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I share your concerns as well. I honestly don't know how they will go about showing ZA in part 3. Almost like they've left themselves too much to do. They've been relying on Zack to carry the torch and that's why he's all about Aerith from the beginning of Rebirth. But Aerith is the question...

I agree with this. Way I see it is they will have to bite the bullet concerning a final resolution to Aerith's feelings regardless if there will be a kiss or not. There is no point in placing so much emphasis on the same if they weren't - Zack was told explicitly she "likes" Cloud. We know she...

Lol, I was always indifferent to CA as a ship. It didn't make any sense to me but I was happy to live and let live. But ever since CAs tried to co-opt Zack as an ally/supporter to their cause after Rebirth and fundamentally twisted his role, I've gotten more and more "radicalized". The nerve...

I feel they are angry because It directly addresses some of their most dearly held arguments about the church scene. No, Aerith's "confession" was not an outright declaration of love, she was confused and said as much. Cloud was not, in fact, acting like a gormless anime protagonist while the...

Haha, I was just reading it. The seethe is real over on hardcore CA side, hive has been overturned. Brilliant thread and analysis, though.

I find it funny how dream date Aerith "primes" Cloud's Soldier persona just before commencing the date. In English she says "up and at ' em, Soldier!" to get him out of the chair. For all that CAs go on about her seeing the real Cloud before anyone else, this seems contradictory to me. This is...

I don't get it, either. Their arguments hinge on Aerith's supposed happy ending - she wanted to live, you see. Why are you pushing Aerith to be dead together with a rando she doesn't even love anymore - you must hate Aerith and Zack! She wants to be alive with Cloud. When you ask what happens...

Does he actually say "that's cute, a couple of lovebirds"? I don't know Japanese but I've seen this translation pushed heavily by Twitter CAs usually in an attempt to prove Zack has accepted Aerith moving on and becoming a CA supporter. My understanding is he replies with an onomatopeia "hyu...

As a Zack fan, found the whole sequence infuriating on first viewing, especially with the Marlene setup right before. I wasn't really expecting to have ZA validated coming into Rebirth so my first thought was - I get it, she likes Cloud now - but why juxtapose Zack going thru hell like that just...

I'm of the opinion ZA received the most intimate, tender moment in the game right at the start. At least among the non-optional scenes. I would hesitate to put even Tifa GS date above it considering they both acted like awkward teens right after. Zack does not. He knows how he views Aerith...

Cissnei offers to rub suntan lotion on him at the beach. Dude is like "go do something else". Cissnei then correctly guesses he wants to call Aerith. Pretty girl in bikini offers to rub lotion on him and all this dude can think about is calling his girl back home. Not to mention the fanclub...

Seems like a good explanation about why omni-Aerith doesn't interact with Zack, despite presumably knowing he's back. She knows Sephiroth's game to a certain degree, I would assume. If it was Remake Aerith that saved Zack then omni-Aerith would stay out of the way to avoid giving Sephiroth what...

I don't know about the Japanese version but when she says "you're not him, and that's ok" to Cloud in the gondola, referring to Zack - that was the moment all arguments about Aerith actually wanting to move on died for me. You don't say that on a date. You just don't, especially not when you're...

Adding to this discussion about war criminals and terrorists. The part with the seventh infantry at Junon didn't sit right with me, either. Everybody loves these guys, but Cloud and friends kill hundreds just like them on the regular. On top of that you basically trick them into slaughtering...

I personally don't see much of a difference between CC Zack and Rebirth Zack. It's the same guy for all intents and purposes. The only difference is, we're seeing a slightly different side of him - he is interacting with normal people in Rebirth and not the freaks at Soldier/Shinra. His sole...

ZA reunion scene is basically required at this point. Not for LTD necessarily but as a culmination of Zack's entire character arc in Rebirth. He's been carrying the torch alone, so to speak, and if they want to wrap his story up in a satisfying way, this is the only way. And now they've added...

It's never explored, I don't think. But I would hesitate to automatically assume she would. Just smacks of main character syndrome to me. Maybe I'm biased, but not every girl has to automatically be in love with the MC, imo. It's good they gave Aerith an "out" so to speak (she sees Zack's...

Maiden is held dear because it murders Zack as a character irrespective of what it says about Cloti. Even now, one of the major arguments CAs bring up against Zack is that he's a "womanizer". The Aerith scene in Rebirth with the Fairs in Gongaga is used to support this. Context? What's that...

Yes, agree completely Squall and Rinoa are exactly what CAs are looking for. That soldier Cloud personality is Squall to a tee and Rinoa is basically Aerith with Tifa's looks. Not to mention the plot.

It's especially funny because ZA is exactly the star-crossed lover romance so many CAs are looking for, in their own words. Probably harder to self insert as Zack than Cloud end of the day with some of them. The way some of them want Cloud to jump across worlds looking for Aerith is telling, oh...