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  1. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Here is a recap of what you said is opinion and spin. I included a works cited: Aerith was, afterall, the only character Cloud cried and laughed for (A). Cloud agrees to be Aerith’s bodyguard for the price of one date (B), telling Marlene he hopes Aerith likes him (C), two *canon* dates...
  2. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    The translation I've seen is that Nomura doesn't have "any clue" if Cloud and Tifa are in a romantic relationship after FFVII ends. This means the HAHW scene does not necessarily lead to a romantic relationship between Cloud and Tifa. If Nomura doesn't know, fans shouldn't pretend they know...
  3. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    If you are referring to Nomura's "truth" quote, we have no idea what the "truth" of Cloud and Tifa's relationship is. The truth of their relationship, IMO, is up to interpretation. “For example, I was frequently asked if there had been romantic relationship between Tifa and Cloud for two...
  4. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Out of my long post, I can't believe this is what is being focused on. But anyway -- my point is that many make the argument that Cloud and Tifa having issues makes them a more believable couple. But this argument has to work both ways. The fact that they never had a honeymoon phase makes them...
  5. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Without evidence that clearly establishes they are a romantic couple to begin with, I don't really see the point in arguing about this for very long. But I'll bite. Of course couples fight. I've had plenty of experience with this. But the relationship I see between Cloud and Tifa is almost...
  6. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Now, I just want to say that I do believe the LTD is up to interpretation. I've already provided the quote where Nomura talks about how everyone is free to interpret SE's work differently. I'm simply explaining why my interpretation is Cloud x Aerith. And yes, some of the evidence in favor of...
  7. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I was referring to either of them being the top backup cheerleader, not King. And you, my friend, probably wouldn't even make the team because all you do is troll and insult. Anyway -- hopefully I can get around to replying to everyone else's posts soon ^_^
  8. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    That spot has already been reserved for Vendel or Ryu Sorry... :(
  9. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    And now the backup cheerleaders come rushing to their King's defense.
  10. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    How does Pinnochio prove it wrong? Pinnochio has no love interest, so they show him coming together with Geppetto. But for virtually everyone who has a love interest, they show the two love interests reuniting at the end of the game. Yes, Nomura was being vague with his comments because this...
  11. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Also -- The HAHW scene already existed when Nomura made his statement about having no clue if Cloud and Tifa were in a romantic relationship after FFVII ends. This means that the HAHW scene is not proof that Cloud and Tifa are canon since the HAHW already existed when Nomura made his statement...
  12. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    To me, it IS laughable. But to Nomura, you are free to interpret everything however you want. If you look honestly at Nomura's quote where he says some questions about Cloud and Aerith's relationship in Final Fantasy VII might be answered through the ending of Kingdom Hearts, it is very...
  13. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    I believe Cloud has love for both Aerith and Tifa. But it is up to us to decide who he loves romantically and who he loves platonically. My interpretation is that Cloud has romantic feelings for Aerith and platonic feelings for Tifa. It is also *possible* Cloud has romantic feelings for both...
  14. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    And the truth of their relationship is clearly up to interpretation. ”Advent Children is a piece of work made by Japanese people. In Hollywood movies, I think there is a tendency where the meaning of all the scenes have to be expressed clearly but, this isn’t something like that...
  15. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Nomura specifically says, "...if you play Kingdom Hearts, toward the end, some of the questions about the relationship between Cloud and Aeris in Final Fantasy VII might be answered." Nomura is saying that even though the universe of Kingdom Hearts and the universe of FFVII are separate, the...
  16. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Nomura said he hasn't a clue if Cloud and Tifa are in a relationship after the game ends. Therefore, a romantic relationship does not necessarily develop from the HAHW scene. If Nomura doesn't know, fans shouldn't pretend they know either. Furthermore, nothing in AC contradicts his quote. No...
  17. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    It doesn't matter how old his quote is. Nothing in Advent Children contradicts his quote. None of his new quotes contradict his old quote. Absolutely nothing SE has shown us contradict his quote. Trying to discredit his quote simply because it's "old" is a weak attempt to try and dismiss...
  18. BlankBeat

    The Love Triangle Debate thread of KNEEL BEFORE ZOD OR SUFFER HIS WRATH (ignore the opening posts at your peril) (Round 6)

    Trying to harass me into answering an irrelevant question seems to be your obsession. Sadly, I'm not surprised to see that you responded to me within only a few seconds of my last post. Yes, Denzel and Marlene don't have obvious 'sins'. And in the quote Tifa says the family of friends she...
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