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~~Deus~~ · 12/13/2009

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L..._Discrepancies

Anyone else seen this? I found it quite interesting. i naturally skipped over the parts of the games I didn't play but for VII through X-2 it was pretty fun to read.

**Cat Rage Room** · 12/14/2009

Balamb Garden has a ballroom which is seen in several scenes in the story, however it is never clear how the characters actually get there as the room does not exist when walking around in the in-game map. However during the ending, when Squall and Rinoa kiss, the camera zooms out from the garden, showing that the balcony is right next to the quad (where the cafeteria should be). So logically, the cafeteria could serve as a ballroom when the tables are cleared out.

Sigh. People over at the Wiki can be so goddamn dumb.

Raquelborn · 12/14/2009

During the fight between Loz and Tifa when he lifts her up a part of her body turns invisible.

Really? Has anyone see this?

Also, I thought the "Tifa's gloves" blooper was fixed in AC Complete.

Tetsujin · 12/14/2009

Raquelborn wrote: Really? Has anyone see this?

Also, I thought the "Tifa's gloves" blooper was fixed in AC Complete.

I haven't seen this, although I did see Cloud's sword momentarily disappearing during the highway chase.

And yeah, it was.

Wiki wrote: The Sister Ray cannon is not aimed at North Cave, although an FMV shows it hitting the correct target. This is known as it is possible to 'aim' the Highwind in the direction the cannon points- it is several degrees off. However, it is possible that the ray may have been deflected off the Diamond Weapon, thereby causing it to hit the target.

...what?

It didn't deflect at all, it went through in a straight line. And I doubt Shinra was EXPECTING Weapon to show up so they purposefully aimed the cannon to the wrong direction, knowing that they could then deflect it into the real target by using Diamond Weapon and...
GAH THIS IS STUPID.

During the first chase scene, one of the Shadow Creepers seem to run on air instead of the ground.

This is pretty dumb too, since it was done on purpose. Cloud hits the thing while it is in mid-air, so while it re-materializes, it sinks back down to the ground (while still doing the running motion).

Gah.

**ForceStealer** · 12/14/2009

I'm sure Shinra was counting on a Weapon to deflect the shot....

Several degrees off is pretty minor. I'd say BC talking about AVALANCHE shooting Midgar with the Junon cannon is much more of a discrepancy.

Tetsujin · 12/14/2009

ForceStealer wrote: I'm sure Shinra was counting on a Weapon to deflect the shot....

Several degrees off is pretty minor. I'd say BC talking about AVALANCHE shooting Midgar with the Junon cannon is much more of a discrepancy.

Unless the cannon is able to turn more than 90° to the right (impossible actually) OR shoot around the whole globe, this really is one huge discrepancy.

**Ryushikaze** · 12/15/2009

Tetsujin wrote: Unless the cannon is able to turn more than 90° to the right (impossible actually) OR shoot around the whole globe, this really is one huge discrepancy.

It's pan global.

**ForceStealer** · 12/15/2009

I mean seriously, did the writers not even LOOK at the FF7 map? lol. For one, the Junon cannon actually fired projectiles, so the concept of keeping it airborne the whole way around the globe is...ludicrous. (Though Scarlet does say the Sister Ray fires "mako-powered shells" doesn't she? Doesn't look like a shell...)

I mean AVALANCHE having control of the Junon cannon is a big threat, why didn't they just leave it at that. Or say they're gonna shoot Costa del Sol or something.

Tetsujin · 12/15/2009

ForceStealer wrote: I mean seriously, did the writers not even LOOK at the FF7 map? lol. For one, the Junon cannon actually fired projectiles, so the concept of keeping it airborne the whole way around the globe is...ludicrous.

I don't know, it might depend on the fire power and the trajectory or something, using the planet's gravity for a slingshot effect.
Dunno if that'd work.

**ForceStealer** · 12/15/2009

You know...even if it COULD get around the globe, I still don't think the could get a good angle to Midgar. Especially with all the mountains and stuff.

It would be an incredible feat.

Neutron Ronnie · 12/15/2009

Homing mako missiles.

***The Twilight Mexican*** · 12/15/2009

One of many reasons why Before Crisis is utter, utter crap.

***Cthulhu*** · 12/15/2009

Especially with all the mountains and stuff.

It goes through that.

Also, the projectile was so insane and overpowered that it created its own time-space rift, allowing it to change its trajectory and bend around the globe. In fact, it only reappears in normal spacetime a few times, coincidentally when you see it in CG scenes.

Raquelborn · 12/17/2009

This is pretty good at showing some of Advent Children's mistakes.

YouTube Video

Makoeyes987 · 12/17/2009

Well that vid isn't really correct either.

No shit, Rufus doesn't have any signs of Geostigma despite having his head bandaged. He's mostly just acting. He didn't need a wheel chair either. His Geostigma is just on his hand and maybe arm. His whole sick routine is a joke.

And the reason why Kadaj screamed was because he saw that Cloud's sword ended up chopping the box and hurting the pieces of Jenova inside. That's why he looked back at Cloud angrily. Cause he hurt "mother."

And I don't think there's really a ghost image of Aerith in that picture.

12/13/2009	#1
~~Deus~~ Full Member Banned Join Date: Dec 2009	Plot Holes, Goofs and Other Discrepancies http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L..._Discrepancies Anyone else seen this? I found it quite interesting. i naturally skipped over the parts of the games I didn't play but for VII through X-2 it was pretty fun to read.

12/14/2009	#3
Raquelborn Epic Member "I slice your ass in 4." Join Date: May 2009 Age: 31 Sex: Female Location: London, England AKA: Raq, Raquel.	During the fight between Loz and Tifa when he lifts her up a part of her body turns invisible. Really? Has anyone see this? Also, I thought the "Tifa's gloves" blooper was fixed in AC Complete. __________________

12/14/2009	#4
Tetsujin Great Old One IronDude Join Date: Nov 2008	Raquelborn wrote: Really? Has anyone see this? Also, I thought the "Tifa's gloves" blooper was fixed in AC Complete. I haven't seen this, although I did see Cloud's sword momentarily disappearing during the highway chase. And yeah, it was. Wiki wrote: The Sister Ray cannon is not aimed at North Cave, although an FMV shows it hitting the correct target. This is known as it is possible to 'aim' the Highwind in the direction the cannon points- it is several degrees off. However, it is possible that the ray may have been deflected off the Diamond Weapon, thereby causing it to hit the target. ...what? It didn't deflect at all, it went through in a straight line. And I doubt Shinra was EXPECTING Weapon to show up so they purposefully aimed the cannon to the wrong direction, knowing that they could then deflect it into the real target by using Diamond Weapon and... GAH THIS IS STUPID. During the first chase scene, one of the Shadow Creepers seem to run on air instead of the ground. This is pretty dumb too, since it was done on purpose. Cloud hits the thing while it is in mid-air, so while it re-materializes, it sinks back down to the ground (while still doing the running motion). Gah. Last edited by Tetsujin; 12/14/2009 at 07:28 PM.

12/14/2009	#5
ForceStealer Super Moderator Great Old One Double Growth Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 34 Sex: Male AKA: Ramza Beoulve, Sonic the Hedgehog, Vash the Stampede	I'm sure Shinra was counting on a Weapon to deflect the shot.... Several degrees off is pretty minor. I'd say BC talking about AVALANCHE shooting Midgar with the Junon cannon is much more of a discrepancy. __________________ hitoshura wrote: Don't belittle my peoples, bitch. We work hard and we do what we're told. And might possibly be Scottish. ultima espio wrote: I'm not sure if it was a BOMB, it could have been MAKO, KING, BEST, or ORBS.

12/14/2009	#6
Tetsujin Great Old One IronDude Join Date: Nov 2008	ForceStealer wrote: I'm sure Shinra was counting on a Weapon to deflect the shot.... Several degrees off is pretty minor. I'd say BC talking about AVALANCHE shooting Midgar with the Junon cannon is much more of a discrepancy. Unless the cannon is able to turn more than 90° to the right (impossible actually) OR shoot around the whole globe, this really is one huge discrepancy.

12/14/2009	#2
Cat Rage Room Super Moderator Great Old One Join Date: Nov 2008 Sex: Male Location: Seattle, WA AKA: Mog/JIMMY BROOKS	Balamb Garden has a ballroom which is seen in several scenes in the story, however it is never clear how the characters actually get there as the room does not exist when walking around in the in-game map. However during the ending, when Squall and Rinoa kiss, the camera zooms out from the garden, showing that the balcony is right next to the quad (where the cafeteria should be). So logically, the cafeteria could serve as a ballroom when the tables are cleared out. Sigh. People over at the Wiki can be so goddamn dumb.

12/15/2009	#7
Ryushikaze Super Moderator Great Old One Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 38 Sex: Depends on the incarnation Location: Chapel Hill AKA: Tim, Ryu	Tetsujin wrote: Unless the cannon is able to turn more than 90° to the right (impossible actually) OR shoot around the whole globe, this really is one huge discrepancy. It's pan global. __________________ Advent Fanboys: Fear the fanboys. Then laugh at them. - A Naked Tifa Production Now this is a compilation entry I want to see.

12/15/2009	#9
Tetsujin Great Old One IronDude Join Date: Nov 2008	ForceStealer wrote: I mean seriously, did the writers not even LOOK at the FF7 map? lol. For one, the Junon cannon actually fired projectiles, so the concept of keeping it airborne the whole way around the globe is...ludicrous. I don't know, it might depend on the fire power and the trajectory or something, using the planet's gravity for a slingshot effect. Dunno if that'd work.

12/15/2009	#11
Neutron Ronnie Epic Member From The Front of Armament Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 36 Sex: Female Location: Maximum Security Ward for the Mentally Unbalanced AKA: Powerslave	Homing mako missiles. __________________ \m/ UP THE IRONS! \m/

12/15/2009	#12
*The Twilight Mexican* *Administrator* Great Old One Ex-SeeD-ingly good Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 35 Sex: Male Location: North Carolina AKA: TresDias, Hawkeye, El Diablo Gato, Martha Jones, Ariadne, Squall of SeeD, Squall_of_SeeD	One of many reasons why Before Crisis is utter, utter crap. __________________ Quexinos wrote: I wish I had been there when Cloud realized he had geostigma. I bet he cried. hito wrote: man i miss flip phones, they were cool and now everything is a boring slab

12/15/2009	#13
*Cthulhu* *Administrator* Great Old One Join Date: Nov 2008	Especially with all the mountains and stuff. It goes through that. Also, the projectile was so insane and overpowered that it created its own time-space rift, allowing it to change its trajectory and bend around the globe. In fact, it only reappears in normal spacetime a few times, coincidentally when you see it in CG scenes.

12/17/2009	#15
Makoeyes987 Staff Emeritus Great Old One *Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.* Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 36 AKA: Makoeyes987, the notorious liar Marquis Halim Ondore IV, Cupcake, Smooth Criminal, Xelloss, Christian Bale, Ma'at	Well that vid isn't really correct either. No shit, Rufus doesn't have any signs of Geostigma despite having his head bandaged. He's mostly just acting. He didn't need a wheel chair either. His Geostigma is just on his hand and maybe arm. His whole sick routine is a joke. And the reason why Kadaj screamed was because he saw that Cloud's sword ended up chopping the box and hurting the pieces of Jenova inside. That's why he looked back at Cloud angrily. Cause he hurt "mother." And I don't think there's really a ghost image of Aerith in that picture.