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Old 05/31/2018   #346
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I'll probably end up setting feminism back a decade or so with these comments so apologies folks.

Ahem to further expand on my lovely colleagues already stellar argument for BG let's talk about sex shall we?

The pilot is a middle aged man flying the skies with a bunch of eco terrorists fangasming over captain Cid. Placed in a cosy little room with a beautiful is gonna result in the pilot not being able to walk straight, talk right or think about anything other than docking his own plane in her hangar.

That said our BG is smart, beautiful and knows how to use her feminine ways. All that's required is a bat of the eyes, maybe a slip of the dress from those blockwork shoulders and she will have the pilot eating out her hand.

Even the locale of this battle fits our BG perfectly. Having materialised in a strange place she sees the pilot, he gawks stupidly and starts to drool. Looking over at the couch she spots our fav old timer setting fire to pictures of a chocobo rider she can't quite make out. He stares back in awe, he sees her young eyes filled with hope then noticed the letch drooling over her. The old man spring to action like neo in the matrix and stabs the pilot in the neck before sharing his stash of werthers originals with BG.

All roads lead back to our young heroine being the victor!
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Old 05/31/2018   #347
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With all respect to the beautiful girl's looks, let's not crazy. No one left the Highwind at either Cloud or Cid's prompting, our pilot was looking down at Tifa rocking Cloud's world from the airship like everyone else the night before Meteorfall. It didn't distract him from his mission, or render him inoperable of talking to her normally afterwards.

As for the Captain leaving his friends and crew to die based on them wasting everyone's time on meaningless NPC brawls, tell that to Scarlet's left cheek.
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Old 05/31/2018   #348
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Aw, come on, BG isn't going to kill the Pilot. All she has to do is render him defenceless.

Of course Cid wouldn't leave Tifa to die, she's a Main Party Character. She's not replaceable. Pilots, on the other hand, are two a gil.

But in any case, if the pilot has to rely on reinforcements, then the pilot isn't the one winning the smackdown, is he? Cid would be the one winning. I mean by saying the Pilot has to call in Cid, you're basically saying he can't win on his own.

Thanks for admitting that.

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Old 05/31/2018   #349
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And even if we pretended that Cid would waste his time interfering in the matter, it isn’t as though the pilot would be in a position to take any advice that the Captain could possibly offer him in this scenario. He’d be too busy trying not to die to death what with his lungs basically collapsing from trauma. By then, BG would have already knocked him flat on his ass and he’d be worn down to get up. He’d probably welcome the rest—piloting is already a highly stressful job. Piloting for a bunch of band of skilled killers who are also stressed out whilst trying to keep out of reach of a megapowerful company with an army sounds downright exhausting. Piloting for a band of skilled stressed killers whilst keeping out of reach of a blood thirsty company with an army under the mentoring of Cid Highwind must be close to death itself.

You should maybe consider retiring, o’ lowly Pilot.

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Old 05/31/2018   #350
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Sure, ref. You yourself posed to us the scenerio that Pilot is taken to this makeshift arena mid transit.
Cid, his pilot having gone AWOL in the middle of taking them to their destination, with a means on communicating on hand is gonna save his breath and quietly take over the person's duties or go back and hire someone else without taking steps to let the guilty party know his feelings on the matter. Yeah, he's a true stoic our Cid. Not at all likely to give someone a piece of his mind.

No. Our pilot will receive prompt instruction to "GET THE &*%$ BACK TO WORK" and will take far more care to meet his Captain' needs then his ailing lungs, or taking the time to admire the beauty of the lady in front of him. And if that lady is in the way of him doing so, as indeed fate has led her to be, he will take her down.
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Old 05/31/2018   #351
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1. How does Cid even know where the Pilot is?
2. I know Cid has quite a carrying voice, but even he cannot shout on the Highwind and be heard in Kalm.
I'm sure you've noticed that in order to give the Pilot any instructions, you have to be standing right next to him.
If the Pilot is capable of thinking anything, he's probably thinking that he must have screwed up and Cid threw him out of the airship and that's how he got here.
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Old 05/31/2018   #352
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Cid is an RPG protagonist. He will immediately prioritise an NPC sidequest over his immediate goals. Also, if they're in the middle of the mission, that means that the Highwind is grounded, therefore no decompression sickness.

If there's one thing a pilot needs, it's focus. You can't last long if you are easily distracted by interesting birds or cloud formations. He's able to keep focus with Tifa Lockhart (Current Holder of Shinra's "World's Most Beautiful International Terrorist" Award) standing directly in front of him.

Other crew members can be distracted from their duties by talking to them. Not this guy. He'll stay focused.

As a pilot, he'll have goggles to protect himself from Mace and Car Keys.

Beautiful Girl, however, is dressed for tropical Mideel, not an old man't unheated house (because he's still recovering in Fort Condor.) She won't be able to function in the cold, and school fight experience doesn't trump working with terrorists and the Shinra military.

Further, Beautiful Girl craves adventure, she's sick of her shop. On noticing her adversary is a pilot, she will want to know about his stories of travelling to far flung spots, and possibly even sign on with the crew for adventures. She's likely to just surrender in order to fly around with the Highwind Crew having adventures.

aside I still love Cid's speech
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Old 05/31/2018   #353
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WOW I got so lost in the sauce that I missed this. Pretend that I posted this 36 minutes earlier lmao.




Friendly reminder to players that as of the 31st May, 21:34 GMT, you have less than 24 hours to sway Spectators.

Here's a link to a time zone converter in case anyone needs it.

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Old 06/01/2018   #354
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Clement Rage wrote: Cid is an RPG protagonist. He will immediately prioritise an NPC sidequest over his immediate goals. Also, if they're in the middle of the mission, that means that the Highwind is grounded, therefore no decompression sickness.

If there's one thing a pilot needs, it's focus. You can't last long if you are easily distracted by interesting birds or cloud formations. He's able to keep focus with Tifa Lockhart (Current Holder of Shinra's "World's Most Beautiful International Terrorist" Award) standing directly in front of him.

Other crew members can be distracted from their duties by talking to them. Not this guy. He'll stay focused.

As a pilot, he'll have goggles to protect himself from Mace and Car Keys.
See, I don't think that's true. Cid might prioritise a sidequest that involves fighting the Shinra, but right now Meteor is in the sky and the danger is so urgent that he can't take time off to rescue one of his pilots. What's more, as I said before, if the Pilot is capable of winning this smackdown, then why does he need Cid to rescue him?

Sure. Tifa is beautiful. but BG is Beautiful. And there isn't any Cid around to terrorise the Pilot into focusing.

Beautiful Girl, however, is dressed for tropical Mideel, not an old man't unheated house (because he's still recovering in Fort Condor.) She won't be able to function in the cold, and school fight experience doesn't trump working with terrorists and the Shinra military.
The Pilot just flies a plane. What's more, he's still in training. We can surmise he has not been working with Shinra for very long. We don't in fact knows that he has any fighting experience at all. He travels with Avalanche, but does he ever fight with them? No. Surely if he had any half-way decent combat skills he'd be out there at Fort Condor and Junon fighting the Shinra.

BG is Hot, man. She generates her own heat.


Further, Beautiful Girl craves adventure, she's sick of her shop. On noticing her adversary is a pilot, she will want to know about his stories of travelling to far flung spots, and possibly even sign on with the crew for adventures. She's likely to just surrender in order to fly around with the Highwind Crew having adventures.
If there's one thing BG has had plenty of practice in, it's refusing to surrender to men. She may well crave adventure, it would not be out of character. But if she uses her assets to charm the Pilot into refusing to fight her, and if she further charms him into offering to introduce her to Cid and Avalanche, then I think that counts as a win for BG: she will have achieved her goals.
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Old 06/01/2018   #355
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LicoriceAllsorts wrote: 1. How does Cid even know where the Pilot is?
2. I know Cid has quite a carrying voice, but even he cannot shout on the Highwind and be heard in Kalm.
I'm sure you've noticed that in order to give the Pilot any instructions, you have to be standing right next to him.
If the Pilot is capable of thinking anything, he's probably thinking that he must have screwed up and Cid threw him out of the airship and that's how he got here.
He doesn't have to be there or know where the pilot is. The pilot is wearing a headset to communicate with the rest of the crew, primarily his captain.

The Pilot just flies a plane. What's more, he's still in training. We can surmise he has not been working with Shinra for very long. We don't in fact knows that he has any fighting experience at all. He travels with Avalanche, but does he ever fight with them? No. Surely if he had any half-way decent combat skills he'd be out there at Fort Condor and Junon fighting the Shinra.
Long or not, we know that Rufus took the Highwind as his mode of transport of choice by the time he went to the Northern Continent, the ferry, helicopters and Tiny Bronco were improvisations because the Highwind wasn't ready yet. While Tifa was in a coma for week, Barret reassures us that Rufus has been taking the fight to the Weapons the entire time. The pilot was handpicked for the most dangerous missions, him still being in training only means it can't be solely for his skill as a pilot that he was selected, he has been in and out of combat scenerios since the Weapons appeared and AVALANCHE has not always been there to help.

If there's one thing BG has had plenty of practice in, it's refusing to surrender to men. She may well crave adventure, it would not be out of character. But if she uses her assets to charm the Pilot into refusing to fight her, and if she further charms him into offering to introduce her to Cid and Avalanche, then I think that counts as a win for BG: she will have achieved her goals.
That is NOT true, sir. Having helped her to achieve an arbitrary goal of her choicing is NOT a win condition, these are rancid lies. The ref already clarified to you once that the opponent needs to be rendered unable to fight at all, whether that is physically, mentally or existentially.
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Old 06/01/2018   #356
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So if her charm renders the Pilot unwilling to fight her, she wins?

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Old 06/01/2018   #357
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LicoriceAllsorts wrote:
Clement Rage wrote: Cid is an RPG protagonist. He will immediately prioritise an NPC sidequest over his immediate goals. Also, if they're in the middle of the mission, that means that the Highwind is grounded, therefore no decompression sickness.

If there's one thing a pilot needs, it's focus. You can't last long if you are easily distracted by interesting birds or cloud formations. He's able to keep focus with Tifa Lockhart (Current Holder of Shinra's "World's Most Beautiful International Terrorist" Award) standing directly in front of him.

Other crew members can be distracted from their duties by talking to them. Not this guy. He'll stay focused.

As a pilot, he'll have goggles to protect himself from Mace and Car Keys.
See, I don't think that's true. Cid might prioritise a sidequest that involves fighting the Shinra, but right now Meteor is in the sky and the danger is so urgent that he can't take time off to rescue one of his pilots. What's more, as I said before, if the Pilot is capable of winning this smackdown, then why does he need Cid to rescue him?

Sure. Tifa is beautiful. but BG is Beautiful. And there isn't any Cid around to terrorise the Pilot into focusing.

Beautiful Girl, however, is dressed for tropical Mideel, not an old man't unheated house (because he's still recovering in Fort Condor.) She won't be able to function in the cold, and school fight experience doesn't trump working with terrorists and the Shinra military.
The Pilot just flies a plane. What's more, he's still in training. We can surmise he has not been working with Shinra for very long. We don't in fact knows that he has any fighting experience at all. He travels with Avalanche, but does he ever fight with them? No. Surely if he had any half-way decent combat skills he'd be out there at Fort Condor and Junon fighting the Shinra.

BG is Hot, man. She generates her own heat.


Further, Beautiful Girl craves adventure, she's sick of her shop. On noticing her adversary is a pilot, she will want to know about his stories of travelling to far flung spots, and possibly even sign on with the crew for adventures. She's likely to just surrender in order to fly around with the Highwind Crew having adventures.
If there's one thing BG has had plenty of practice in, it's refusing to surrender to men. She may well crave adventure, it would not be out of character. But if she uses her assets to charm the Pilot into refusing to fight her, and if she further charms him into offering to introduce her to Cid and Avalanche, then I think that counts as a win for BG: she will have achieved her goals.
This is the same party that delays going to Sephiroth to breed Chocobos and ride rollercoasters.

Pilot doesn't need Cid, but it's a nice bonus. He can focus all by himself, it's necessary for his job. He doesn't fight because they can't afford to lose their pilot, but he pilots a military craft, he has to have some combat training.

If there's one thing BG has had plenty of practice in, it's refusing to surrender to men. She may well crave adventure, it would not be out of character. But if she uses her assets to charm the Pilot into refusing to fight her, and if she further charms him into offering to introduce her to Cid and Avalanche, then I think that counts as a win for BG: she will have achieved her goals
Untrue. BG didn't want to settle in Mideel. She wants to live somewhere more exciting. But she settled there anyway, because it was what her husband wanted. That's not the action of someone that never takes no for an answer.

You could equally argue that Pilot has charmed BG into not fighting him. But I'd argue that the Pilot has more leverage here. He has access to something she wants, whereas there are beautiful girls all over the world, including her identical clone in Junon.
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Old 06/01/2018   #358
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Who’s disposition would be most shaken in the middle of this? BG, likely a little weirded out and maybe even a little chilly, but she’s been around the block once or twice and more than knows how to handle herself.

The Pilot, however, suddenly plucked from the midst of flying an airship during dangerous missions, running from powerful men, chasing a known murderer, shaken from yet another snide remark made by the man who’s approval he most seeks to gain. His nerves must be shot to all hell. Plus he’s got the decompression sickness.

YES, I AM GOING BACK TO THAT.

I absolutely believe the likelihood of his flying the airship when the smackdown happens is quite high! How often have players rode around the Planet on the Highwind just gliding through continents over and over out of boredom? Or even just sat there for a moment contemplating where to go next? Maybe you even put the controller down and went to go fix yourself a sandwich? Am I the only one who’s done that lmao? Ran around trying to find WEAPONs to beat up? Admit it!

Furthermore, look at him.


He has a headset on and everything, suggesting he was in the middle of a job. He even looks like he’s in the midst of shouting into it for goodness sakes. Likely, “I’m sorry Captain, it won’t happen again Captain!” Now, I’ve never been a pilot, but I’ve certainly worked in fields where headsets were a must and, I’ll tell you, I’ve yet to ever bring my headset or any such work equipment with me to lunch, on a break, or any such downtime. So because he’s dressed and ready to be handling the ship, my guess is that he was, well, handling the ship when the smackdown happened.

What a twist of bad luck...

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Old 06/01/2018   #359
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BG or Beautiful Gangsta in the streets
Get them hands and neck sweatin’ every time you meet
She’ll defeat
Any punkass gettin’ in her way
You messin’ with BG? You make it worth her day

BG or Beautiful Gangsta in the club
One look and she got fools wantin’ to be called her “hub”
She ain’t no sub!
Chick eats dudes like Pilot for second breakfast
It’s lonely on top when you’re the bestest

BG or Beautiful Gangsta in the ghetto
Bruh, she’ll fuck you up, that much we know
NO
-body can stop my homegirl now
In the presence of greatest, Pilot had better bow

*jazz outro*

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Old 06/01/2018   #360
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