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Even if the HAHW scene occurs, Nomura has no idea if Cloud and Tifa develop a romantic relationship after the game ends. This means that EVEN IF the HAHW scene occurs, a romantic relationship does not necessarily develop from it. If Nomura has no idea if a romantic relationship develops after...

Thanks for your post Maidenofwar. I'd just like to say that FFIX is a reference to Cloud x Aerith NOT Zack x Aerith. Not only is Cloud clearly referenced with the line, "He's handsome, but he's not exactly Mr. Personality...", but when Aerith is first introduced to Cloud in FFVII she is known...

I simply use it as evidence that SE intended to portray Cloud and Aerith as being romantically involved in Final Fantasy VII. Also -- they don't call it Final Fantasy for nothing. Given the spiritual connection Cloud and Aerith share, and the concept of the Promised Land, it is clear that a...

Additionally... I don't think that funerals or burials are romantic. I simply think the way in which SE created the cut-scene shows (based on all things considered) an intimate burial that specifically focuses on Cloud laying Aerith to rest. Sure, Cloud is the main character and he blames...

The date in the park is an intimate moment shared between Cloud and Aerith. It is when they begin to get to know each other on a deeper level. Maybe SE believes it is a date because the attraction between Cloud and Aerith is supposed to be obvious? Regardless -- SE refers to it as a date, so...

You are free interpret the ending of Dissidia as a platonic connection between Cloud and Aerith. Imagery is always ambiguous. But what is not ambiguous is that flowers represent Aerith (official quotes and common sense prove this), and flower fields represent a spiritual connection between Cloud...

It might not prove what is or is not "canon" per-say, but I think it can help us understand SE's intent and give us clues. It appears (to me) that SE is showing us romantic cameos of Cloud x Aerith, which suggests that all of the in-game Clerith moments are probably romantic in nature. SE is...

It is a fact that flowers represent Aerith (especially yellow and white ones). Cloud and Aerith are repeatedly shown connecting with each other through flower fields. In Dissidia, Cloud states he has a desire to meet "someone". Cloud also states he wants to meet Aerith in the Promised Land...

I'll start off by pointing this out: Nomura: "With Aerith, 'flowers' have been her image throughout the series." Nomura said in the Reunion Files that, “…we filmed the video for the ending credits in Hawaii. There are fields of flowers on both sides of the road, and the colors -...

Don't forget Cloud searching for the Promised Land in FF Tactics and running into a Flower Girl during his quest. In addition, Ramza uses the "HOLY" stone to summon Cloud. So let's recap: Cloud is searching for the Promised Land (exactly what he said he would do at the end of FFVII so he could...

Yes, you are correct: "Cait Sith’s lines which predict Cloud and Aerith’s wedding now becomes more painful.” ~Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega “Later, it will become a sad prediction when we get to know what happens afterward.” ~Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega...

Every "rebuttal" to my posts has also been responded to numerous times by Clerith's. I've heard all of your "rebuttals" before and they are completely and utterly incorrect (IMO). Do I have the time to respond to multiple posts and engage in a debate where it's 1 person versus 10? No, I don't...

If you are sick of this debate and can't stop yourself from being rude, don't come to this thread. I have not insulted anyone. I have not mocked anyone. Yet numerous people here have been sarcastic and condescending towards me. No wonder TLS has the reputation it does and Clerith's don't want...

My response still stands: If the context of the FTOIL page was discussing default versions to variable scenes, the TLS article claiming the LTD is over would make sense. But I see no reason to think the HAHW scene is canon just because a page discussing love includes the romantic version of a...

Yes, it is obvious TO ME that SE did those things on purpose to show C/A. They have also done things to show C/T. Thus the inherent nature of a love triangle where a hero wavers between two heroines. I have no problem admitting that there is valid Cloti evidence. Why do you have a problem...

It isn't doublethink. I think the LTD is up to interpretation, and I'm pointing out why my interpretation is Clerith.

I'd just like to say real quickly -- much as been made of the fact that the majority of Clerith evidence I pointed out happens when Cloud is not his "true" self. I find this a convenient way for Cloti's to dismiss the majority of Clerith evidence. Why do I feel this way? Because if all of...

LOL -- I have two usernames I tend to go by DansantCaparet and BlankBeat. What a big discovery you've uncovered...!!! PS: I'm constructing a response to everyone as we speak. :excited:

Just thought I'd stop by since this thread is still technically available to both Cloti and Clerith shippers. And yes, I know everyone will post long rebuttals to what I have to say...but I thought I'd give you guys some food for thought: 1. If the context of the FTOIL page was discussing...

I don't have to time to respond to all of your points, but I'd like to respond to this. Oh and Ryu, I'll hopefully get to yours at some point this week. It makes sense that they expressed mutual feelings of companionship because they were on the brink of the final battle with Sephiroth. This...