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Old 05/16/2011   #1
Max Payne
Default The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

Ok. Staff have discussed it, and though many of them were in favor of just simply shutting it down for good, we have agreed to give it another shot.

I don't believe in dictating what people can or can't talk about, so I want to give this another chance to work and give everyone another shot at discussing this Debate that they seem to enjoy talking about.

Here's the deal, there will be no more toleration of any kind of foolishness. If you flame someone, you will be banned. If you troll, you will be banned. If you try and use past events as a weapon against people, you will be banned. Off topic bullshit isn't acceptable either, save the frivolous banter for the clubs please(which might I add, are a haven for whatever their subjects are, if you have a problem with whatever pairing or character the club pertains to, DON'T FUCKING POST any bullshit you have against them). ANYTHING not regarding the LTD and the pairings concerned is off topic, full stop. If you can't keep from doing shit like this, you may as well not even bother posting. Try and circumvent these standards and it will be treated the same as a violation of them. This is not a game.

If it gets so bad that we're banning too many people, we're going to shut down the entire debate for at least a year, but I don't think it will come to that. You people all have it within you to demonstrate basic civility and I expect you to do so. Despite how we may behave sometimes, we are not children.

Now myself and my fellow mods will not go for outright bans on every offense, we will mostly be issuing temp bans, but we do have the ability to completely nix your permissions to this thread and we will make use of it.

The premise is simple, discuss the LTD, do it respectfully and civilly, and we will have no problem. Don't, and I will bring the hammer of god down as fast the internet will allow.

All that said, have fun, and don't fuck it up.

Macros have been expressly banned from the thread. This has been said often enough. It is being added here so no one will have an excuse.

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Old 05/16/2011   #2
The Man
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Just as a footnote to Dacon's excellent opening post, I feel compelled to add that several of us have explicitly agreed to watch this thread like a hawk as a direct precondition to reopening it. If you are dicks to each other, we will find out about it, and we will deal with it quickly. Staff are probably as united on this issue as we've ever been: This thread will not be allowed to become the cesspit it was in every previous incarnation, and we are prepared to do whatever necessary to ensure this does not happen.

Additionally, any post which is not directly relevant to at least one of the pairings covered in the LTD will be considered off-topic and dealt with as necessary. No exceptions.



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I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 05/16/2011   #3
Dashell
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So like I want to post a video right now of Spike from MLP going "NOOOO!"... that would be out as well? It's not on topic but last time videos were okay to post and... just checking so I don't get banned.
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Old 05/16/2011   #4
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WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST SAY WOMAN

DON'T TEMPT ME

I WILL PULL THIS FUCKING TRIGGER
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Old 05/16/2011   #5
Makoeyes987
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Yes. Do not do it. We're as serious as a heart attack regarding this thread.

This entire topic has created its own subculture of BS and nonsense that frankly, we have zero patience for anymore. The strict regulation is in response to the sheer amount of bullcrap that's happened here so it's a whole new game in terms of posting and regulations.

It may suck, but well... that's how it is. It's kinda been pushed to this point.
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Old 05/16/2011   #6
Max Payne
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Now, resume your discussion of triangles of love.

EDIT: And no macros. Keep that shit out of the thread.

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Old 05/16/2011   #7
The Man
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One last thing which wasn't made explicit in the OP, but I feel deserves to be made explicit just so no one can say they had no idea they were breaking a rule: The Lifestream has an explicit rule against bringing discussions here from other boards. In other words, what happens at YouTube stays at YouTube. What happens on FinalFantasyForums.net stays on FinalFantasyForums.net. What happens at CxA stays at CxA. Period. We did not enforce this rule in any previous incarnation of this thread. It will be enforced consistently from here on out. Anyone who violates it will receive at least a warning, if not an infraction or even an outright ban. Don't test us.

The complete list of TLS rules is here. They will be consistently enforced going forward. If you're not familiar with them, now would be a good time to refamiliarise yourself with them, because they will be enforced.
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Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 05/16/2011   #8
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What is this thread about?

It doesn’t clearly say in the first post, and given that the ban hammer seems to be restless in the hands of the mods it might be a good idea to clearly define in a sentence what exactly is to be discussed here.

New members or those that don’t follow TLS threads/politics closely aren’t going to know what they are blundering into. I’m guessing it’s the ongoing Cloti or Cleris debate?
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Old 05/16/2011   #9
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It plainly says this is the new LTD thread. Now discuss or gtfo.
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Old 05/16/2011   #10
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I'm pretty sure Russell simply isn't really sure what the LTD thread is. If it were anyone else, with the possible exception of User Name, I wouldn't believe that possible, but well, it's Russell.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the love triangle between Tifa, Cloud, and Aerith, and to discuss which of them Cloud loves. So basically, yes, Russell's speculation in his final sentence is correct

Now kneel before Zod.

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Dreams are always ending far too soon









“When I was twelve, I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.
I flogged the one-eyed snake, I skinned my sausage, I made
the bald man cry into the turtle stew, which I do believe my
sister ate. At least, I hope she did.” -Tyrion Lannister
“The management is very bad. In fact, let’s not mince words: The management is terrible!
We’ve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic
decisions. This is a plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these
people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I’ll admit that
anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after
century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious
incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without
question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous
and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was, ‘No.’” -V
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” -Thomas Pynchon
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
“Why throw money at problems? That's what money is for. Should the nation's wealth be redistributed? It has been and continues to be redistributed to a few people in a manner strikingly unhelpful.” -Kurt Vonnegut
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -John Steinbeck
“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” -Sun Tzu
“...pero Capitán, obedecer por obedecer, así, sin pensarlo... sólo lo hacen gentes como usted, Capitán.” -Dr Ferreiro, Pan’s Labyrinth
“If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake
“Yeah, you really got my act down good, guys. That'll be great. ‘You know, when I’m done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched! That’s why I drink Orange Drink.’” -Bill Hicks








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Old 05/17/2011   #11
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Well, good job keeping the "off topic bullshit" to a minimum so far.
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Old 05/17/2011   #12
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Either start a discussion or don't post. That is the absolute last warning to everyone.
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Old 05/17/2011   #13
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I honestly believe Cloud really loves Tifa. But can't get the balls to say it properly. Even in AC.
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Old 05/17/2011   #14
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And a bold soul steps forth I shall assist in attempting to kickstart it.

I agree, I also don't think Cloud was thinking much about romance during FF7. Maybe that's a side effect of letting the player choose who he's friendly to. But even your chances to flirt dry out after disc 1. He seems completely dead-set on his mission the entire time. Not that he is or is not oblivious about women anyway, but it would help explain why he's almost completely unaware of Aerith's and Tifa's advances. He even seems pretty ready to go on with the mission before dawn the morning after with Tifa (no matter what happened), she has to tell him to stay for some snuggling.
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Old 05/17/2011   #15
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Vash the Stampede wrote: Not that he is or is not oblivious about women anyway
Actually...

Both Aerith, who is forthright, and Tifa, who is demure, have feelings for Cloud but he is none the wiser to them.
So I agree, I don't think he's thinking much about romance at all, at least not until the highwind scene when he finally decides he should say something.
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