FFVII re-release for PS4

^Oh wait you're right, I had forgotten about that one. Surely not? But then again, this is them. And they just did this.

There is still Jump Festa, I suppose.

Anyway, shouldn't this be in the news section? : p

For a minute and 50 seconds there, I legitimately thought that SE had been working on a VII remake and keeping it hush hush and under the wraps for the past few years so that they can reveal a complete PS4 remake as a surprise.

1 second later, I realized it wasn't the case.




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This pretty much confirms that they're not gonna remake it, ever, right?

I feel like an asshole. I've been rofl-ing pretty epically over this. Not at anyone's disappointment, mind you. Just at the fact that they did this.

Either Square Enix planned this, in which case they’re pretty much the most successful trolls in the history of the internet, or they didn’t plan it, in which case it’s pretty much the definition of an epic fail. Either way, it is kind of funny.

I just find it so funny how Hashimoto is all excitedly yelling and stuff even though the announcement was at best worthy of a casual press release.

Tetsujin said:

Uh yeah, this ain't gonna be worth it.

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that is what i wanted to say

i had Hopes for a little bit, until i saw the video. and it was just the same version we've already had. that they just rereleased relatively recently. that totally isn't worthy of being some ps4 exclusive (if that's the case).

bundle it with a type-0 style hd version of crisis core, dirge of cerberus, and throw in advent children complete, make a 'compilation of ffvii' collection out of it and maybe i will get interested

but i'm just not capable of getting hyped up about another version of the same ffvii just on another platform

although have you see that 'classic ps1' model ps4, i want the hell out of that

And so
The magestic Final Fantasy VII Unicorn
Pegs the World once again.



To be fair, any FFVII announcement outside of private screening or TGS should be held to a high level of scrutiny. There's no way SE would be cool enough to make *1* announcement.

It would be announcements for announcements the likes of which the world has never seen.

*this whole situation and everybody's reactions to it*





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There are a handful of Square reps here, in the forums. We need to do something to them. Like sign them up for spam mail or something. That'll teach them!

Oh, regarding PS4 exclusivity. It's much easier to port a PC game to a PS4 then it is, to a PS3. Not sure about he Vita though.

17 years later and the game is still being re-released! This has to further solidify FF7 as one of the best RPG games of all time.

dazibit said:

17 years later and the game is still being re-released! This has to further solidify FF7 as one of the best RPG games of all time.

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To be fair, some of the classics have been getting far more re-releases. FF1 in particular I'm pretty sure is pretty much on anything ever now.

^Yeah how many versions of FFI are there? NES, Origins, GBA, PSP, iOS, 3DS. According to Wikipedia, the Wonderswan Colour, MSX2, Windows Phone and Android aswell. And those aren't re-releases of the original (aside from Origins obvs, which was bundled with FFII).

FFVII on the other hand really only has two and aside from some grammar fixes, font and music changes they're exactly the same. People sometimes forget that some of the more glaring errors in grammar are fixed in the '98 PC version ("beacause", "this guy are sick", etc.) and there are some lines of dialogue which have been completely changed when compared to the PS version. Inexplicably "Off course" is still there though.

Anyway, expecting a retranslation is probably too much to ask. A fan one already exists (that I actually did some Scottish dialect for, some of you might remember) but they wouldn't use that.

Are they going to redraw the backgrounds? Doubtful. They might run them all through a filter as fans have also done, but this would be expecting too much of them again because fans had made the original 98 release look a thousand times better on PC about 6 years before they re-released the PC version on Steam or the SE store, and they still had shitty backgrounds. In fact, by the time that re-release came out fans had modded about every moddable aspect of the game, and there are hundreds of tools to mod everything yourself, if you're so inclined. The only thing SE actually used from the modding community was a graphics driver made by someone in the community. All they did was shove it in the .exe with some adjustments so the game would run on modern systems. They also put in higher res character models.

So really the only thing we an expect/ hope for is that they don't use the PC's original MIDI music. The PC re-releases didn't even bother to update this but a patch has since been put on Steam with the original PS music, so here's hoping they go with that. That and trophy support. Anything beyond that (redrawing backgrounds, getting rid of black bars) would surprise me.

Don't worry Tres, I got your back
At the very least in addition to what Lex they could add HD/WS compatability, and maybe even skip scene, for skipping fmvs and things on a replay, skipping Kalm flashback oh yes. This is probably asking too much but I would also like the ability to change the on field character and being able to remove Cloud from the active battle team (Aerith/Tifa/Yuffie aww yis), and maybe even a NG+/difficulty feature where you could carry stuffs over and get an OP Aerith from early or something or could carry stuffs over but have a difficulty setting to balance it

People be like give us more FFVII, more FFVII, giiive us it! Square be like uh but ... but you ... and people be like oh yeah! that's right! don't you change anything, don't you dare! and Square be like yikes wat do, uhh how about this and fans be like

Lex said:

FFVII on the other hand really only has two and aside from some grammar fixes, font and music changes they're exactly the same. People sometimes forget that some of the more glaring errors in grammar are fixed in the '98 PC version ("beacause", "this guy are sick", etc.) and there are some lines of dialogue which have been completely changed when compared to the PS version. Inexplicably "Off course" is still there though.

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Although I only have a snapshot from the PC2012 version, I distinctly recall that "Off Course" had been changed to "Of Course" in the PC98 version.

This FFVII re-release for the PS4 is only of interest to me if there are any version differences, even if the only differences lay in the trophies. But even then I will not buy a PS4 solely to get FFVII. By the time I'm willing to get a PS4, they will probably have a PS4 Slim out and a mildly attractive game library going on.

Shademp said:

Although I only have a snapshot from the PC2012 version, I distinctly recall that "Off Course" had been changed to "Of Course" in the PC98 version.

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Did they leave 'No, way!' ?

As you can tell...no. They fixed 'No, way'.

The PC version is BETRAYAL!

Well whoops, my error. I know there's a big one still in there that I haven't mentioned though because I noticed it in my last playthrough. I'll have to play through it again to figure out what it is.

It's a shame, because playing the upscaled version on PS4 with trophies and such sounds like a lot of fun. And if they had just said in a playstation blog, "hey, the PC FF7 is ported to the store in the next update" we all would've said, "Oh, neat." Now since they made such a huge deal, I feel like a fool for wanting it.

Lex said:

And those aren't re-releases of the original (aside from Origins obvs, which was bundled with FFII).

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Origins doesn't look the same as it did on NES if that's what you are implying. I can't tell you all the differences because I don't know much about the WSC and MSX versions, but other than the complete graphical overhaul, the soundtrack was improved, new FMVs, at very least Chaos had his HP increased, and there were other changes too. "Normal mode" represents the original version although Sprint and Memo capabilities are there (which are in both modes), and Easy Mode makes a number of tweaks which I believe means less EXP needed to level up and prices of items are cheaper.

Lex said:

So really the only thing we an expect/ hope for is that they don't use the PC's original MIDI music. The PC re-releases didn't even bother to update this[...]

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They patched the 2012 release.

"Off course" being corrected was pointed out, but there are still plenty of errors. One of the more memorable ones from battle is "{char name} was caught by surprise" with Sneak Attack when in fact the enemy is caught by surprise. (In the PS version it said "cought by surprise"). There is the whole "Doesn't it feel like we're missing something?", something Cloud remarks when the cannon is no longer in Junon (I suspect it would be more accurately ("like something's missing"), "Lower Junon" and "Upper Junon" are still there when these terms refer to the left-side and right-side of Junon (if you remember the name "Aljunon", more accurately you might say it would be "Ar Junon", or "R-Junon").

And they added other ones like "Corel Valley" (which was also wrong in the PS version, just a different kind of wrong).

PC2012 made some translation corrections but nothing significant. Most notably the horrific naming of the Greens when purchasing them in the Chocobo Farm.

The PC version actually made graphical changes, adding mouths to the characters. Obviously this turned out terrible because everyone besides the player characters are always shocked.

For PC2012 they used a better shader for models, which definitely looks better in the field, but in the World Map it just makes everything look darker.

Anyway, I don't mind that they release the same game on PS4, and I don't really expect them to improve them much. At most I imagine they'll do some non-pixelated upscale of the field backgrounds. The only thing I find is odd is the scale of the announcement of releasing a game available on PS3 and PC already.

One thing that is great about this is the FFVII and Sony PS coverage in general going on rn. FFVII on PS4, the 20th anniversary thing with Aerith and Lightning on the background, FFVII G-Bike, Square has just released a new Final Fantasy magazine in Japan as well, feature G-Bike/Cloud on the cover, something about Aerith was also mentioned on twitter in relation to that as well. In addition FF Brigade has been updated with the Christmas features for this year as well, Terra and Yuffie are reindeer, Yuna is Santa, and Aerith gets not just one but two Christmas outfits, one with blue and white, like ice and snow, with snowflakes where she is also carrying Yuna's staff for some reason, also of course KH stuffs floating around as well and the FF characters in that So it's not all bad

I prefer the original PSX version.

JBedford128 said:

For PC2012 they used a better shader for models, which definitely looks better in the field, but in the World Map it just makes everything look darker

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Isn't this because Aali's driver is designed to work with custom modded high-res world map textures though? Anything shader-wise is down to them using his driver.

Selphie Tilmitt said:

One thing that is great about this is the FFVII and Sony PS coverage in general going on rn. FFVII on PS4, the 20th anniversary thing with Aerith and Lightning on the background, FFVII G-Bike, Square has just released a new Final Fantasy magazine in Japan as well, feature G-Bike/Cloud on the cover, something about Aerith was also mentioned on twitter in relation to that as well. In addition FF Brigade has been updated with the Christmas features for this year as well, Terra and Yuffie are reindeer, Yuna is Santa, and Aerith gets not just one but two Christmas outfits, one with blue and white, like ice and snow, with snowflakes where she is also carrying Yuna's staff for some reason, also of course KH stuffs floating around as well and the FF characters in that So it's not all bad

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Could you maybe make a thread and get screenies of all of this so we can cover it?

Trainer Red said:

This pretty much confirms that they're not gonna remake it, ever, right?

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I think they'll have to, eventually. I mean, how long can they remake every other game around it and avoid that one?

Maybe this trolling was to see how excited everyone would get if they did announce a remake.