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I think it's important to note that it's gotten to the point that content creators would rather dodge the topic entirely for fear of backlash. The LTD and the people who have been arguing about it for years have given the game a bad rep in some ways. I mean, Cloud and Tifa's relationship is a...

Yes, but there's also the whole thing through the characters. I get that the whole thing is supposed to fool people and subvert expectations, but I think it results in odd characterisations. smh lmao

That's something else with the song, for a song written entirely by a character in-universe, it feels oddly aware of things Aerith shouldn't be aware of (I think?) Not necessarily that I think it's a subtle dig at Tifa, because it couldn't be, of course. But that's part of the reason why I...

As Maiden said, even though Cloti and Zerith's positions are more or less safe for part 3, CA is still kinda getting recognition, so assuming they stick to their words, what exactly is the end goal here. World's biggest troll? Even if part 3 does give a solid conclusion the whole fiasco...

I know it's redundant, and I've said it a million times before, but it's relevant to often, and it is here again -What should happen and what is actually going to happen are different things. People here are saying that the LS is a romantic, intimate scene between Cloud and Tifa almost...

So, I'm pretty sure that's not entirely accurate. What Claudia says is "like an older sister" (chotto onee-san, I think). I think it's the same in the jp version of the original? can't really confirm that though. I don't want to be that guy, but from what I've heard, obviously cannot confirm...

People arguing this scene in bad faith against Tifa only tells me that said person is a massive dumbass. If Tifa really didn't care about Cloud, or straight up didn't like him, she would just leave him do what he wanted to; rot away. Just take someone who's your friend, for example. Anybody who...

Sorry for any misunderstanding, I should have clarified that I'm talking about people who claim Clerith to be endgame as the compilation is right now.

Of course there are annoying people on both sides, I'm just saying that, at the most basic level, advocating for Clerith being endgame requires either a disliking for or a severe misunderstanding of Tifa, while Cloti does not for Aerith. This is why it might seem like there are more Tifa haters...

I think that Cleriths appear to hate Tifa more than Clotis appear to hate Aerith because claiming Clerith as endgame necessitates grossly mischaracterising Tifa while Cloti does not have to do the same for Aerith. Claiming Clerith as endgame necessitates: -Making Tifa out to be an oblivious...

Might as well share as well: I loved playing Cloud in Smash Ultimate (and still do), and then when Sora was announced for that game, I decided I would play Kingdom Hearts, and Cloud was in it. Contemplated buying the Remake but saw it wasn't turn based, which at the time turned me off rpgs...

It's a sunk cost thing. 30 odd years of arguing makes it hard to admit you weren't right.

I think, as of the original compilation, "both girls" was a plausible read of the story. This is why when you google the topic, a metric ton of bad, disingenuous takes show up. I don't think it'll ever go away, honestly. But at the very least, part 3 will make a lot of us feel vindicated...

I'll go a step further and say people don't like to equate Tifa to Aerith because of antiquated views on how each of them dress. Nah, they've fed the "both sides" argument too much over the years, intentional or not. The "Cloud loves both girls" view will never dissappear from a casual...

"The real LTD was the friends we made along the way"

Y'know, the wording of this has reminded me of a really funny, really true twitter post that I think of 24/7 on ff7twt. "Cleriths just wholesale deny canon parts of the story. You could say Cloud and Tifa had sex under the airship and they'd be like 'you idiot! FF7 doesn't HAVE an airship'"...

Much like Tifa and her decision to put Cloud before herself in Mideel, that she is rewarded for this. I have no doubt Zack will be the same. uuuuuuh...they weren't any of mine were they? It just shows they don't believe what they're saying. How do you know a Clerith is lying? Their lips are...

1. I'm talking about the "but I'm...we're here for you, right?" as well. Not just Gongaga. 2. That moment isn't a cloti moment that clotis flock to as the jealous one is a Clerith moment that people actually did give attention and care about. 3. I highly doubt there was zero thought at all put...

Both moments being more or less removed (as a clerith thing) means that they were moments the devs took notice of, and decided to change it. For what reason, I couldn't tell you, but it must have been on their radar to have them put in the effort to change it instead of just pasting it from...