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I won't wade into Cloti because it doesn't need defending. They are for all intents and purposes the only truly confirmed pair in FF7 retrilogy at this point in time. I feel it is truly pointless to even debate the canonicity of this pair. Regarding there being no setup for Zack. All I will say...

I personally don't understand the point of splitting hairs over how romantic Aerith's feelings towards Cloud are/were. Wanting to find the real Cloud and actually finding him are very different things and she never succeeds in the latter, not even on the dream date. Some iteration of her in the...

I can't for the life of me figure out why CAs would be happy with Aerith's GS date. It is not very flattering for Cloud, tbh, with how it begins. The whole thing just seems like Aerith trying to convince herself she's ready to move on when she's not. I'm going by the english version but you...

For a ZA reunion, I just want a mutual and unambiguous affirmation of romantic feelings whether through words or actions or both. We already know what Zack feels. The question is Aerith. It would be a nice mirror if she repeats her like and like like dialogue but this time with emphasis on...

There is no narrative purpose as it doesn't make any sense. It shouldnt happen. I'm just saying it can't be ruled out they will cement Cloti but offer up Zerith as an ambiguous bone for hardcore Cleriths. I'm just prepared to cut my losses as a Zack fan, is all. LTD makes money after all...

There is a four letter word hardcore Cleriths dance around (or gleefully bandy about) for this situation and it begins with a C. This is essentially what they want for Zack, all said and done. My opinion is if Aerith still wants to have unresolved or conflicted romantic feelings about Cloud in...

This is what I hope they will do as well. They can recontextualize the lifestream in this way and still setup for AC with minimal changes.

As a fellow Zackbro, I only understand your doubts too well. I myself still vacillate between dooming and hope on a near daily basis. I almost tossed my controller when Marlene spouted her crap, lol. But more than anything, the sheer certainty of hardcore Cleriths always makes me think I am...

Personally never got the feeling the dream date was about Cloud specifically, it was about Aerith and her feelings no matter what level of interpretation you're going for. Aside from the purpose of giving Cloud the materia, this was all about what Aerith feels regarding her romantic feelings...

https://x.com/ShinraArch/status/1782061738323583290 I uh think this tweet from a few days ago is particularly relevant to the discussion of discrepancies within the Compilation regarding any conflicted feelings the characters have. They are basically on a warpath and are putting everyone on...

Yes, I cannot think of a worse move than re-releasing Crisis Core and calling it "Reunion" if the intent was to show she moved on from Zack and CA is the direction in Rebirth. They clearly wanted people to familiarize themselves with Zack, his story, and what makes him tick, i.e. flower girl.

Ehh I've always found the CA insistence that Zack can be bumped off by Marlene quite funny, sounds like a lot of copium. I think it just speaks to how dearly they wish CC and the Compilation were never a thing and he was still a "minor" plot device. Unfortunately for hardcore CAs, Zack is not...

I was talking more along the lines of explicit harem romcoms like Highschool DxD, Toradora etc (honestly I have almost zero experience in this genre so could totally be off-base). Shonen I've consumed almost all my life so I definitely know the childhood friend wins often here (Yusuke and Edward...

Honestly, I've been seeing a pattern where Cleriths try to equate the ships with romcom harem anime tropes. In this reading, Tifa is the childhood friend and so she must lose by default because that's what happens in these anime. Aerith is the transfer student and she has enraptured the stoic...

Well yes, I agree completely. Zerith is endgame. But it can be tainted as well. They were skirting the line in Rebirth. OmniAerith is just baffling to me in general. She can bring in Cloud to her dream world, physically hand him the white materia to take back, go on a date, and then push him...

This. 100% this. This is why omni-Aerith disturbs me. Her behavior is inexplicable. Presumably, she's been orchestrating everything behind the scenes. How can she not know and why doesn't she care what's happening with Zack. Why the date with Cloud? Maybe Rebirth Aerith is unique somehow and it...

I hope Nojima's stated aim of leaving little up to interpretation holds true for ZA as much as it seems to for CT. Reason I say this is because I see rehashing Maiden is now back in vogue on Twitter. Zack is apparently a sidepiece and is not worthy of Aerith who deserves the main character...

Thanks for your response. I totally understand where you're coming from in regards to Advent Children. Cloud's behavior in that movie is questionable towards Tifa and the kids, at best, I agree. It didn't do anything to make me like Cloud, tbh, although he is much better in remake. But I suppose...

I totally agree but personally can't shake off a nasty suspicion Square Enix is addicted to using Zack as a punching bag at this point. I am not discounting the possibility that they will use him as a sacrificial lamb to appease hardcore Cleriths. I wish they'd make it clearer so I could cut...

Hard to escape the feeling Zack is merely a plaything in this game. This is all sounding very much like CAs having their fantasies being confirmed. I will hold judgement until the last game, but I am no longer optimistic where this is going for Zack. Man was better off dead and buried. At...