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Old 06/16/2018   #241
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There is something about how fast this is all transpiring that is making me uncomfortable.
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Old 06/16/2018   #242
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Like in a "This uncharacteristic wave of initiative is quite pleasant" kind of way or a "Caution: Something's not right" kind of way?
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Old 06/17/2018   #243
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I think it's really just that folks being faced with Discourse looking like an approaching inevitability, we've transferred the sense of urgency into something that we feel more attached to.




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Old 06/17/2018   #244
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From my POV at least, it really feels (now) that Xf will be a lot less hassle. It took me a while to get a good overview of what installing Discourse would entail, and it's really made me procrastinate
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Old 06/17/2018   #245
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The Twilight Mexican wrote: Like in a "This uncharacteristic wave of initiative is quite pleasant" kind of way or a "Caution: Something's not right" kind of way?
Both.
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Old 06/20/2018   #246
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Hi,

I was chatting with Crash last week and she brought up this thread, specifically that momentum seems to be swinging towards Xenforo and that some people have concerns about throwing away the work I've done on Discourse already. I felt the need to make a post.

From a purely personal perspective, I wish that all these reservations had been brought up earlier, but I understand that the project has been a long, slow one and that people have probably never felt an urgent need to do so until now. It's frustrating that it seems like I've wasted my time and effort, but that shouldn't make any difference to your final decision. Even in absentia, I want what's best for this community, and if you collectively decide that that's Xenforo, then you should go for it. Please don't worry about me at all.

The current Discourse test forum remains a work in progress. As I said before, I took it as far as I intended to for the time being, with further adjustments to be made after it went live. X said he would sort out the forum structure, which, as far as I can tell, he hasn't, which is a shame, because that seems to have played a big part in people's first impressions.

But I'm not a Discourse fanatic by any means. My biggest concern with Xenforo has always been that it's proprietary software, which means that TLS could find itself in exactly the same position in a few years' time, where the software is no longer supported, or is supported by means of an update that we don't want, or is vulnerable to attack. If that happens, we'll be completely stuck and will have no option but to move again. With Discourse, even if it stops getting official updates, we could switch to a fork, or fix any major vulnerabilities ourselves. The fact that Discourse is free and Xenforo is (to me) expensive is another consideration, but if you want to put the money up, then go ahead. Just be aware that it's not a one-off purchase, but $140 and then $40 for every year of upgrades/support – and the price could go up. But I can't deny that it would be a more comfortable transition from VB for the vast majority of people, which is extremely important.

TL;DR: Do what you think is best, you have my blessing either way. And good luck.

Last edited by Flintlock; 06/20/2018 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Incorrect price (see below post)
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Old 06/20/2018   #247
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Small detail, it's $140 for the first license and $40 for follow-up years; I did see they recently released Xf 2.0 though, I don't know if that upgrade requires you to cough up another $140. this page has some Concerns with 2.0 too, but that seems mostly aimed at people already on 1.0 - notably, addon compatibility (and the addition of paid for / subscription based addons) is a point of er, interest?
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Old 06/20/2018   #248
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I will buy a Xen license on Monday. Yop can you spare some free time on Monday evening to chat about the technical aspects/ get the ball rolling in setting up a test server etc?

The majority of the work we have to do is in structure/ skinning. Even with a move to more similar forum software I want to rework our category trees etc for the forums to streamline where possible. Let's do this right, but let's not procrastinate this time.

As I said previously money is not an issue, I'm committed to paying for it (including annual update pricing if required). I still anticipate some hot debate about major forum features that need to go or drastically change regardless though.
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Old 06/20/2018   #249
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I believe Yop is already onto getting a licence sorted before you go ahead and purchase one.
There is always the donate function if anyone wants to pitch in without committing to anything specific (yes yes I know money isn't an issue but people like to feel involved even if they can't offer tech assistance).
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Old 06/21/2018   #250
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^ what she said; I'd really prefer if all finances go through me, it makes life a lot easier. With regards to a Xf license, I'm the one that will need access to it all the time to do upgrades and the like anyway.
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Old 06/22/2018   #251
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So! I'll do a bit moar research into Xf this weekend, see if there's a free trial or demo environment. If I don't see anything majorly sucky, I'll get a license and see if I can install it.

I don't know if there's any majority consensus one way or another, but so far things seem pretty neutral / in favor of Xf and not too excited about Discourse. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 06/23/2018   #252
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Fair enough, I'll transfer the money directly to Yop in that case. I've done this in the past because I don't believe in Paypal
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Old 06/23/2018   #253
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I like to think on the one hand that there won't be as many er, conversion costs and such involved if using Paypal, but OTOH IIRC Paypal will charge a fee for every transfer or purchase made through it so fuck knows

I also take beer.

TY <3. I'll try a demo to check for any fuckery, then get the license. Faux edit: demo environment at http://63e659463d90c998.demo-xenforo.com/204/index.php.

edit: first impressions, it's pretty good.
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Old 06/23/2018   #254
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Nice it even has Reddit tie ins
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Old 06/23/2018   #255
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Cthulhu wrote: I like to think on the one hand that there won't be as many er, conversion costs and such involved if using Paypal, but OTOH IIRC Paypal will charge a fee for every transfer or purchase made through it so fuck knows

I also take beer.

TY <3. I'll try a demo to check for any fuckery, then get the license. Faux edit: demo environment at http://63e659463d90c998.demo-xenforo.com/204/index.php.

edit: first impressions, it's pretty good.
You can gift money via PayPal, there's still fees for currency conversions afaik.

@ demo: JFC you are a fourteen-year old at heart.
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