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GiddyUnicorn · 11/04/2017

It's a really nice consistent quote from one of the dev's pov in my opinion. I believe it's one of the main source that inspired a lot of interpretations/theories in regards to Cloud and Aerith post death imo. I think both sides tend to miss this one particular line in that quote however:

but in Advent Children, rather than focusing on memories we wanted to show that consciousness is what lives on. We took the ending of the game and expanded on that idea.

One side feels the need to focus on the memory part of that line while the other side wants to focus solely on the second part of that line which is the consciousness. Thus, you have this big needless argument about two facts that really goes hand in hand with each other. Most people just refuse to see that as a whole imho.

***The Twilight Mexican*** · 11/04/2017

I don't think any part of that sentence was ever the issue. It was more these last few sentences (the last in particular): "As for Cloud, he sees Aerith several times throughout the film. It’s not that he sees her because he feels her presence. He sees her because her consciousness lives on inside him."

The localization folks went with that for whatever reason, which gave some fans the idea that this long-winded way of saying "the dead live on through the living" was not only literal but also something specific to Cloud and Aerith (rather than the generalized sentiment for which Nomura was using Cloud and Aerith as an example).

GiddyUnicorn · 11/04/2017

I don't think it was ever specific to Cloud and Aerith only, it was however something nice for Cloud and Aerith to have and be confirmed by Nomura. I mean this was even explained by Bugenhagen and Ifalna herself in the first game. So whoever is saying that this was exclusive only to Cloud and Aerith, I simply don't agree with that. First time I've heard of that to be honest.

11/04/2017	#1171
GiddyUnicorn Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 AKA: That One Person You Don't Like Talking To	It's a really nice consistent quote from one of the dev's pov in my opinion. I believe it's one of the main source that inspired a lot of interpretations/theories in regards to Cloud and Aerith post death imo. I think both sides tend to miss this one particular line in that quote however: but in Advent Children, rather than focusing on memories* we wanted to show that consciousness is what lives on. We took the ending of the game and expanded on that idea.* One side feels the need to focus on the memory part of that line while the other side wants to focus solely on the second part of that line which is the consciousness. Thus, you have this big needless argument about two facts that really goes hand in hand with each other. Most people just refuse to see that as a whole imho. __________________ Yes, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?! Last edited by GiddyUnicorn; 11/04/2017 at 07:59 PM.

11/04/2017	#1172
*The Twilight Mexican* *Administrator* Great Old One Ex-SeeD-ingly good Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 36 Sex: Male Location: North Carolina AKA: TresDias, Hawkeye, El Diablo Gato, Martha Jones, Ariadne, Squall of SeeD, Squall_of_SeeD	I don't think any part of that sentence was ever the issue. It was more these last few sentences (the last in particular): "As for Cloud, he sees Aerith several times throughout the film. It’s not that he sees her because he feels her presence. He sees her because her consciousness lives on inside him." The localization folks went with that for whatever reason, which gave some fans the idea that this long-winded way of saying "the dead live on through the living" was not only literal but also something specific to Cloud and Aerith (rather than the generalized sentiment for which Nomura was using Cloud and Aerith as an example). __________________ Quexinos wrote: I wish I had been there when Cloud realized he had geostigma. I bet he cried. hito wrote: man i miss flip phones, they were cool and now everything is a boring slab

11/04/2017	#1173
GiddyUnicorn Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 AKA: That One Person You Don't Like Talking To	I don't think it was ever specific to Cloud and Aerith only, it was however something nice for Cloud and Aerith to have and be confirmed by Nomura. I mean this was even explained by Bugenhagen and Ifalna herself in the first game. So whoever is saying that this was exclusive only to Cloud and Aerith, I simply don't agree with that. First time I've heard of that to be honest. __________________ Yes, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?! Last edited by GiddyUnicorn; 11/04/2017 at 08:27 PM.