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Old 11/10/2016   #241
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I don't agree with you post, Jason (didn't quote to save space), but we all have our different opinions.

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Old 11/10/2016   #242
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yeah i'm sure putin is suddenly going to turn things around and stop all the corruption in his government and the suppression of the press and anti-lgbtq policies and all that

or he could just give trump/pence some pointers about how to install their own christian-centric regime and how best to crack down on the press and the gays
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Old 11/10/2016   #243
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Okay I googled, some sources say he COULD undo what Obama did but they don't know if he will for sure. (Obviously)

But he can't undo legalizing gay marriage as it was the Supreme Court and I would hope any discrimination laws just don't even go through. We're better than that.. right?


Right?


EDIT:
. That said the election of this man was an act of war against anybody who isn't white and straight.
I'm so sick of hearing this. My facebook was full of "DAMN THE STRAIGHT WHITE MALE!"... no.. stop

Almost 60 million people voted for Trump. I guarantee you they were NOT all straight white males. The fault, again, lies with the DNC and a broken electoral college. Period.
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Old 11/10/2016   #244
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That said the election of this man was an act of war against anybody who isn't white and straight.
I'm a black male and I'm sort of sick of hearing this. Yes, the election of Donald Trump was a failure that can be directly attributed to white people. But the identity politics that culminated with "Blame White People For Everything" is partially what led to this mess in the first place and hanging on to it will do absolutely no good to anyone.

White people, it's true, you guys sometimes fuck shit up. A lot, yeah. But we're going to need to come together to fix our shit. There comes a point where even if something is your guys fault, blaming you for it won't help it get fixed. Let's just fucking fix it.

Mike Pence has already confirmed they are going to begin undoing the protection Obama put in place for LGBTQ citizens. More atrocities will soon follow I am sure.
Source? I loathe Pence, but I need a source, man!
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Old 11/10/2016   #245
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Dashell wrote: EDIT:
. That said the election of this man was an act of war against anybody who isn't white and straight.
I'm so sick of hearing this. My facebook was full of "DAMN THE STRAIGHT WHITE MALE!"... no.. stop

Almost 60 million people voted for Trump. I guarantee you they were NOT all straight white males. The fault, again, lies with the DNC and a broken electoral college. Period.
White straight males:

- Are not at risk of having their right to marry stricken.
- Are not at risk of having their protection from discrimination stricken.
- Are not at risk of having their religious liberty violated.
- Are not at risk of mass deportation.

I don't care what brainwashed idiots voted for Trump or why they did it, but now all are punished. Fucking. Period.
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Old 11/10/2016   #246
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Jason Tandro wrote: I don't care what brainwashed idiots voted for Trump or why they did it, but now all are punished. Fucking. Period.
And that is why you are not in charge of anything.
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Old 11/10/2016   #247
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It wasn't just white men. Ms Hillary could not even get white women to vote for ha and that is what? Hilarious.

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Old 11/10/2016   #248
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@Dashell: SCOTUS rulings can be overturned by subsequent SCOTUS rulings or amendments. And whilst we (or I, anyway) don't know if unravelling marriage equality and further restricting reproductive rights are things to be actively pursued by the Trump administration (because again, no real policies), the whole Republican Congress and Mike "Conversion Therapy" Pence in the upper echelons of government is nagl. Then there's still the question of Court appointees.

Jason Tandro wrote: the system can, ultimately, be used to accomplish great things.
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Old 11/10/2016   #249
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Fascination wrote:
Jason Tandro wrote: I don't care what brainwashed idiots voted for Trump or why they did it, but now all are punished. Fucking. Period.
And that is why you are not in charge of anything.
Impressive counter argument. Really that must have taken you ages to come up with that childish snappish retort.

Actually I'm "in charge" of a family, with a bisexual, Mexican wife who is now at risk for greater discrimination (even if being married to me she might not show the bisexual side of herself). I have a daughter who may choose to be a full blown lesbian when she grows up and god bless her. Or maybe she views herself more as a he. Thanks to the damage this government can now do to her, that future along with the future of millions of others is now compromised and this is why people of all walks of life are, rightfully, angry.

So if you want to snipe and be a contrarian go right ahead. I'll start planning for the worst while hoping for the best.


Edit: No, I'm going to go with this. I countered Dash's argument. While we are obviously on different sides of the spectrum, I was attacking her point. Your counter was literally nothing but an ad hominem attack with the intellectual value of a Youtube comment.

If you are not able to express yourself better than this, maybe you don't belong being a moderator.


@Random Nobody: Did you even read the rest of that post?

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Old 11/10/2016   #250
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Jason Tandro wrote:
@Random Nobody: Did you even read the rest of that post?
I shole did.

Not to sound like an embittered radikool, but Trump's election is a culmination of sentiments that have been fermenting for 8+ years. And the legacy surrounding that sentiment is a lot older than that. The fact that this country hasn't been burnt to the ground yet is honestly the real miracle. The anger people have shown that's led to this new wave of protests these last few years is not only justified, but necessary.
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Old 11/10/2016   #251
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Impressive counter argument. Really that must have taken you ages to come up with that childish snappish retort.

Actually I'm "in charge" of a family, with a bisexual, Mexican wife who is now at risk for greater discrimination (even if being married to me she might not show the bisexual side of herself). I have a daughter who may choose to be a full blown lesbian when she grows up and god bless her. Or maybe she views herself more as a he. Thanks to the damage this government can now do to her, that future along with the future of millions of others is now compromised and this is why people of all walks of life are, rightfully, angry.

So if you want to snipe and be a contrarian go right ahead. I'll start planning for the worst while hoping for the best.
And I share your concerns.

But the reason why I said that is because the sentiment of "punish all white people" is ridiculous and untenable.

Unless I read your statement wrong, and you meant "we're all punished", then yeah, I apologize.

Still, the sentiment of "Blame White People" is untenable, and will lead to Trump and People Like Trump being elected over and over again for decades. It's not going to work.
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Old 11/10/2016   #252
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Fascination wrote:

Unless I read your statement wrong, and you meant "we're all punished", then yeah, I apologize.
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Well you did, you should and I stand by my assertion which may have been ninja'd that before you spout idiotic ad hominem attacks you should maybe ask for clarification.

I thought the context was pretty clear that "all are punished" a reference to Romeo & Juliet, meant literally that. All are punished. And particularly the ones that I was referring to are those who are going to be hurt the most by Trump's asinine policies.

Edit: As a side note - I AM a white, straight male. If I was calling for the decimation of the entire people wouldn't suicide have to be my first stop?
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Old 11/10/2016   #253
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Well you did, you should and I stand by my assertion which may have been ninja'd that before you spout idiotic ad hominem attacks you should maybe ask for clarification.
Yeah, maybe.

I thought the context was pretty clear that "all are punished" a reference to Romeo & Juliet, meant literally that. All are punished.
I've never read Romeo and Juliet, man.
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Old 11/10/2016   #254
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Fascination wrote:
I thought the context was pretty clear that "all are punished" a reference to Romeo & Juliet, meant literally that. All are punished.
I've never read Romeo and Juliet, man.
You're missing nothing, it's grossly over-rated. When I want Shakespeare, I'll take Macbeth any day. But I also grew up in the 90s in a house with a teenage sister so of course I saw the Leonardo DiCaprio version... ugh.
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Old 11/10/2016   #255
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Seriously though, I do apologize for being a dick. I'm just sick of shit, man.
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