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  1. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I think Tifa was scared of Cloud's response, which is why she A. waited to ask him while he was asleep, and B. she quickly changed the question to Marlene. It's not just Cloud's lack of response that is troubling, it's the fact that Tifa has to ask the question in the first place. Trying to...
  2. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Translate this image for yourself, if you must: The translation I use is from Saeki of the CxA forums: Since a lot of the translation from TLS come from Cloti's, there is no shame (IMO) in getting my translation from someone of the CxA forums. Saeki believes that Nomura is contrasting...
  3. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I think Tifa was giving Cloud an out so he didn't have to answer her question and so she didn't have to face the harsh reality that Cloud doesn't love her. Why is Tifa insecure? Well, you can argue that she's naturally insecure. But you can also point out that their relationship wasn't going...
  4. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I'd say Cloud not answering her question because he doesn't have an answer is more plausible than assuming he didn't hear her question. Why would SE include this scene to simply show us that Cloud didn't hear Tifa? This scene was obviously included to tell us that their relationship is in...
  5. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    "She was surprised at the great sorrow he had for her. She was a little happy that he thought so much of her but she also felt the pain that was many times greater." ~The Maiden who Travels the Planet "Cloud searched for the right words. 'I didn't fix the problem. I don't think I'll ever fix...
  6. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    That's completely irrelevant because Nomura's quote is addressing the 2 years after Final Fantasy VII ended, not Advent Children. The truth of Cloud and Tifa's relationship during the 2 years after FFVII was extremely complicated and unclear. However, by Advent Children, the truth of their...
  7. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1qhVKAHVlI You guys will love this video ;) *still working on my response*
  8. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Thanks Quexinos for calling a spade a spade. Been very sidetracked with Easter and such, but should have my response ready within the next couple of days -- working on it now.
  9. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    In the original quote Nomura says he was "frequently asked" by fans about the nature of Cloud and Tifa's relationship. To me, this suggests he was faced with a constant barrage of questions regarding Cloud and Tifa's relationship. Therefore, his answer tells us he either "doesn't know" or...
  10. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    You can disagree with the essay, but don't call it 'outdated'. The essay specifically addresses the changes made in ACC. Furthermore, AC/ACC wasn't the primary focus of the essay. Also, I'd like to mention that SE felt compelled to make "Calling" in the first place. Therefore, I still think it...
  11. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Evidence That Cloud Still Loves Aerith by Alantie Life and death. This was the theme behind Final Fantasy VII when it was first released in game format. However, when the game ended, there was much confusion on several sides as to the possibilities for the future, especially when it came to the...
  12. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    The fact that Nomura doesn't say anything definitively about their relationship suggests to me that there isn't a definitive answer, otherwise he'd tell us the answer to put an end to the constant barrage of fans inquiring about it. Therefore, by Nomura not giving us a definitive answer, it...
  13. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    IF we accept your translation, it implies that Cloud and Tifa's relationship is unimportant to Nomura. To me, this seems odd if they are intended to be the official canon couple of Final Fantasy VII. Would he act the same way if the topic revolved around another Final Fantasy couple? Probably...
  14. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    That's only if your translation is the correct one. Regardless of which translation is correct, I still find it it very telling that when Nomura was asked point blank about Cloud and Tifa's relationship, he said that he either doesn't have a clue or that he simply doesn't care. If AC is the...
  15. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I can see this thread is only going to get uglier. Granted, I'm not completely innocent but when you're outnumbered, it's never fun. Just might be my time to exit yet again :excited: :moar:
  16. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    We will have to agree to disagree about the translation. Neither one of us can say for certain what the official translation is because there isn't one. But in both translations, Nomura did NOT confirm that a relationship exists between Cloud and Tifa after FFVII ends. That, by itself, speaks...
  17. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I provided two sources where I base my translation from. It's as if you think you are the Supreme Court of the LTD and whatever you say should be accepted as fact. News Flash: just because you believe the quote is translated differently doesn't make your translation more valid than mine. It...
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