's story has some narratively thin places, but is ultimately another well told story. The way it gets you attached to only a few characters only to tear them away from you effects the player in fairly brilliant fashion. Now, I haven't played the game since its initial release, so I can't speak to the implementation of the DLC and changed chapter 13, but I liked it back then. I would consider it another example of the way modern games are telling great stories.
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Old 07/25/2018   #48
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How was chapter 13 changed?
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Old 07/25/2018   #49
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I haven't experienced it myself, as I said, but I've heard you can skip Noctis's part altogether. But if you don't it's still much easier, with his magic getting an overhaul and the space he has to travel much easier to navigate. I'm sure there was something else, but I'll try it out eventually and see for myself.
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Old 07/25/2018   #50
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I didn't find it difficult, and I'm not a particularly skilful gamer, and I wasn't over-levelled. FFXV is a game that a complete noob can easily succeed at.

To explain how much of a noob I am (noob by nature if not in terms of playing hours), I though I'd set the thing to easy mode, and when Carbuncle never showed up I though, Eh, I guess that's just a glitch. I didn't figure out I wasn't in easy mode until after I defeated Ravus.
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Old 07/26/2018   #51
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Haha VIII.

I remember thinking back in the day ‘this is just Dawson’s Creek with more cleavage and amensia’, and that’s still how I describe it today.
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Old 07/26/2018   #52
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Haven't played XV. I don't think 10, 12, and 13 were inferior in how they were told, they just kept (SPOILER) beating the same drum where you're killing God at the end of every game. By the time LR came around I was like "Yeah, I get it, you don't like religion, now can you please tell a new story?"

That said I thought XIII -1's storytelling was truly phenomenal.
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Old 07/26/2018   #53
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LicoriceAllsorts wrote: I didn't find it difficult, and I'm not a particularly skilful gamer
I don't disagree. I found the uproar ridiculous.
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Old 07/26/2018   #54
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I've said before, it was a little overlong. But just a little, the dramatics about it were way out of proportion.

I haven't tried the new version yet, so I can't say how I feel about it.
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Old 07/26/2018   #55
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Clement Rage wrote: Haven't played XV. I don't think 10, 12, and 13 were inferior in how they were told, they just kept [spoiler] beating the same drum where you're killing God at the end of every game. By the time LR came around I was like "Yeah, I get it, you don't like religion, now can you please tell a new story?"
But (SPOILER) teenagers using the power of friendship to kill god is what jrpgs are all about

That said I thought XIII -1's storytelling was truly phenomenal.
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Old 07/26/2018   #56
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I know what Clement means. Killing gods gets really boring when you expect you will be able to kill them. It also raises the stakes so much that having lesser threats don't feel as impactful.

*resists temptation to pull out FFXIV's MSQ*
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Old 07/27/2018   #57
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All the asides of FFVIII-bashing in this thread have made me want to clutch it to my bosom and protect it, like the bruised and battered, dark horse, red-headed stepchild [Classic] that it is.

Hot take: I'd rather replay FF8 than ANY of the entries that came later...yes...INCLUDING FF9 and 10!! Dun-dun-dun!!!

I mean, don't get me wrong, I enjoy those games a good deal. But, y'know, I can't say I've ever been, say, a mass-produced weapon in the form of a black orb whose only tangible body parts are a pair of yellow eyes, wrestling with the implications of my creation. I have, however, been a teenager. I have experienced the feeling that the maelstrom of my emotions and my personal relationships are things of high drama and importance, capable of initiating an apocalypse or a rapture with every new development. I have struggled with abandonment issues, hid behind veils of bravado or apathy, pondered the things to be gained by exposing your soft personal underbelly to people around you and truly letting them in, versus the potential of being scarred forever by doing so. Sometimes I think a lot of the distaste for the game essentially amounts to a subconscious frustration with a person who clearly behaves like an asshole, but who is nonetheless constantly draped in the attentions of attractive, available women

Don't worry FFVIII, you'll be safe with me...
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Old 07/27/2018   #58
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leadmyskeptic wrote: All the asides of FFVIII-bashing in this thread have made me want to clutch it to my bosom and protect it, like the bruised and battered, dark horse, red-headed stepchild [Classic] that it is.

Hot take: I'd rather replay FF8 than ANY of the entries that came later...yes...INCLUDING FF9 and 10!! Dun-dun-dun!!!

I mean, don't get me wrong, I enjoy those games a good deal. But, y'know, I can't say I've ever been, say, a mass-produced weapon in the form of a black orb whose only tangible body parts are a pair of yellow eyes, wrestling with the implications of my creation. I have, however, been a teenager. I have experienced the feeling that the maelstrom of my emotions and my personal relationships are things of high drama and importance, capable of initiating an apocalypse or a rapture with every new development. I have struggled with abandonment issues, hid behind veils of bravado or apathy, pondered the things to be gained by exposing your soft personal underbelly to people around you and truly letting them in, versus the potential of being scarred forever by doing so. Sometimes I think a lot of the distaste for the game essentially amounts to a subconscious frustration with a person who clearly behaves like an asshole, but who is nonetheless constantly draped in the attentions of attractive, available women

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Hahaha! Trust me it ain’t that! I mean you could argue that about Cloud himself to an appreciable extent.

I do however love about a half to 2/3s of VIII’s music and listen to it regularly.
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Old 07/27/2018   #59
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I suppose that is so...although Cloud's thing (at least the 'part-Zack' Cloud from earlier on, whose representation in RM has been a source of anxiety given its absence from the Compilation etc) is more "Bravado" with-a-touch-of-hardness, its Han saying "I know" back to Leia. Squall's is more something like...uh...'humanity is a parasite don't touch me' lol. That Quistis scene with "Tell Me" (probably my favorite track from the game) not having the option to soften a little bit ALWAYS kills me. The walls go up, and I'm mashing buttons looking for the "take yer dick out!!!" option
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