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Oh, you put the chronology a lot better than me. XD But yeah, something like that. I guess we'll all see definitely in Part 3. I mean, I don't think they're lying? But I also don't think they'd reveal massive story spoilers in an interview? I still have my fingers crossed for a happy ending...

Yeah, I mean, in Rebirth Cloud opens up to Tifa about his identity problems and his fear of cellular degradation -- mind, after attacking her in the midst of a Sephiroth-induced breakdown -- but supposedly a couple of years down the line, he isn't going to do the same in ACC, lol? Like, that...

The thing is, one of the more interesting aspects of fiction is perspective. How the story frames events and behaviours. For example, write a story from the perspective of a couple of criminals and most of the audience will sympathise with them instead of their nameless, faceless victims. And...

Yeah, it's kind of amazing that the girls get raked over hot coals and called every horrible thing for their flaws but say one (valid) criticism of Cloud and suddenly everyone's all, "Oh but he's a poor baby, you just don't understand." I mean, how many people still like to bring up Aerith's...

I liked it the most on the rooftops in Remake because Cloud was actually laughing along. Yeah, I think things like chemistry and romance need mutuality to work effectively. I mean... obviously, lol.

Yeah, that's kind of silly since Cloud's an unreliable narrator too and an unreliable narrator doesn't mean irredeemable liar either? And haven't they already talked in the game about how they weren't that close as children but they still want to learn and know more about each other?

For me, it's like... It showed that Aerith has to do most of the "romantic effort" on the date, so to speak, and Cloud's not really humouring that. You can't even say that he's, like, romantically clueless because you can contrast his behaviour when he's with Tifa and with Tifa he has the water...

To be honest, all of that made me so happy that I don't interpret media through tropes, lmao. You know, when I first played FF7 OG, I thought CA was canon. I'd read it online somewhere and I didn't really have a reason to doubt it. But then I got to the point where Aerith died and almost...

I don't read/watch a lot of harems but I've gathered from the ones I have read/watched is that the main character can waver without any feelings involved, lol. Usually because in harems the MC has the personality of a wet noodle, lol. You know, I think everyone is entitled to their...

Ah, yes. That bit of dialogue with absolutely no pronouns in the original Japanese, lol? But the official novellas are bad, don't you know? So they're not canon. :rage: To be honest, I consider this proprietary attitude towards FF7 OG a bit weird. But then, if they denounce everything but FF7...

Well, I always thought that Aerith started to untangle the whole "my ex-boyfriend in you" during/after the Gold Saucer date. And Cloud, well, wasn't exactly there to get it. And then Aerith died, what, a couple of days later? And then Cloud declared that only Tifa's opinion matters and that Tifa...

To be honest, I don't think there is any sort of logic to it. I mean, if non-canon shippers who insisted that their ship is totally canon had logic to it, they probably wouldn't insist that it's a totally canon thing and instead just enjoyed it? So their interpretations are more like whatever...

Probably because it "discredits" Zerith. Though, from what I remember, Aerith tried to think about what she loved about Cloud which summoned Zack, they spent a bit of time hate-flirting, and it ended with Cloud and Tifa going back to the real world, and implying Zack and Aerith getting along...

To add, one pervasive fanon I've seen around is that Cloud was traumatised before he left the village? Because, you know, the entire village was ostracising him and his mum, which is why he wanted to become a hero~ so everyone would see that he is somebody of worth after all~ dattebayo! I...

The chocobo one is okay-ish because the tail feathers are kind of reminiscent of fleur-de-lis style. The music box one with "Cloud's hair", though... I mean, that is clearly the meteor? You can even see the small materia dot there. It's interesting how every non-canon ship which shippers insist...

To be honest, if Cloud kissing Tifa, the games setting up Aerith and Zack's reunion, Cloud telling Aerith "let's make more memories we're nakama", and Aerith saying she isn't even sure of her like don't remove this "ambiguity," then I hardly think anything will. I mean, what more do people want...

I think they were "predicting" what will happen in Part 3, lol. Oh ye Clotis and your media illiteracy, Cloud was just chilling, having a break. Don't judge him, he was tired. He has to lug around that giant sword all day every day after all. :desu: (A smiley so people know I'm joking, lol.)

I am sorry for quoting a person who can't respond here but I'm just. I'm dead.

Yeah, it's kind of amazing that all non-canon shippers who argue for the canonicity of their ship just don't seem to get that? I think the funniest comment I saw there was this: Like, the devs didn't need to bring a dead ex-boyfriend back to life -- or whatever Zack is -- just to have him get...

I'd take it. :desu: (I'm selfish for happy endings, okay! Don't judge me, lol.) You know, even if CT wasn't canon, it's not as if CTs would just stop shipping them because someone asks?? Otherwise, CAs would've already done that too with their ship?? This is like those people who propose an...