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Old 06/24/2018   #781
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Psh, we all know that any chance Vaan had with Penelo was gone the instant Larsa took her to his swanky Bhujherba estate. Once you go Archadian, there's no going back.
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Old 06/25/2018   #782
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ending spoilers for people who are playing it for the first time

this talk of vaan and panelo's relationship reminds me of how, when the game was still only in japanese, some people interpreted the ending as vaan leaving panelo because he was in an airship and she was looking up on the ground. despite her dialogue saying she was going too.

early info on japanese games from english fandoms can be misleading/just plain wrong
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Old 06/25/2018   #783
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Strangelove wrote: ending spoilers for people who are playing it for the first time

this talk of vaan and panelo's relationship reminds me of how, when the game was still only in japanese, some people interpreted the ending as vaan leaving panelo because he was in an airship and she was looking up on the ground. despite her dialogue saying she was going too.

early info on japanese games from english fandoms can be misleading/just plain wrong
(SPOILER) Them people ignored how Penelo very obviously is in Rabanastre in the end, and Vaan is flying back towards... Rabanastre.

That's funny.
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Old 06/25/2018   #784
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I don't have a lot of ships for FFXII but Larsa and Penelo is one of them. She flits in and out of his life as a friend and he carries a torch for her into old age, and when they're both senior citizens she finally acknowledges her love for him and they settle down together in retirement and he can at last spoil her the way he's always dreamed of doing.
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Old 06/25/2018   #785
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Fangu wrote:
Strangelove wrote: ending spoilers for people who are playing it for the first time

this talk of vaan and panelo's relationship reminds me of how, when the game was still only in japanese, some people interpreted the ending as vaan leaving panelo because he was in an airship and she was looking up on the ground. despite her dialogue saying she was going too.

early info on japanese games from english fandoms can be misleading/just plain wrong
(SPOILER) Them people ignored how Penelo very obviously is in Rabanastre in the end, and Vaan is flying back towards... Rabanastre.

That's funny.
(SPOILER) i once saw someone trying to tell people that vaan was leaving without panelo, because he was piloting an airship with only one seat. despite the fact that you can see an empty seat next to vaan.

i can understand stuff like misunderstanding due to language (like crisis core ending spoilers within these spoilers people claiming that zack says to cloud 'i'm entrusting aerith to you' in the end rather than just saying 'say hi to aerith'). but this is like, ignoring the visual storytelling. maybe if panelo went to the hanger and saw vaan leaving, that would be something. but panelo is looking up at the doors which are opening (implying that vaan's going to land), with vaan flying towards the city in an airship with two seats. also she literally says she's going too.

idk if this was just vaan/ashe shippers reading what they wanted to see into it. at least with a stronger focus on simultaneous releases you get that less often. then you just get people claiming the english version changed it, which also happened with the crisis core thing.
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Old 06/29/2018   #786
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The Twilight Mexican wrote:
In addition to the explicitly romantic scene between them in "Revenant Wings," there was this in the first game:


i'm afraid i was confused at first until i read it two more times...i can see how that would be romantic now.

Strangelove wrote: (SPOILER) i once saw someone trying to tell people that vaan was leaving without panelo, because he was piloting an airship with only one seat. despite the fact that you can see an empty seat next to vaan.

i can understand stuff like misunderstanding due to language (like crisis core ending spoilers within these spoilers people claiming that zack says to cloud 'i'm entrusting aerith to you' in the end rather than just saying 'say hi to aerith'). but this is like, ignoring the visual storytelling. maybe if panelo went to the hanger and saw vaan leaving, that would be something. but panelo is looking up at the doors which are opening (implying that vaan's going to land), with vaan flying towards the city in an airship with two seats. also she literally says she's going too.

idk if this was just vaan/ashe shippers reading what they wanted to see into it. at least with a stronger focus on simultaneous releases you get that less often. then you just get people claiming the english version changed it, which also happened with the crisis core thing.
(SPOILER) actually, i am a vaanxashe shipper and honestly thought they were going to like each other in around the middle of the game (when cid dies) but they are too far apart in age for me to get seriously upset about it.

still my shipping heart tells me that when vaan is old enough he and ashe get together and marry and all

but i never thought that vaan was leaving penelo, especially since she was waving at him as a means of "come back soon" rather than goodbye. it was obvious they were going to stay together at the end of the game, friends or not.


also, just so i can be sure, are baltier and fran together? they seemed among the realm of being friends hiding their feelings to revealing their feelings but there's nothing that really showed that to me (also it seems like ashe was marrying baltier????).
of course, there is this beautiful art (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080316032723) that seems to be leaning in that direction but of course you can't depend on art alone in a game. you have to put context in it and all.
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Old 06/29/2018   #787
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T@ctic wrote:
The Twilight Mexican wrote:
In addition to the explicitly romantic scene between them in "Revenant Wings," there was this in the first game:

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i'm afraid i was confused at first until i read it two more times...i can see how that would be romantic now.

Strangelove wrote: (SPOILER) i once saw someone trying to tell people that vaan was leaving without panelo, because he was piloting an airship with only one seat. despite the fact that you can see an empty seat next to vaan.

i can understand stuff like misunderstanding due to language (like crisis core ending spoilers within these spoilers people claiming that zack says to cloud 'i'm entrusting aerith to you' in the end rather than just saying 'say hi to aerith'). but this is like, ignoring the visual storytelling. maybe if panelo went to the hanger and saw vaan leaving, that would be something. but panelo is looking up at the doors which are opening (implying that vaan's going to land), with vaan flying towards the city in an airship with two seats. also she literally says she's going too.

idk if this was just vaan/ashe shippers reading what they wanted to see into it. at least with a stronger focus on simultaneous releases you get that less often. then you just get people claiming the english version changed it, which also happened with the crisis core thing.
(SPOILER) actually, i am a vaanxashe shipper and honestly thought they were going to like each other in around the middle of the game (when cid dies) but they are too far apart in age for me to get seriously upset about it.

still my shipping heart tells me that when vaan is old enough he and ashe get together and marry and all

but i never thought that vaan was leaving penelo, especially since she was waving at him as a means of "come back soon" rather than goodbye. it was obvious they were going to stay together at the end of the game, friends or not.


also, just so i can be sure, are baltier and fran together? they seemed among the realm of being friends hiding their feelings to revealing their feelings but there's nothing that really showed that to me (also it seems like ashe was marrying baltier????).
of course, there is this beautiful art (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080316032723) that seems to be leaning in that direction but of course you can't depend on art alone in a game. you have to put context in it and all.
If baltheir has deep feelings for some bunny fucka, send his ass to the ward!
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Old 06/29/2018   #788
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Balthier and Fran belong together like Bonnie and Clyde, Harold and Maude.
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Old 06/29/2018   #789
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I don't have many ships, but I've always been fond of Vaanelo. Whether romantic or not, it's so quiet, unassuming, and unquestionable that they don't bother to talk about it.
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Old 06/29/2018   #790
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If it ain’t gay love, it ain’t love.
And vaan’s pretty damn gay!
Yep with dat sweater vest. Baltheir is low key in the closet, but due to SE’s bitch ass wickedness, his sexuality was unable to be born properly. Which explains a possible fuck up the man’s brain to fall for some in human bunny bitch called a viera.
Sigh, when will se finally feature a final fantasy with mandatory gay characters.
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