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Old 11/07/2017   #1
Flintlock
Default Unpopular opinions: the survey

It's been over a week since I put up this thread on unpopular Final Fantasy opinions, which has gotten a whole lot of responses already. Since it's difficult to work out which opinions actually are unpopular and which aren't, I've taken all the opinions shared so far and stuck them in a Google Form. I have three reasons for using this rather than our forum's built-in poll function: one, the sheer number of opinions; two, Google lets me have multiple-choice responses; and three, I may want to eventually publish this on our front page, social media, etc.

Link: The Lifestream's unpopular Final Fantasy opinions survey

Once you've submitted the form, you'll be able to see how other people have responded. Since it's a forum-exclusive link for the time being, you'll get an idea of how the Lifestream community feels on all the opinions contained within.

You're welcome to keep posting in the actual opinions thread, but I won't be adding anything more to the poll. Use this thread to discuss the poll itself: your predictions, how you voted, the results, and anything else you can think of.

Edit: this view isn't great but I can't change it. Instead, I can draw up a graph manually once we've collected a decent number of responses. In the meantime you can hover over any of the labels to see them in full.


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Old 11/07/2017   #2
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I'm missing a "no opinion" option, for those (like me) that haven't played or have forgotten all about, e.g., FF 2
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Old 11/07/2017   #3
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Cthulhu wrote: I'm missing a "no opinion" option
Read the survey description.
if you have no opinion for a particular row, just leave it blank.
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Old 11/07/2017   #4
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If you haven't done so already, you should post this to the Final Fantasy subreddit. It'd probably get a lot of responses on there.
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Old 11/07/2017   #5
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Flintlock wrote: I may want to eventually publish this on our front page, social media, etc.

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Since it's a forum-exclusive link for the time being, you'll get an idea of how the Lifestream community feels on all the opinions contained within.
Essentially, once I'm satisfied that most people from here who want to answer have done so, I'll take a snapshot of the current results and then publicise it more widely.
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Old 11/07/2017   #6
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I love that people seem to have the strongest opinions where Tifa is concerned
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Old 11/07/2017   #7
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WoW, didn't know this site had such negative perception of X & VII being connected.
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Old 11/07/2017   #8
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Ranked likes and dislikes and ranked statements for your viewing pleasure. They auto-update when the form gets new responses.

For my fellow nerds

Popularity = likes - dislikes
Strength of feeling = likes + dislikes - mixed
Divisiveness = (2 * min(likes, dislikes)) - mixed

Replace "likes" with "agreements" and "dislikes" with "disagreements" where appropriate.

All three scores are subsequently normalised to a 0-100 scale, weighted by the number of responses, so something with 0 likes and 5 dislikes will score higher on the popularity scale than something with 0 likes and 10 dislikes, for example.

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Old 11/07/2017   #9
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You lost me at the equation for divisiveness. Thanks for arranging the survey Flintlock-san!

Can't believe there's an opinion more unpopular than TifaxRufus. Gdi. I thought I had this in the bag.

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Old 11/07/2017   #10
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No problem. And yeah, it took me a while to come up with it that last equation. Basically, something scores highly for divisiveness if it has roughly the same number of likes and dislikes and relatively few mixed opinions.
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Old 11/07/2017   #11
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Oh how interesting it is to see how many complete and total strangers I am surrounded by on a daily basis.
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Old 11/08/2017   #12
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Shademp wrote:
Cthulhu wrote: I'm missing a "no opinion" option
Read the survey description.
if you have no opinion for a particular row, just leave it blank.
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Old 11/08/2017   #13
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I changed the divisiveness formula a little. Before it had a default value of 0, whereas now it's 50, the same as the other two formulae. The new formula is: (2 * min(likes, dislikes)) - |likes - dislikes| - mixed. This has also changed the rankings a little.

Last edited by Flintlock; 11/09/2017 at 04:06 PM. Reason: changed again
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Old 11/09/2017   #14
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When you said "FFX has a superficial story"... was that a joke?

And Tidus being a "realistic protagonist"...?
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Old 11/12/2017   #15
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Bluh, I didn't want my opinions ridiculed all over the Internet, thanks for the warning
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