The Lifestream Home The Lifestream Forums The Lifestream Shop Donate to The Lifestream
The Lifestream

ARCHIVED FORUMS

Hello. You are currently viewing the old vBulletin forums, which are now in readonly archive mode.
Please go to https://thelifestream.net/forums to go to the current forums.


Go Back   The Lifestream Forums > Compilation of Final Fantasy VII > Final Fantasy VII Remake

Final Fantasy VII Remake The remake of FFVII announced at E3 on June 15th, 2015 -- OUR WHOLE LIVES HAVE BEEN LEADING UP TO THIS MOMENT!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06/26/2015   #61
Shademp
Default

Oh, almost forgot. The retrospective now also has a home in the FFVII Remake index page, along with other important links.
__________________
My YouTube Channel!
FINAL FANTASY VII UNCOVERED
Clement Rage wrote: All hail Shademp, God of Dirge.

Last edited by Shademp; 06/26/2015 at 09:59 PM.
Shademp is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by 2:
Lex (06/26/2015), Tetsujin (06/26/2015)
Old 06/26/2015   #62
Flintlock
Default

I already said a brief thank you to Tets for that article when it first went up, but after reading it in full yesterday, I'd like to go further than that. With no disrespect to our other contributors, I think it might be the best, or at least most enjoyable, article we've published since the remake announcement. Really good work. Whatever it is we're paying you, we should double it.
Flintlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by 2:
Cthulhu (06/27/2015), Tetsujin (06/27/2015)
Old 06/27/2015   #63
Tetsujin
Default

Thank you, thank you.

As for the pay, let's see, 0 x 2 is...

...oh...
Tetsujin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by 3:
Claymore (06/27/2015), Cthulhu (06/27/2015), Lex (06/27/2015)
Old 06/27/2015   #64
Lex
Default

I really enjoyed reading it too. I had time to sit and read the whole thing slowly today and it was a nice trip down memory lane. Of course, the only reason the trip was nice was because the remake has been announced, otherwise it would just have been frustrating
__________________


Especially for me, by the awesome GLD!
Serving legendaries with mah Pokécrew.
Lex is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Tetsujin (06/27/2015)
Old 06/27/2015   #65
Tetsujin
Default

Believe me, I got frustrated all over again when I re-read some of that bullshit during the research "FFVII WOULD TAKE TEN YEARS GAIZ!" Really, Kitase? I guess we should expect the remake in 2024 then.
Tetsujin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Lex (06/28/2015)
Old 07/07/2015   #66
Tetsujin
Default

There's this other idea I had - it's more related to the OG but relevant to the remake as well I guess?
You know how people still often believe Midgar is literally stuck in eternal night due to pollution and stuff? I thought about maybe doing an article debunking this myth with all the visual clues from the OG and the compilation that show this is not the case.

I mean, the remake teaser straight up shows it in daylight but even then a lot of people mistake that for Edge in the future (which I did as well initially but that was more due to the architecture and shit )

y/n?
Tetsujin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by 2:
Jason Tandro (07/07/2015), Lex (07/08/2015)
Old 07/07/2015   #67
Jason Tandro
Default

Tetsujin wrote: There's this other idea I had - it's more related to the OG but relevant to the remake as well I guess?
You know how people still often believe Midgar is literally stuck in eternal night due to pollution and stuff? I thought about maybe doing an article debunking this myth with all the visual clues from the OG and the compilation that show this is not the case.

I mean, the remake teaser straight up shows it in daylight but even then a lot of people mistake that for Edge in the future (which I did as well initially but that was more due to the architecture and shit )

y/n?
That could be fun... like Final Fantasy Mythbusters

Sunrise over Midgar


Midgar Daytime around the Gate


Upper right... possible daylight creeping through the plate?
Jason Tandro is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by 2:
Lex (07/08/2015), Tetsujin (07/07/2015)
Old 07/07/2015   #68
Tetsujin
Default

Exactly the images I would want to use.
Tetsujin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Lex (07/08/2015)
Old 07/07/2015   #69
Jason Tandro
Default

There's more that I found in terms of info:

First off, funnily enough, you all talked about this back in 2009

The general consensus of all the threads I've seen is what you said, Tetsujin- pollution is bad. I'm racking my brain trying to find an official explanation.

I seem to recall a line of dialogue where somebody said that the people in the slums never got to see the light of day, and it was specifically slumlings. That would seem to indicate that people on the plate saw the sun once in a while.



Midgar from Crisis Core


In this shot you can see the moon through a gap in the clouds. If it's clear enough that you can see the moon clearly (no pun intended), then the sun would have no problem shining.


Diamond Weapons Attack





Overcast, but clearly day time. While WEAPON may be just in the wastelands and while WEAPONS certainly are massive, this beast is within a few miles of the city. Any pollution effects would extend out to the entire area.


Lastly the argument that "it gets dark when you approach Midgar on the world map". Yes, because there is smog and pollution. But it gets overcast... not eternal black of night. It's like them saying that people in 1800s London (or modern day Detroit) required lanterns everywhere they went because there was no sun.


There's also the "flowers in the church" counter argument... but I don't know that there's enough traction to support that one, only because there are nocturnal flowering plants and the lamps that light up the slums could theoretically provide vitamin D rich light... I don't know why they would, but it could happen.
Jason Tandro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2015   #70
Knights of the Round
Default

Tetsujin wrote: Believe me, I got frustrated all over again when I re-read some of that bullshit during the research "FFVII WOULD TAKE TEN YEARS GAIZ!" Really, Kitase? I guess we should expect the remake in 2024 then.
I get the criticism, but development tools have come a long way since the release in 1997. A lot more stuff is automated now than was back then.
Knights of the Round is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2015   #71
Tetsujin
Default

He brought up the ten-year excuse again last year though.
Tetsujin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2015   #72
Lex
Default

Somebody do it please, I've been wanting something like this but didn't know it until Tets brought it up XD.

Everybody going on about "omg daylight that's a total retcon" when it isn't has been bugging me.
__________________


Especially for me, by the awesome GLD!
Serving legendaries with mah Pokécrew.
Lex is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Tetsujin (07/08/2015)
Old 07/08/2015   #73
Flintlock
Default

I'm making this post as a reminder to myself as anything: I intend to publish the full survey results in their own article, now that the podcast has been out for a couple of days. Hopefully, I'll have time to do it tomorrow.
Flintlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Theozilla (07/09/2015)
Old 07/08/2015   #74
The Man
Default

Is it too late to submit results to the survey? :slowpoke: If so it's not really a big deal, since it's my fault for waiting so long
__________________


You’re better off not dreaming of the things to come
Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








last.fm (note: album artwork may sometimes be nsfw) · Fool's Gold · FFOF · FF
the lifestream last.fm group · my old music · my new music · pm for myspace/facebook
The Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2015   #75
Flintlock
Default

Yeah, the survey closed over a week ago. Feel free to post your "answers" in the survey thread (or one of our other remake threads) if you want. There were five topics: reaction, setting & plot, gameplay, graphics & audio, and other.
Flintlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:21 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.