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Old 06/26/2012   #1
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We've been discussing the matter in staff and we've come to the conclusion that when people are visibly intoxicated or otherwise appear to be mentally imperilled, and more importantly are very clearly embarrassing themselves, it might be prudent to ban them for a few hours until they clear up so that they don't come back several hours later and have to say something along the lines of "oh my god what the fuck did I say, I'm so embarrassed". Most of the staff seem to be on board with this idea (there are a few that haven't weighed in yet) but it's probably a good idea to bring this up publicly before we start doing it.

To clarify: This won't necessarily be because people are breaking rules or whatever, but just because they're posting content that is likely to embarrass them in the future.
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Old 06/26/2012   #2
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Well that's me banned for the foreseeable future.
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Old 06/26/2012   #3
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Old 06/26/2012   #4
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I should clarify: we wouldn't just ban people because they were obviously drunk; they would also have to be making a public spectacle of themselves. Just mistyping words or whatever wouldn't be enough to merit us giving them a cooling-off period; they'd have to do stuff that they would obviously be embarrassed by in the future to merit it.

It's also not a foregone conclusion that we'll do this if enough people are against the idea. However in cases where it leads us to not having to dole out warnings to people who obviously aren't in full control of their mental faculties then it might be for the better.
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“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 06/26/2012   #5
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.....

yes, in the current discussion several of us agreed that temp bans might be a good idea if someone is excessively posting nonsense in a drunken stupor/temporary burst of insanity.

Here was my 2 cents:

And I agree with Kat. Drunk posts are fine in the general discussion areas (ie: chit chat, makes your day, etc). But not in srs bzns threads, or in excess.
In other words, idc if it's not hurting anyone as long as it's not disruptive. If it gets to that point, then sure give a cool off period of a couple hours before they can post again.
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Old 06/26/2012   #6
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Just ban em from feedback until they're not drunk?

I'm ok with that as long as they don't lose all access, drunk posts have been pretty harmless for the most part.
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Old 06/26/2012   #7
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I think the OP was just worded poorly. The point of this thread was just to move the discussion from staff. The discussion didn't seem to be concluded, at least to me. so feel free to share your thoughts please (if you have any on the matter).

No one's gonna get banned for making a few drunk posts. It would just be if someone is going a little crazy with it and it's interrupting or abusing certain threads. It's not like that's a persistant problem around here or anything. Not that I've seen anyway.
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Old 06/26/2012   #8
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I'ma just quote what I said in the staff thread:

Personally I'm fine with people posting drunk so long as their often hilarious ramblings stay in the general discussion area and don't get too spammy/aren't making asshats of themselves.
Leon S. Kennedy wrote: Just ban em from feedback until they're not drunk?

I'm ok with that as long as they don't lose all access, drunk posts have been pretty harmless for the most part.
I kinda like this idea, just ban 'em from the section they're making trouble. If they start spamming somewhere else then you could start considering just tempbanning them for a couple hours.
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Old 06/26/2012   #9
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I'm a little confused, I mean if we're waiting for people to embarass themselves, surely we don't know if they're actually embarassed until the next day? And then like....what if they post something like 'oh man I could totally blow a goat right now' ? Does that just get deleted or something and we never speak of it again?

I totally agree with the disruption of serious threads thing though.
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Old 06/26/2012   #10
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Drunk posts annoy me, but if it's clear that a post has been made while drunk I will usually just avoid reading it completely, so it's not too much hassle. I'm not sure bans - even temporary ones - are necessary, because I'd be concerned about them being applied arbitrarily. Unless, that is, people decide to volunteer to have themselves banned when they're drunk in the future, perhaps if they've regretted something they've posted here before. That could work.
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Old 06/26/2012   #11
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I find drunk posts much more tolerable than excessive sobriety
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Old 06/27/2012   #12
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I think drunk posts are fine and most of the time drunkards turn out to be pretty hilarious. However, I'm fine with temp banning people if they become an annoyance. But, that isn't anything new. We've done it a few times in the past with Username and once with Mumble, iirc.
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Old 06/27/2012   #13
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^this

though I admit that unless it's causing havoc or likely to embarrass the poster (if they talking about serious stuff they might after regret after) it's better to just lol at it. Hell, I'd find it even funnier if there were a specific thread to post in while wasted, but that might be a better idea left as is.
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Old 06/27/2012   #14
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Yeah, basically the idea is that if they're not just drunk but very obviously annoying a fairly large number of users, then we can give them a few hours time out to cool off. Despite the name, they don't necessarily have to be drunk either - if they're just really agitated or something and making an unpleasant spectacle, then the same thing can apply. It probably won't need to be done very frequently, but in the rare cases where it would it would probably be prudent to have some sort of policy codified.
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“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 06/27/2012   #15
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this is hilarious
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