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Old 04/02/2010   #6106
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Lightning Farron wrote: I wonder why "clingy" is treated like such a four letter word among the fans. I love Tifa to bits, but yes, she is dependent in the game and has clingy tenancies. It's a natural human response to basically being abandoned by everyone you cared about (by choice or by death). However it also shows how much she grows as a character--while she looks to Cloud for reassurance in FF7, by Advent Children she is taking none of his bullshit and is keeping everyone together while he is falling apart.

It's an interesting role reversal from the game to movie in that he is the one who becomes dependent on her.
That's.. not clinginess. And if we're talking dependence in FF7, Cloud and Tifa are dependent on each other, and not in a co-dependent way.

However, that said, I do have my issues with Tifa in KH because they can't find anything better for a strong woman to do than follow around a complete jackass on a goose chase. For fuck's sake.
Eh, the deliverer of the sword/armor is an old role, and it's only because we don't thing of light in such a way is seems like such a weak thing to do.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6107
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Can someone please give an example of Tifa clingyness?
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Old 04/02/2010   #6108
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Tifa falling apart when Cloud disappears; Tifa giving up the mission to stay by his side when he's a veggie.

"Clingy" to some, "in love" to others. Call it what you want.


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Old 04/02/2010   #6109
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To me, clingy is someone telling you to GTFO and you not taking the hint.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6110
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Also, from the pink perspective, Tifa inviting herself along to the Promised Land, and Tifa forcing herself into the Cloud/Aerith/Denzel family.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6111
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She didn't force herself into the family... Marlene invited Cloud into her family of Tifa and herself O_o
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Old 04/02/2010   #6112
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Now then, neither woman is 'clingy', but I will have to agree, it does fit Aerith's actions more than it does Tifa's.
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And...
Can someone please give an example of Tifa clingyness?
Something real and not what clerii use as 'evidence'.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6113
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That's.. not clinginess. And if we're talking dependence in FF7, Cloud and Tifa are dependent on each other, and not in a co-dependent way.
Uhm, yeah. To be clingy is to be overly dependent on another person, usually for emotional support. This is not necessarily a synonym for obsession and I don't know why people keep treating it like that.

In any case, she clearly looks to Cloud for emotional support and reassurance during the game.

Also, from the pink perspective, Tifa inviting herself along to the Promised Land, and Tifa forcing herself into the Cloud/Aerith/Denzel family.
Off topic but maybe it's just me, I have such a pet peeve about pink being a Cleris mascot color just because the forums are pink. There were Cleris sites before that one! Who took the vote that we're represented by pink, wtf?

Also it's my favorite color and I associate it with Victoria's Secret not Cleris, stop tainting it plz. :c

There has to be a better snarky fandom name, c'mon, you guys can do it.

Now then, neither woman is 'clingy', but I will have to agree, it does fit Aerith's actions more than it does Tifa's.
Do cats chase dogs where you come from?

jfc this is like the "who is more tragic" pissing contest all over again. MY HEROINE CAN'T BE CLINGY BECAUSE YOURS IS, FOR SOME REASON.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6114
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Blame Nomura for his designs.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6115
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Blame Nomura for his designs.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6116
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MY HEROINE CAN'T BE CLINGY BECAUSE YOURS IS, FOR SOME REASON.
I loled

I don't see neither of them as clingy really, I don't get where anyone can say with ANY DECENT reason that either one clings.

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Old 04/02/2010   #6117
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Am I the only one who thinks Cloud, himself, is clingy?

The guy can't stop clinging on his past, his woes, and Zack.

Also:

5 Signs That You're Clingy wrote: You always call him or her first -- and you call all the time.
Sometimes before you've even gotten out of bed in the morning. And then loads of other times during the day. The love of your life can't call you first, because you always beat them to it. Not to mention, you call them so frequently that they could guess it was you calling and be right 98% of the time. Yo -- you're obsessed. Put the phone down for 5 minutes!

You have no life of your own.
Do you spend every bit of your free time with your man? Do you spend most of your day thinking about your next date with your woman? Do you put your friends and hobbies on hold unless your man announces that he's going out with the boys? Unless you've just met this person and are riding that "new love" high, you're being clingy. And obsessed.

You're constantly worried about getting dumped.
Insecurity is at the heart of clinginess, so if you're experiencing this one, you need to think about why. It's this fear that makes you want to constantly be around the other person, so you can reassure yourself that they are still there and haven't dumped you.

You're willing to be bored out of your mind just to spend time with them.
If he tells you that he'll be spending the weekend reading Dr. Zhivago and won't be able to talk much, do you then ask if you can drop by to watch him read it? Or maybe you're more clever than that; maybe you just offer to clean his watch so you can watch him without seeming as obsessed as you apparently are.

You're not happy on the inside.
Clinginess is a big mix of insecurity, obsession and other self-esteem issues. Men and women who are clingy are rarely happy for more than the initial few moments when they see the person they're obsessing over, because they immediately start to worry about how they're going to feel when the date is over.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6118
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Lightning Farron wrote: Uhm, yeah. To be clingy is to be overly dependent on another person, usually for emotional support. This is not necessarily a synonym for obsession and I don't know why people keep treating it like that.
No, to be clingy is not allowing people their space or demanding their time overmuch, not letting them go, going out of your way to be near them. Being dependent on another person is 'dependence.'

In any case, she clearly looks to Cloud for emotional support and reassurance during the game.
And Cloud her. Your point?

Off topic but maybe it's just me, I have such a pet peeve about pink being a Cleris mascot color just because the forums are pink. There were Cleris sites before that one! Who took the vote that we're represented by pink, wtf?

Also it's my favorite color and I associate it with Victoria's Secret not Cleris, stop tainting it plz. :c

There has to be a better snarky fandom name, c'mon, you guys can do it.
Blame the leaders. They decided Pink.


Do cats chase dogs where you come from?
At times, but you also seem to be operating under a completely different understanding of what the fuck clinginess entails.
You use 'dependence' as the defining characteristic, in which case Cloud is fairly clingy to Tifa too, whereas I use 'enforced proximity' or perhaps 'possessiveness' as defining.

jfc this is like the "who is more tragic" pissing contest all over again. MY HEROINE CAN'T BE CLINGY BECAUSE YOURS IS, FOR SOME REASON.
Holy fucking shit, Zee, lay off the fuckdamn strawmen. I don't think EITHER fucking woman is clingy, just that Aerith's waiting up at night so Cloud couldn't leave and then running past him to keep him from running off came off as 'more' Clingy than anything Tifa did.

@Thepedobear/Catholic church approved one- Cloud's obsessed, but he doesn't act on it. Not Clingy. Just a bit sad.
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Old 04/02/2010   #6119
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@ IANM, which pretty much proves my point that neither is clingy

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Old 04/02/2010   #6120
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