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Old 02/24/2009   #1
Cat Rage Room
Default NOTICE TO EVERYONE

I may be acting out of my authority here, but at this point I'm going to say this anyway and hope the admins and other staff agree with me;

No more rampantly spammy posts. I've been seeing it for a while and I've even been handing out some unofficial warnings, but enough is seriously enough. I've seen entire pages or more of topics get derailed by posts that are nothing more than shit like 'MOAR NOODZ' and pointless one sentence back and forth between two people. Put an end to that shit.

Now I'm not coming down on anyone like a Nazi; we're all here to have fun, enjoy ourselves, and cracking jokes and dicking around is for the good of all, but perpetuating one liner and nonsense spam posts for a page straight is more than pushing it. A one liner or some 'joshing' is fine here or there, but it's getting ridiculous. Seriously, stop.
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Old 02/24/2009   #2
The Man
Default Re: New rule, dickheads.

Does it really matter that much? It's just spam. Sure, if it routinely derailed serious discussion topics, then I'd say it'd be worth putting a stop to it, but most of the topics that have been getting spammed up aren't about anything of actual importance anyway. If you don't want a spam forum (and most people don't seem to want one here) then the best way to allow people to get to know each other is to allow them a little bit of leeway in what they can post.

Not to mention calling the whole board "dickheads" isn't likely to get you on anyone's good side.

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I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 02/24/2009   #3
Cat Rage Room
Default Re: New rule, dickheads.

Of course it matters. Why shit up a topic when you can just...not shit up a topic?
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Old 02/24/2009   #4
Max Payne
Default Re: New rule, dickheads.

Hey, whether or not there's any merit to your argument, it's no reason to be rude, and inflammatory.

It also is overstepping your bounds to try and put forward a new rule without staff consensus before hand.

Something like this is just unnecessary, and could stir enough shit on it's own.
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Old 02/24/2009   #5
Cat Rage Room
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

Fair enough point Dacon; I changed the topic title. And yeah, this isn't a new rule, but it IS my job to enforce the current ones, and I'm pretty sure not shitting up entire topics with spam is a rule.
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Old 02/24/2009   #6
The Man
Default Re: New rule, dickheads.

[quote author=The Notorious M.O.G. link=topic=579.msg22226#msg22226 date=1235448092]
Of course it matters. Why shit up a topic when you can just...not shit up a topic?
[/quote]A bit of spam in a thread that's mostly intended for conversation between members doesn't amount to "shit[ting] up a topic." The no spam rule is for serious discussion threads like the religion thread, not for chatter threads like the member picture discussion thread.
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You’re better off not dreaming of the things to come
Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 02/24/2009   #7
Cat Rage Room
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

Going a page in a half (and no, I'm not exaggerating) full of one liner back and forth between the same two people is more than a little bit of spam. I've enforced this before in the Mod forum, and the other Staff agreed with me; I'm sure I won't come across significant opposition on this front.
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Old 02/24/2009   #8
The Man
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

Does anyone outside the staff really care about a page and a half of banter in a thread like the chit chat thread? I haven't seen any complaints.
__________________


You’re better off not dreaming of the things to come
Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 02/24/2009   #9
Cat Rage Room
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

It wasn't in the chit chat thread. Like I said, I've enforced this rule before (regarding a certain member) and the staff and one admin agreed with me.
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Old 02/24/2009   #10
Max Payne
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

Well, maybe you should have actually consulted the mods before making some loud declaration that's really not likely to help.
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Old 02/24/2009   #11
The Man
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

The only threads I've seen that much banter in are the chit chat thread, the photo discussion thread and other threads where there's no clearly defined topic. And you evaded my question; I asked if anyone outside the staff has complained about spam.
__________________


You’re better off not dreaming of the things to come
Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 02/24/2009   #12
Cat Rage Room
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

I asked if anyone complained, which you ignored.
No they haven't, but that's irrelevant. Rules are rules. If you were to look in the Mod forum, we discuss and enforce infractions whether anyone complains or not. If you want to argue that rules and enforcement of the rules should be variable whether anyone complains or not, make another topic.

Well, maybe you should have actually consulted the mods before making some loud declaration that's really not likely to help.
We'll see what the rest of the staff thinks when they chime in.
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Old 02/24/2009   #13
Max Payne
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

They should have been involved from the start.

United Front>one disgruntled person.
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Old 02/24/2009   #14
The Man
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

[quote author=The Notorious M.O.G. link=topic=579.msg22238#msg22238 date=1235448815]
I asked if anyone complained, which you ignored.
No they haven't, but that's irrelevant.[/quote]No it isn't. If it's not disturbing anyone, then it's not causing any harm to the functioning of the message board and there's absolutely no reason to restrict member freedom by cracking down upon it.

Rules are rules.
Doesn't stop retarded rules from being retarded.

If you were to look in the Mod forum, we discuss and enforce infractions whether anyone complains or not. If you want to argue that rules and enforcement of the rules should be variable whether anyone complains or not, make another topic.
Why should I have to make another topic? You are the one announcing an arbitrary change of rule enforcement based on a non-existent complaint no one has made, without any prior consultation with other staff members. There is abaolutely no reason I cannot reasonably bring up my objection to your actions in this thread.
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You’re better off not dreaming of the things to come
Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 02/24/2009   #15
Cat Rage Room
Default Re: NOTICE TO EVERYONE

I guess we should ditch the rules then, and ditch the moderators since they obviously have no power to enforce said already established rules without the userbase complaining. Like I said, we can further discuss this when the rest of the Staff chimes in; I have no further intention of arguing with either of you.

I will still enforce the 'no completely ridiculous spamming' rule and anyone getting buck wild with said completely ridiculous will still be warned by me (like we have previously been doing).
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