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That's precisely my point, because if Cloud loved Aerith, by the time we get to the highwind scene it's quite clear he's moved on to Tifa (or should I say moved back to Tifa lol). It's part of the reason why I'm not particularly fond of the idea that "Cloud loved both girls."

I'm just so tired of the LTD at this point I'm finding it hard to care about either pairing. What doesn't sit well with me about "Cloud developing romantic feelings for Aerith and Tifa" is the fact that the story of ff7 happens within the span of 40 days. If Cloud loved Aerith--which is totally...

"plot-induced stupidity" is a great way to describe it. Like, losing to Cloud once or twice due to your gigantic planet-sized ego makes sense. But three times? Really? Three times in a row?? My man Sephiroth's got some serious introspection to do while he's floating around in the lifestream...

This. The LTD really paints Cloud in a not so favorable light. It adds very little to his characterization. People dislike the LTD not solely for shipping reasons. It's damaging to the characters and the story.

Fair point. What I struggle with is the fact that: a) the devs are obviously aware of the LTD being the source of a lot of toxicity among their fanbase, b) they have the power to stop this toxicity but they don't, and c) quite the contrary, they actively fuel the dumpster fire that is the LTD...

Kitase apparently said in an old interview it was refreshing to have a character like Cloud who "wavered between two girls." Like??? The ff7 shipping discourse is nuts but in all honesty I don't think the fans are the only ones to blame. The devs obviously contribute to it.